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Free Republic ^ | 8/07/09 | Peter Fleckenstein

Posted on 08/06/2009 10:30:23 PM PDT by Libloather

One click shopping - Health Care Bill Summary From Peter Fleckenstein

Just a sample -

PG 29 Line 4-16 YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!! Additionally you can reference PG 15 Line 19-25.

PG 42 The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HealthCare Benefits for you. You have no choice!

PG 59 Line 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer!

PG 62 Protection of Data, Government shows they will have database of your personal & financial info.

PG 89 Line 6-10 The FAR is not applicable. Government can write contracts any way they want.

PG 98 Line 8 Americans - You will be paying for others HealthCare while paying for your own.

PG 100 Line 15-19 The Government Will be using ACORN and other community groups to promote & enroll.

PG 110 Line 19-24 the Treasury can take $$ from Soc Line to pay HealthCare.

PG 111 Line 208 The Federal Government will usurp all State powers in State Based HealthCare Exchange. Violation of 10th Amendment.

PG 126 Line 10-15 The Government can make up prices for anything at anytime for any reason.

PG 127 Line 1-16 Doctors: The Government will tell YOU what you can make.

PG 130 Line 10-23 Federal Government will subsidize State Medicaid = Even Higher State & Federal taxes for ALL.

G 170 Line 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

PG 239 Line 14-24 Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.

PG 265 Line 1131 Government mandates & controls productivity for private HealthCare industries.

PG 268 Line 1141 Fed Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

PG 287 Line 14-25 PROOF that Government will ration HealthCare by mandating waiting periods for readmission. PG 298 Line 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.


TOPICS: Announcements; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda; angrymob; barackobama; bho44; bhofascism; bhohealthcare; congress; democrats; economy; healthcare; liberalfascism; meeting; obamacare; pelosi; plantationhealthcare; socialism; socializedmedicine; teaparty; townhall
Click on the link - and print it. Consider it, well, ammo.
1 posted on 08/06/2009 10:30:24 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Good list bump.


2 posted on 08/06/2009 10:34:56 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Libloather

And if your rep is a no-show,the citizens should hold their own town meeting with a dais and an empty chair with their congresscritter’s name on it. They should invite the likely 2010 opponent as well. They should calmly ask specific questions of the empty chair and the opposition. Representatives who feign fear from non-existent “death threats” need to retire. Post it on youtube.


3 posted on 08/06/2009 10:35:24 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
After action report from Denver today.

La Pelosi came to town and moonbat attacks

4 posted on 08/06/2009 10:38:46 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Sgt_Schultze

That’s a great idea. I’m planning on attending a protest Saturday in front of Harry Mitchell’s office in Scottsdale. A good quote for a sign is Hillary’s famous screech: “We are Americans and we have a RIGHT to debate and to disagree with any administration.”


5 posted on 08/06/2009 10:39:46 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Survival is a Mom's Job! Check out my blog: www.thesurvivalmom.com)
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To: ChocChipCookie; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
A good quote for a sign...

I have one - GIVE ME SINGLE-PAYER AND GIVE ME DEATH!

No good?

6 posted on 08/06/2009 10:43:53 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther)
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To: ChocChipCookie
Make sure there is a flattering photo of Hillary to accompany your quote.
7 posted on 08/06/2009 10:47:28 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Libloather

Thanks!


8 posted on 08/06/2009 10:49:46 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Dinah Lord

Great sign! Why didn’t your masters supply you with the professional signs like those favoring Ocommiecare were able to make for themselves?


9 posted on 08/06/2009 10:50:59 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Libloather

Has anyone checked if this list is accurate? I received it in an email and could not find what for what is suppose to be on p. 59.

We need to be very careful.


10 posted on 08/06/2009 11:00:05 PM PDT by Ooh-Ah
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To: Libloather

I’m seeing large groups of the public being locked out of public meetings.

I remember once this person had a bottle of that stink...Ya get it at novelty shops and on line...Saw it empty a room *real* quick.

Like this product:

Liquid ASS is an overwhelming, stinky, funny prank product. Once unleashed, this power–packed, super–concentrated liquid begins to evaporate filling the air with a genuine, foul butt smell with hints of dead animal and fresh poop. The pranks you can pull with Liquid ASS are unlimited. This gagging stench will have people laughing until it hurts.


