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WTSP-TV/Tampa--Violence at Tampa health care forum
WTSP TV10 Tampa ^ | 1 Hour Ago | Phil Landeros

Posted on 08/06/2009 6:27:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf

Edited on 08/06/2009 8:09:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Tampa, Florida - Angry protesters and strong supporters are clashing inside and all around a health care reform town hall meeting in Downtown Tampa. The meeting which was scheduled to begin at 6:00 at the Children's Board of Hillsborough County drew hundreds of people who quickly began to overwhelm staff and event organizers at the front entrance.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; angrymob; bhohealthcare; castor; democrats; hopechangey; liberalfascism; obama; obamacare; revolution; seiu; thegreatuniter; townhall; townhalls; unions; unionthugs; unionviolence; violence
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HERE WE GO, FOLKS!!

More info from a posting on the WTSP website:

"From what I gather - EXTENDED:

SEIU & Castor (whose contributors are predominantly unions trial lawyers, teamsters etc] organize (pay to play) a townhall and announce it at the last minute as to reduce opposition voices.

Never the less, the word gets out at the last minute to citizen-led, unfunded grassroots organizations like 9-12 meetup group. Citizens opposed to government-run healthcare gather at the last minute to have their voices heard.

Exactly what Castor and SEIU did not want.

Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty. Hundreds of citizens outside. And yet public is not allowed in.

Castor makes speech turns it over to panel. Soon leaves.

People were prevented access inside to the meeting. Because of this apparent denial of free speech and bias -- and the seemingly blatant sham of a 'townhall' -- many began to shout, some banged windows & doors.

This is what I am surmising / what I am gathering from updates via Twitter.

1 posted on 08/06/2009 6:27:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf

Cowards. Thugs. And liars. (The Dems and their Union thug supporters)

good for all those who turned out in Tampa to protest Deathcare / Hellcare / Zerocare.


2 posted on 08/06/2009 6:29:07 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: tcrlaf

I love this line from your post....

“Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty.”

Does that mean no zombies, vampires or bears are seated?


3 posted on 08/06/2009 6:30:16 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Prayers Up! It's our last defense!)
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To: tcrlaf
Oil is getting poured on the fire.

"Dingell (D-MI) forum on health care forms gets raucous"

Updated at 8:15 p.m.

U.S. Rep. John Dingell was greeted with jeers and cheers today as he tried to explain why changing the nation’s health care system — as he has advocated for more than a half-century in Congress — makes sense.

Dingell, 81, told a health care forum he sponsored in Romulus that the legislation won’t pay for abortions, as some protesters said it would.

“There will be no payment of taxpayer funds for abortion,” he said.

As Dingell tried to begin the forum, Mike Sola, of Milan, interrupted the congressman repeatedly as he pushed his son, Scott, in a wheelchair, to the podium. He said proposed changes wouldn’t help Scott and called Dingell a fraud.

Even before the town hall began in Romulus, opponents of President Barack Obama’s health plan engaged supporters.

“You may be dead in five years,” Val Butsicaris, 60, of Taylor, shouted. “They may euthanize you.”

She referred to concerns of government rationing of care for the elderly.

Mel Hoffer, 67, of Monroe, a retired Ford Motor Co. employee, said retired autoworkers have no guarantees.

“We may need something to fall back on,” he said.

Earlier in Troy, about 200 people gathered outside the office of U.S. Rep. Gary Peters to let him know they don’t like Obama’s health care plan.

The organized protests that came to metro Detroit today followed others around the nation this week. In Petoskey on Wednesday, U.S. Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Menominee, faced shouts of “That’s a lie” and “You’ve lost my vote” at a meeting with senior citizens. I'd post the entire article on it's own but can't due to restrictions. http://freep.com/article/20090806/NEWS15/90806087/Dingell-forum-on-health-care-reforms-gets-raucous

4 posted on 08/06/2009 6:30:23 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: tcrlaf
Thursday's forum/near riot was sponsored by state Rep. Betty Reed, D-Tampa, and the Service Employees International Union, who apparently had hoped to hold something of a pep rally for President Obama's health care reform proposal.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/article1025529.ece

5 posted on 08/06/2009 6:31:23 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: tcrlaf

From A Tampa Bay Online Article:

“Asked earlier today about possible disruption at the event, Kim Diehl of SEIU said, “We’re prepared. We have strategies to deal with it if it should come up.””

Imagine that....
SEIU, the AFLCIO, and Obama’s own stormtroopers, “Organizing For America” show up, and there is violence. Who’d a thunk it.

