Skip to comments.WTSP-TV/Tampa--Violence at Tampa health care forum
Posted on 08/06/2009 6:27:04 PM PDT by tcrlafEdited on 08/06/2009 8:09:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Tampa, Florida - Angry protesters and strong supporters are clashing inside and all around a health care reform town hall meeting in Downtown Tampa. The meeting which was scheduled to begin at 6:00 at the Children's Board of Hillsborough County drew hundreds of people who quickly began to overwhelm staff and event organizers at the front entrance.
(Excerpt) Read more at wtsp.com ...
More info from a posting on the WTSP website:
"From what I gather - EXTENDED:
SEIU & Castor (whose contributors are predominantly unions trial lawyers, teamsters etc] organize (pay to play) a townhall and announce it at the last minute as to reduce opposition voices.
Never the less, the word gets out at the last minute to citizen-led, unfunded grassroots organizations like 9-12 meetup group. Citizens opposed to government-run healthcare gather at the last minute to have their voices heard.
Exactly what Castor and SEIU did not want.
Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty. Hundreds of citizens outside. And yet public is not allowed in.
Castor makes speech turns it over to panel. Soon leaves.
People were prevented access inside to the meeting. Because of this apparent denial of free speech and bias -- and the seemingly blatant sham of a 'townhall' -- many began to shout, some banged windows & doors.
This is what I am surmising / what I am gathering from updates via Twitter.
Cowards. Thugs. And liars. (The Dems and their Union thug supporters)
good for all those who turned out in Tampa to protest Deathcare / Hellcare / Zerocare.
I love this line from your post....
“Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty.”
Does that mean no zombies, vampires or bears are seated?
"Dingell (D-MI) forum on health care forms gets raucous"
Updated at 8:15 p.m.
U.S. Rep. John Dingell was greeted with jeers and cheers today as he tried to explain why changing the nations health care system as he has advocated for more than a half-century in Congress makes sense.
Dingell, 81, told a health care forum he sponsored in Romulus that the legislation wont pay for abortions, as some protesters said it would.
There will be no payment of taxpayer funds for abortion, he said.
As Dingell tried to begin the forum, Mike Sola, of Milan, interrupted the congressman repeatedly as he pushed his son, Scott, in a wheelchair, to the podium. He said proposed changes wouldnt help Scott and called Dingell a fraud.
Even before the town hall began in Romulus, opponents of President Barack Obamas health plan engaged supporters.
You may be dead in five years, Val Butsicaris, 60, of Taylor, shouted. They may euthanize you.
She referred to concerns of government rationing of care for the elderly.
Mel Hoffer, 67, of Monroe, a retired Ford Motor Co. employee, said retired autoworkers have no guarantees.
We may need something to fall back on, he said.
Earlier in Troy, about 200 people gathered outside the office of U.S. Rep. Gary Peters to let him know they dont like Obamas health care plan.
The organized protests that came to metro Detroit today followed others around the nation this week. In Petoskey on Wednesday, U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Menominee, faced shouts of Thats a lie and Youve lost my vote at a meeting with senior citizens. I'd post the entire article on it's own but can't due to restrictions. http://freep.com/article/20090806/NEWS15/90806087/Dingell-forum-on-health-care-reforms-gets-raucous
From A Tampa Bay Online Article:
“Asked earlier today about possible disruption at the event, Kim Diehl of SEIU said, “We’re prepared. We have strategies to deal with it if it should come up.””
SEIU, the AFLCIO, and Obama’s own stormtroopers, “Organizing For America” show up, and there is violence. Who’d a thunk it.
It’s EXACTLY what the Radical Socialist Democrats wanted!!
But wait, I thought Obama was elected to be a uniter.
For some reason, I thought that would mean NOT openly engaging his “army” of Union and ACORN members to go head-to-head with peaceful protesters. I was expecting something more subtle, like a gentle wave of his hand.
Can’t we all just get along? < /sarc>
Any video, or pics?
for first hand report - brief but there.