11 posted on 08/06/2009 11:01:31 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
...filling the air with a genuine, foul butt smell with hints of dead animal and fresh poop.

At least we're talking about the same thing - Deathcare™ - eh?

12 posted on 08/06/2009 11:07:34 PM PDT by Libloather (Tea Totaler, PROUD Birther)
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To: dragnet2

OH YES!!! Liquid Ass is vile and repugnant! Works great! ;)


13 posted on 08/06/2009 11:07:58 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: Ooh-Ah; All

Has anyone checked if this list is accurate?
Yes please. Is the actual bill online. Can someone who is good at this stuff PLEASE crosscheck that this is legit. It will do more damage than good if it is in ANY WAY inaccurate.


14 posted on 08/06/2009 11:12:18 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Sgt_Schultze
And if your rep is a no-show,the citizens should hold their own town meeting with a dais and an empty chair with their congresscritter’s name on it. They should invite the likely 2010 opponent as well. They should calmly ask specific questions of the empty chair and the opposition. Representatives who feign fear from non-existent “death threats” need to retire. Post it on youtube.

I think this is a great idea.... IF there is a conservative that is of a mind to challenge these liberals have them use the time and space the liberal won't use and educate as many as can be educated about what this BamaCare legislation is really to do to alll non-union and state workers.

Those medicaid and medicare recipients are already in their system and they will be the first in line for the fixing. Where ever it is that medicaid recipients go to get their 'health' vouchers need to find out what is in store for them.

15 posted on 08/06/2009 11:13:59 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Libloather

TAKE VIDEO CAMERAS, FREEPERS!!! ALWAYS!!! :-)


16 posted on 08/06/2009 11:18:56 PM PDT by DC Ripper
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To: randomhero97
Go for it. I am not going near one of these political clusterf*cks. I'd get some union chickensh*t in my face and do something that would get me arrested. I know myself well enough and I can't afford it this year. Next year, after I'm over the hump with college finances, I'm there.
17 posted on 08/07/2009 12:25:19 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Libloather

mark


18 posted on 08/07/2009 12:39:59 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: Libloather

Be sure to bring along the actual bill text of those lines and sections also, with a clear understanding of the lawyer speak translation. This will be for the smartass types with cameras who will “get in your face” like Dear Leader says.


19 posted on 08/07/2009 12:42:10 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: hinckley buzzard

It’s good to know yourself. :) Stay Safe.


20 posted on 08/07/2009 12:42:48 AM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Libloather

/BUMP!


21 posted on 08/07/2009 12:59:54 AM PDT by MaxMax (Will the real JIM THOMPSON please pick up the white phone)
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To: Ooh-Ah
I received it in an email and could not find what for what is suppose to be on p. 59.

A big BUMP to you. You're absolutely right. Read the bill and you will find many discrepancies with Fleckenstein's list. He did those of us opposed to nobamacare a tremendous disservice by publishing that list without doing detailed research on each item and publishing same. Shame on him.

Pg 59 is one of the most obvious. This part of the bill has to do with electronic payments being made by insurance companies to the provider (doctor). It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with private bank accounts. If you read just item C on this page it really looks like the Feds are gonna be tromping all over you bank account. But if you read this entire section of the bill, pgs 57-62, you'll see the context you'll understand the error.

Even Rush has spread this baloney on his program.

We are NOT doing ourselves a favor by spreading these misconceptions.

FWIW, you'll notice a reference to "X12 Version 5010 transaction standards" at the top of page 59. X12 is an ANSI standard having to do with the transmission of electronic healthcare claims and payments for same. X12 grew out of the HIPAA legislation that Congress passed in the late 1990s (1996 IIRC). So this is nothing new. If you'd like to read an "English" version of this part of the nobamacare bill, read page 4 from this document from 2002.

22 posted on 08/07/2009 1:09:22 AM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: Libloather

bttt


23 posted on 08/07/2009 1:37:08 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Libloather

MUST READ BUMP AND BOOKMARK


24 posted on 08/07/2009 1:39:36 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: DC Ripper; Libloather; All
TAKE VIDEO CAMERAS, FREEPERS!!! ALWAYS!!! :-)

This is critical- seen all the union goonery erupt?