It’s EXACTLY what the Radical Socialist Democrats wanted!!


6 posted on 08/06/2009 6:31:33 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf

But wait, I thought Obama was elected to be a uniter.

For some reason, I thought that would mean NOT openly engaging his “army” of Union and ACORN members to go head-to-head with peaceful protesters. I was expecting something more subtle, like a gentle wave of his hand.

Can’t we all just get along? < /sarc>


7 posted on 08/06/2009 6:32:25 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: tcrlaf

Any video, or pics?


8 posted on 08/06/2009 6:32:32 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: tcrlaf

9 posted on 08/06/2009 6:32:32 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: tcrlaf
This is the paradigm for the next 3 1/2 years.
Be prepared.
10 posted on 08/06/2009 6:33:10 PM PDT by AU72
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To: tcrlaf

see

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2310091/posts?page=25

for first hand report - brief but there.

FReeper screamin sunshine was there - see their report at the end of the thread.


11 posted on 08/06/2009 6:34:28 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: tcrlaf

Guarantee you, next move, Obama will call up the Guard to patrol the meetings. That is what all these liberal talking points are about, so that he will have justification.


12 posted on 08/06/2009 6:34:39 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: tcrlaf
THE MARXISTS ARE PUSHING THE NATIONALIZATION OF THE UNITED STATES MEDICAL INDUSTRY TO BENEFIT THE SEIU AND THE SOCIALIST (DEMOCRAT) PARTY, USING GOEBBELS LIKE TACTICS.

COMPLETE WITH THEIR OWN DR MENGELE, THE HOMOSEXUAL EZEKIEL EMMANUELE.

STOP THEM BEFORE THIS CREEPY SOB AND HIS RED SOB COMRADES ARE IN CHARGE OF DECIDING WHETHER YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIVE OR DIE.

13 posted on 08/06/2009 6:34:51 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: tcrlaf

Sounds like a union thug event. Watch and see—Obama’s flunkies are going to hurt some innocent citizen real bad at one of these things so as to deter people from coming out. That is the Community Organizer’s MO.

I remember when the Philly thug union did this to two FReepers some years back to suppress opposition to their candidate (Ed Rendell).


14 posted on 08/06/2009 6:34:52 PM PDT by Palladin (Me to Gubmint Healthcare Counselor: "Get your ass out of here or YOU will be in intensive care!")
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To: tcrlaf

15 posted on 08/06/2009 6:34:54 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: tcrlaf

That’s what we want. Images of a town hall with people outside trying to get in.


16 posted on 08/06/2009 6:35:07 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: tcrlaf
THIS IS THE SOCIALIST HOSPITAL WORKERS UNION THUG LIAR , HUSSEIN BARAKAS POLITICAL DIRECTOR, THE GOEBBELS LIKE PROPAGANDIST WHO WRITES OBAMAS SPEECHES AND IS BEHIND THE SCENES PUSHING THE NATIONALIZATION OF THE UNITED STATES MEDICAL INDUSTRY TO BENEFIT THE SEIU

Politicians and strategists praise Patrick Gaspard highly, although he stays away from the limelight.

"Patrick is the best political mind of his generation in New York and maybe the nation," says Kevin Sheekey, who as Michael Bloomberg's right-hand-man has frequently worked and battled with Gaspard.

"I wouldn't dispute that," said David Axelrod, Obama's chief strategist and Gaspard's cohort on the campaign trail. When reminded that such a title could be bestowed on Axelrod himself, the strategist said he was "happy to cede that" to Gaspard.

The Washington Post, among others, has announced that a longtime labor operative of Barack Obama's, Patrick Gaspard, will be named Obama's White House political director.

Gaspard served as national political director for much of Obama's general election campaign and was named deputy director of personnel for the transition effort. Prior to his work with Obama, Gaspard was the lead political operative for the 1199 branch of the Service Employees International Union, a huge and hugely influential union representing health care workers in New York. He spent the 2004 general election as the national field director for America Coming Together.

Gaspard was featured prominently in Ryan Lizza's recent New Yorker piece detailing how Obama won. Of his job interview with the Illinois Senator, Gaspard recalled Obama saying: "I think that I'm a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I'll tell you right now that I'm gonna think I'm a better political director than my political director."

17 posted on 08/06/2009 6:36:31 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: tcrlaf

What is the point of a townhall where only one point of view can be expressed? It seems to me that this is a hijacking of democracy by Castor and his union friends. Take it out on the Congressman next November.