FReeper screamin sunshine was there - see their report at the end of the thread.
Guarantee you, next move, Obama will call up the Guard to patrol the meetings. That is what all these liberal talking points are about, so that he will have justification.
COMPLETE WITH THEIR OWN DR MENGELE, THE HOMOSEXUAL EZEKIEL EMMANUELE.
STOP THEM BEFORE THIS CREEPY SOB AND HIS RED SOB COMRADES ARE IN CHARGE OF DECIDING WHETHER YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIVE OR DIE.
Sounds like a union thug event. Watch and see—Obama’s flunkies are going to hurt some innocent citizen real bad at one of these things so as to deter people from coming out. That is the Community Organizer’s MO.
I remember when the Philly thug union did this to two FReepers some years back to suppress opposition to their candidate (Ed Rendell).
That’s what we want. Images of a town hall with people outside trying to get in.
Politicians and strategists praise Patrick Gaspard highly, although he stays away from the limelight.
"Patrick is the best political mind of his generation in New York and maybe the nation," says Kevin Sheekey, who as Michael Bloomberg's right-hand-man has frequently worked and battled with Gaspard.
"I wouldn't dispute that," said David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist and Gaspard's cohort on the campaign trail. When reminded that such a title could be bestowed on Axelrod himself, the strategist said he was "happy to cede that" to Gaspard.
The Washington Post, among others, has announced that a longtime labor operative of Barack Obama's, Patrick Gaspard, will be named Obama's White House political director.
Gaspard served as national political director for much of Obama's general election campaign and was named deputy director of personnel for the transition effort. Prior to his work with Obama, Gaspard was the lead political operative for the 1199 branch of the Service Employees International Union, a huge and hugely influential union representing health care workers in New York. He spent the 2004 general election as the national field director for America Coming Together.
Gaspard was featured prominently in Ryan Lizza's recent New Yorker piece detailing how Obama won. Of his job interview with the Illinois Senator, Gaspard recalled Obama saying: "I think that I'm a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I'll tell you right now that I'm gonna think I'm a better political director than my political director."
What is the point of a townhall where only one point of view can be expressed? It seems to me that this is a hijacking of democracy by Castor and his union friends. Take it out on the Congressman next November.
"The Difficulty of Tolerance"
"Must We Mean What We Say?"
These people are walking caricatures.
Now that the RATs are in power, they are employing tactics that would have made the Nazis envious. The Brownshirts at the "town hall" are just the latest example.
In a sane world, it would get reported as such and all citizens would be outraged. Maybe it will still happen in time, but for right now it looks like the Left's plans to completely destroy America from within are right on track, and around 50% of the country report that they approve of it.
May God have mercy on our country.
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tickleddragon on August 6, 2009 at 9:23 PM
"banging on windows" = "violence"???
I guess this reporter never saw the union thugs in Philly issue that beat down several years ago.
“Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty. Hundreds of citizens outside. And yet public is not allowed in. “
Let’s see how many other congress-critters & reps try this tactic. They’re gonna be sorry if they do, cuz it’s not gonna look too attractive to the vast majority of Americans.
“sponsored by state Rep. Betty Reed, D-Tampa, and the Service Employees International Union,”
When I went to a Republican rally during the last election, the demonstration against it was being run by some jerk in an SEIU jacket.
Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty.
BREAK OUT THE BATTERING RAMS!
This needs to be reported. Including the bullsh*t staging done by the politicians and union thugs to shut out oppsing voices and fool the public into thinking everyone is going along with it. Needs to be on every channel. Hope they have video .
I don’t see any Brooks Brothers suits.
KOS libs are blaming ALL of this on ....
Many of the protestors were from the 9-12 Project, or so they say on KOS.
Here comes the SPIN folks! it’s all that EVIL, CRAZY, Glenn BEck’s fault, NOT the fault of those innocent SEIU, Organizing For America, and AFLCIO union thugs bussed in and PAID for this event!!
Check out this KOS Idiot’s comment about TAXPAYERS demanding thier elected representatives listen to THEM for a change!!!!