Cell phone cameras, small video cameras- anything to document this anarchy.

25 posted on 08/07/2009 2:15:20 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Libloather
ComeAndTakeIt.working
26 posted on 08/07/2009 4:27:55 AM PDT by davidlachnicht ("IF WE'RE ALL TO BE TARGETS, THEN WE ALL MUST BE SOLDIERS.")
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To: Libloather
THE MARXISTS ARE PUSHING THE NATIONALIZATION OF THE UNITED STATES MEDICAL INDUSTRY TO BENEFIT THE SEIU AND THE SOCIALIST (DEMOCRAT) PARTY, USING GOEBBELS AND ERNST ROHM (SA) LIKE TACTICS.

COMPLETE WITH THEIR OWN DR MENGELE, THE HOMOSEXUAL EZEKIEL EMMANUELE.

STOP THE SOCIALISTS BEFORE RED CREEPY SOB'S LIKE THIS DECIDE WHETHER YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIVE OR DIE

27 posted on 08/07/2009 4:29:47 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: Rome2000

He’s still using floppy disks? How old is this photo?


28 posted on 08/07/2009 4:35:01 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Libloather

My first question is about what is not in the RAT Health Care Plan: Where is the provision that requires Members of Congress, their staff, and other federal employees to give up their current health care plan and enroll in 0bamacare? If 0bamacare is not good enough for you and your family, then why should we be forced to join the plan.


29 posted on 08/07/2009 4:36:06 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: All

Anyone planning to go to Arlen Specter’s meeting in Centre County next week? I hear it’s at 8:30 AM on Wednesday at the Penn Stater Hotel.


31 posted on 08/07/2009 7:36:45 AM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: paulycy

That woman’s story was proven to be untruthful..

Perhaps you can ask mods to remove it.


32 posted on 08/07/2009 7:46:10 AM PDT by jch10
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To: jch10
Perhaps you can ask mods to remove it.

I did. Thank you.

33 posted on 08/07/2009 8:52:12 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: dragnet2
Liquid ASS is an overwhelming, stinky, funny prank product. Once unleashed, this power–packed, super–concentrated liquid begins to evaporate filling the air with a genuine, foul butt smell with hints of dead animal and fresh poop. The pranks you can pull with Liquid ASS are unlimited. This gagging stench will have people laughing until it hurts.

Hydrogen sulphide gas (manure gas) smells like rotten eggs (very dangerious stuff, can kill when concentrated), butyric acid smells like rancid butter and soaks into a porous surface, it is the devil to clean up (avoid getting any on your body or clothes/shoes!)

Regards,
GtG

34 posted on 08/07/2009 11:18:48 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Well thanks for that tip on the dangers of gag gifts.

:o


35 posted on 08/07/2009 4:01:13 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Libloather; All

Please also be aware of HR 676 which Conyers and Kucinich co-authored. Is medicare for all.
Link: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.R.676:

Just in case they try a bait and switch thingy.


36 posted on 08/07/2009 8:36:39 PM PDT by hyperconservative (Live long and prosper, Free Republic!)
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To: trooprally

ping


37 posted on 08/08/2009 5:27:43 AM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: cindy-true-supporter

Ping


38 posted on 08/08/2009 5:47:48 AM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: dragnet2

Now, now. That kind of prank will get you an arrest and a hazmat team. Don’t go there.


39 posted on 08/08/2009 6:22:35 AM PDT by GVnana (Sarah for America)
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To: GVnana
That kind of prank will get you an arrest and a hazmat team.

Ya better roll the men in the moon suits then, as they vile stench being emitted by your corrupt government non-representative representatives is enough to choke off an entire open air stadium.

Check into this, and report back.

40 posted on 08/08/2009 9:30:52 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I think that’s a good idea. WE change the venue and the rules. Why walk into a Town Hall Meeting that is rife with thugs? Let’s host something on our terms. The Congressman can come. Or not.


41 posted on 08/09/2009 12:31:22 PM PDT by bboop (Tar and feathers -- good back then, good now)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

O that’s absolute genius. Our own town hall, public. I would like to submit this idea to my tea party folks.


42 posted on 08/12/2009 4:29:36 AM PDT by momincombatboots (The last experience of the sinner is the horrible enslavement of the freedom he desired. -C.S. Lewis)
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