18 posted on 08/06/2009 6:37:58 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: Rome2000
LOL! Look at the titles of those books on his shelf!

"The Difficulty of Tolerance"

"Must We Mean What We Say?"

These people are walking caricatures.

19 posted on 08/06/2009 6:38:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: AppyPappy
See #9
20 posted on 08/06/2009 6:38:58 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: tcrlaf
The left repeatedly accused Bush of using Fascist tactics when he in fact did not.

Now that the RATs are in power, they are employing tactics that would have made the Nazis envious. The Brownshirts at the "town hall" are just the latest example.

In a sane world, it would get reported as such and all citizens would be outraged. Maybe it will still happen in time, but for right now it looks like the Left's plans to completely destroy America from within are right on track, and around 50% of the country report that they approve of it.

May God have mercy on our country.

21 posted on 08/06/2009 6:39:28 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: tcrlaf

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tickleddragon on August 6, 2009 at 9:23 PM

(h/t Hotair)


22 posted on 08/06/2009 6:39:28 PM PDT by roses of sharon (It is not actual suffering but a taste of better things which excites people to revolt: Hoffer)
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To: tcrlaf
At one point, those trying to get inside began banging on windows

"banging on windows" = "violence"???

I guess this reporter never saw the union thugs in Philly issue that beat down several years ago.

23 posted on 08/06/2009 6:40:23 PM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: tcrlaf

“Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty. Hundreds of citizens outside. And yet public is not allowed in. “

Let’s see how many other congress-critters & reps try this tactic. They’re gonna be sorry if they do, cuz it’s not gonna look too attractive to the vast majority of Americans.


24 posted on 08/06/2009 6:40:26 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Retired Chemist

“sponsored by state Rep. Betty Reed, D-Tampa, and the Service Employees International Union,”

When I went to a Republican rally during the last election, the demonstration against it was being run by some jerk in an SEIU jacket.


25 posted on 08/06/2009 6:41:56 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1

“Inside, the townhall seated are mostly union members/supporters/people - yet seats remain empty.”

BREAK OUT THE BATTERING RAMS!


26 posted on 08/06/2009 6:42:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tar and feather the sons of bi#ches! Ride them out of town on a rail!)
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To: tcrlaf

This needs to be reported. Including the bullsh*t staging done by the politicians and union thugs to shut out oppsing voices and fool the public into thinking everyone is going along with it. Needs to be on every channel. Hope they have video .


27 posted on 08/06/2009 6:43:01 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: hole_n_one

I don’t see any Brooks Brothers suits.


28 posted on 08/06/2009 6:43:25 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt; All

KOS libs are blaming ALL of this on ....
TA! DA!
GLENN BECK!!!

Many of the protestors were from the 9-12 Project, or so they say on KOS.

Here comes the SPIN folks! it’s all that EVIL, CRAZY, Glenn BEck’s fault, NOT the fault of those innocent SEIU, Organizing For America, and AFLCIO union thugs bussed in and PAID for this event!!

Check out this KOS Idiot’s comment about TAXPAYERS demanding thier elected representatives listen to THEM for a change!!!!

“Of course they hate democracy. (13+ / 0-)
They’ve been advocating a vengeful, uncaring theocracy for several decades now.”


29 posted on 08/06/2009 6:45:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: stayathomemom

video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akaENJczb1Q


30 posted on 08/06/2009 6:45:41 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: stayathomemom
SPEAK UP AMERICA, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

I am not a mob

31 posted on 08/06/2009 6:46:58 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Pajamajan

“This needs to be reported...”

It is. Right here. :)


32 posted on 08/06/2009 6:47:15 PM PDT by mo
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To: tcrlaf

Exactly how they want it. Dear God, what have the fools elected?


33 posted on 08/06/2009 6:48:35 PM PDT by GBA
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To: stayathomemom

A+


34 posted on 08/06/2009 6:49:04 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: tcrlaf

Bookmark


35 posted on 08/06/2009 6:49:13 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: AppyPappy

The more they pull this..the more they will fuel the anger.

You can see in that Tampa clip that people were pissed.

It’s going to get worse. The citizens of American want to be heard.


36 posted on 08/06/2009 6:49:50 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: stayathomemom

Suits in Florida in July! (or anywhere else for that matter)

Leave it to Babs Boxer to spew BS like that.


37 posted on 08/06/2009 6:50:17 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: buccaneer81

I noticed those too. Telling!


38 posted on 08/06/2009 6:50:58 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: tcrlaf

I would agree that I hate democracy. Because we’ve definitely come to the point where ACORN/SEIU wolves are voting to eat us taxpaying sheep for dinner.