“Of course they hate democracy. (13+ / 0-)
They’ve been advocating a vengeful, uncaring theocracy for several decades now.”
“This needs to be reported...”
It is. Right here. :)
Exactly how they want it. Dear God, what have the fools elected?
The more they pull this..the more they will fuel the anger.
You can see in that Tampa clip that people were pissed.
It’s going to get worse. The citizens of American want to be heard.
Suits in Florida in July! (or anywhere else for that matter)
Leave it to Babs Boxer to spew BS like that.
I noticed those too. Telling!
I would agree that I hate democracy. Because we’ve definitely come to the point where ACORN/SEIU wolves are voting to eat us taxpaying sheep for dinner.
I think someone should be taping this and asking each and every person that is on the outside how they would vote on Obamacare. Then ask what district they are from. Then when people that are allowed in start pouring out, they should ask the very same thing making sure they ask what district they are from.
I bet you that people that are inside would have no idea what district they are from. Meaning they were planted thugs!
I attended Dingell’s forum. They had so many people, they had to break it into two sessions, and there were still many people who couldn’t get in. The schmuck who moderated it was a representative from AARP and was loudly jeered. The ACORN and unions plants were there, but they were greatly outnumbered.
Dingell, who wrote the bill and kept telling us he wrote the bill (the crowd responded loudly that he didn’t even know what was in it, and got booed for writing it) got booed very loudly when he was introduced and when the meeting adjourned.
They thought they were setting a sympathetic mood by having a Dingell supporter with a horrible disease open the meeting by regaling us with her medical problems and telling us she was a social worker (which didn’t do much to gleen her any sympathy). The crowd didn’t appreciate being conned or lectured to and shouted, “We all have sob stories”. She left rather abruptly.
The crowd was relentless. We were sick of the lies and the b.s. he was giving us and clearly let him know we weren’t buying any of it.
Thanks for the link. Looks like a lot of fired up Americans who aren’t going to take the forcing of Obamacare down their throats.
I have never seen Americans, regular people, so upset and so determined to have their voices heard by an unresponsive Congress than now.
Well, let’s see.....I do remember the antiwar protests during the Vietnam era....but they were mostly funded by the Communists and filled by youth who did not want to be drafted.
Those protesters were treated aw heroes by the press and one of them became a domestic terrorist then - today top friend of the Dear Leader who has called out his brownshirts to “hit back twice as hard” and who has instituted his Nazi/Commie like “snitch” line.
Bravo all who turned out in Tampa! (well, Bravo to all but he ACORN/SEIU Browshirts)
The tree of Liberty.......
people trying to get in
“Because of this apparent denial of free speech and bias — and the seemingly blatant sham of a ‘townhall’ — many began to shout, some banged windows & doors.”
We need to learn from the civil rights movement — joining hands and singing something like “We shall overcome,” gathering quietly in huge numbers in a dignified manner. Make them look like the out of control, raging lunatics, and us as the innocent victims of their hate and lust for power. Give them no justification to react (bad PR on their part if they do).
Non-violence protest can be a extremely powerful force. We should study and use the methods of the MLK jr. effectively.
Related - SEIU again....
SHOCK VIDEO-— DEMS SNEAK UNION THUGS INTO CARNAHAN TOWN HALL-1,000 Tea Party Taxpayers Locked Out!
Gateway Pundit ^ | August 6, 2009 | Gateway Pundit
Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:53:59 PM by Free ThinkerNY
Over 1,000 St. Louis Tea Party Taxpayers showed up to attend the Russ Carnahan town hall meeting in South St. Louis.
They were Locked Out!
But... The Carnahan staff was sneaking in SEIU members in the side door marked “handicapped.” Here’s the video:
(Excerpt) Read more at gatewaypundit.blogspot.com ...
they are making a huge huge mistake...I wonder if they recognize how this is going to backfire on them, yet.
I fear they keep this up. sooner or later someone is going to lose it on either side and it’s going to end up in a firefight.