Posted on 08/06/2009 8:19:06 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
Will 'Better Science Education' Convince Americans They Came from Fish?
A recent poll revealed that many Americans believe public school students should be taught all sides of Darwin’s theory of evolution, its weaknesses as well as its strengths.[1] Evolutionists, in the face of this data, reason that if only the American public had more “education” on evolution, the poll numbers would reflect in their favor...
(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...
It was a secular college biology-chem class that turned me into a creationist.
It’s a proven fact that Democrats came from sucker fish and bottom feeders.
I would be happy if they would just teach them what the scientific method is, and the difference between a theory and and an article of faith.
Ping!
They haven’t convinced us yet. Maybe they should stop trying and just teach the parts of a cell, how to diagram molecules, and the formulas for echolocation.
BAAWWWAHHHHHHH....thanks for the laugh....and TRUTH.
There’s a thought!
Only problem, Creationist haven't found a real weakness yet
And no, "I can't/won't understand how xxx evolved, therefore it must be Jesus" is not real weakness in the theory of evolution, nor is misunderstanding the meaning of the word "theory" or some other scientific law like the 2nd law of thermodynamics, and neither is linking something bad in the past to evolution any kind of weakness.
I won’t be able to read it for a couple of hours, but I’d love to hear more about the details of your turnabout from evolution to creation...in a secular college class, no less!
You’re all actually descended from amphibians and *I* am your Queen!
Kneel before Newt!
Sucker fish and bottom feeders serve a useful purpose in the natural order.
I’m sure you meant “devolved”...:)
Keep ‘em coming...you’ll bump those poll numbers yet, keep humpin’ camel!
It was simple. It was merely a lesson on the cell wall that got me thinking then the Krebs Cycle clinched it.
It was a Bible College biology class that turned me into a Darwinist.
You’ve given me a tough one to contemplate. Did the Democrats evolve from the sucker fish and bottom feeders, or did they devolve from them? My head hurts now.
So you never know!
You obviously haven’t read that book.
They devolved.
Self-respecting bottom feeders and sucker fish have summarily disowned them.
You don't have to read even one book. There are people who will read it for you and explain what it says.
Thank you for calling this meeting of the Catholic-Hating Literalist Luddite Society of FR to order. Roll call, please...
So, basically, it was “this stuff is too hard to understand, so I’ll just say A Wizard Did It”.
“Better Science Education” = more government control of schools and curriculum.
Hmmm,... that is kind of hard to argue with....
Better science education would teach people that’s not what evolution says.
Will better science classes convince them burning bushes talk, that the Noah’s Ark story was possible, or that water can be turned into wine?
Still trying to cause dissension on FR, I see. And this is an intelligent comment and addresses the content of the thread how again?
And this is an intelligent comment and addresses the content of the thread how again?
I wasn’t aware that Christianity - or, for that matter, the Tao, the Buddha, the Hindus, or some shaman in a hut in Siberia - was focused on scientific inquiry.
Science merely describes the universe as it is. Religion tells us what it means. If it takes God eons of atomic restructuring, trillions of stars, and several billion years of constant changes among living creates to emerge with a being in His image - why not? Certainly the creation outlined by scientific inquiry is far more intense and Godlike than the week-long creation described in Genesis.
On the other hand, since I’m also a believer in liberty and freedom, go ahead and teach your kids that the Grand Canyon was formed by the receding waters in Noah’s flood. Please extend your tolerance toward my kids, who will not only be taught Scripture, but also Aristotle, Newton, Einstein, Hawking, and others who have explored God’s creation.
Science and religion are not the same thing. They’re different ways of looking at the universe. When they’re in conflict, something is wrong with the way we’re looking at it.
And this is an intelligent comment and addresses the content of the thread how again?
It supports the thesis of the thread — “Teach The Controversy” between the alternative opinions “Fossils are evidence of the evolutionary record” and “Fossils are tricks planted by Satan”. Duh.
Darwinism has been the prevailing orthodoxy in schooling for decades. If Darwinism is the essential element of “good science education,” then why are American students’ results so poor compared to the rest of the world’s?
(My theory is that neither the teachers nor the students can do math.)
Oh, I understood it. I got an A in that class.
Abe Vigoda?
A revival of the Fish to Gish theory, eh?
A link to an article on the poll addressed in this thread, for any who actually want to discuss it. There are some very interesting results in the poll.
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=50607
Actually, scientific inquiry had its basis in Christianity. Check out what Issac Newton had to say about it.
You’re a ‘poll-dancer’ now? How quaint.
The laughable excrement from the ICR does, however, continue to entertain.
"...the Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture, an intelligent design think tank...". Intelligent design think tank? Talk about an oxymoron. Why don't they call it what it is - a bunch of people lying for Jesus.
"The presence of only minor variations in colors and sizes among living creatures of the same kind...". Like these? (Note the minor variations between these two of the same "kind".)
And of course there's new twist on the old "came from monkeys" straw-man: "showing the public how laboratory science is done, and then saying it is equivalent to the secular philosophy that states humans came from fish."
Come on - show a little honesty.
No, it doesn’t. You clearly didn’t read the article from ICR or the poll results.
They didn’t say anything about what evos call the *Teach the Controversy* creationism. The article strictly deals with teaching it from a *scientific* viewpoint.
Not at all. Just trying to generate a discussion around true motivations. Surely you believe that Catholics are Christians, don’t you?
Oh, and with regard to relevance to the topic, my post is at least as relevant as post #3, don’t you agree?
The rest of the world is teaching Evolution.
Actually, that's what people want scientists and evolutionists to do according to the poll results, and what's the first thing that happens? A knee jerk response about how *dishonest* creationists are.
I couldn’t agree more, s-b. School kids should be taught that a sizeable minority of the citizenry believes that Satan planted fossils to deceive us. In science class.
We need to demonstrate diversity and inclusion of all viewpoints, after all.
How would that be determined and by whom? And why? Who are you to determine that what by what authority and to what end?
Surely you believe that Catholics are Christians, don’t you?
What possible concern is that of yours and why is it relevant to the creation/evolution debates or the topic of this thread?
It's going off topic and trying to cause dissension, aka trolling.
Because America also had Young Earth Creationism to confuse the issue. And the reason for that was the rest of the world lacked William Miller and Ellen G White - American Creationism has Adventist roots.
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