39 posted on 08/06/2009 6:52:40 PM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I think someone should be taping this and asking each and every person that is on the outside how they would vote on Obamacare. Then ask what district they are from. Then when people that are allowed in start pouring out, they should ask the very same thing making sure they ask what district they are from.

I bet you that people that are inside would have no idea what district they are from. Meaning they were planted thugs!


40 posted on 08/06/2009 6:52:51 PM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Kieri

I attended Dingell’s forum. They had so many people, they had to break it into two sessions, and there were still many people who couldn’t get in. The schmuck who moderated it was a representative from AARP and was loudly jeered. The ACORN and unions plants were there, but they were greatly outnumbered.

Dingell, who wrote the bill and kept telling us he wrote the bill (the crowd responded loudly that he didn’t even know what was in it, and got booed for writing it) got booed very loudly when he was introduced and when the meeting adjourned.

They thought they were setting a sympathetic mood by having a Dingell supporter with a horrible disease open the meeting by regaling us with her medical problems and telling us she was a social worker (which didn’t do much to gleen her any sympathy). The crowd didn’t appreciate being conned or lectured to and shouted, “We all have sob stories”. She left rather abruptly.

The crowd was relentless. We were sick of the lies and the b.s. he was giving us and clearly let him know we weren’t buying any of it.


41 posted on 08/06/2009 6:53:51 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: RummyChick

Thanks for the link. Looks like a lot of fired up Americans who aren’t going to take the forcing of Obamacare down their throats.

I have never seen Americans, regular people, so upset and so determined to have their voices heard by an unresponsive Congress than now.

Well, let’s see.....I do remember the antiwar protests during the Vietnam era....but they were mostly funded by the Communists and filled by youth who did not want to be drafted.

Those protesters were treated aw heroes by the press and one of them became a domestic terrorist then - today top friend of the Dear Leader who has called out his brownshirts to “hit back twice as hard” and who has instituted his Nazi/Commie like “snitch” line.

Amazing.

Bravo all who turned out in Tampa! (well, Bravo to all but he ACORN/SEIU Browshirts)


42 posted on 08/06/2009 6:54:13 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (Obama's Deathcare ---- many will suffer and/or die unnecessarily.)
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To: FrdmLvr

news report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF997mMdA48


43 posted on 08/06/2009 6:54:13 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: tcrlaf

Absolutely pathetic.

The tree of Liberty.......


44 posted on 08/06/2009 6:55:41 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: RummyChick

people trying to get in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX4F_cb9AXk


45 posted on 08/06/2009 6:55:44 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: tcrlaf

“Because of this apparent denial of free speech and bias — and the seemingly blatant sham of a ‘townhall’ — many began to shout, some banged windows & doors.”

We need to learn from the civil rights movement — joining hands and singing something like “We shall overcome,” gathering quietly in huge numbers in a dignified manner. Make them look like the out of control, raging lunatics, and us as the innocent victims of their hate and lust for power. Give them no justification to react (bad PR on their part if they do).

Non-violence protest can be a extremely powerful force. We should study and use the methods of the MLK jr. effectively.


46 posted on 08/06/2009 6:56:47 PM PDT by BelleAl
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To: roses of sharon
Insurance companies are spending over a million dollars a day lobbying against the reform

BS...prove it

47 posted on 08/06/2009 6:57:21 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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To: RummyChick; All

Related - SEIU again....

SHOCK VIDEO-— DEMS SNEAK UNION THUGS INTO CARNAHAN TOWN HALL-1,000 Tea Party Taxpayers Locked Out!
Gateway Pundit ^ | August 6, 2009 | Gateway Pundit

Posted on Thursday, August 06, 2009 7:53:59 PM by Free ThinkerNY

Over 1,000 St. Louis Tea Party Taxpayers showed up to attend the Russ Carnahan town hall meeting in South St. Louis.

They were Locked Out!

But... The Carnahan staff was sneaking in SEIU members in the side door marked “handicapped.” Here’s the video:

(Excerpt) Read more at gatewaypundit.blogspot.com ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2310160/posts


48 posted on 08/06/2009 6:57:36 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Uncle Ike

they are making a huge huge mistake...I wonder if they recognize how this is going to backfire on them, yet.


49 posted on 08/06/2009 6:59:26 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: tcrlaf

I fear they keep this up. sooner or later someone is going to lose it on either side and it’s going to end up in a firefight.


50 posted on 08/06/2009 6:59:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for the people to remain silent.)
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