Skip to comments.Attending a Tea Party/Town Hall meeting? You need to be prepared. Try this!
Posted on 08/06/2009 10:30:23 PM PDT by Libloather
One click shopping - Health Care Bill Summary From Peter Fleckenstein
Just a sample -
PG 29 Line 4-16 YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!! Additionally you can reference PG 15 Line 19-25.
PG 42 The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HealthCare Benefits for you. You have no choice!
PG 59 Line 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer!
PG 62 Protection of Data, Government shows they will have database of your personal & financial info.
PG 89 Line 6-10 The FAR is not applicable. Government can write contracts any way they want.
PG 98 Line 8 Americans - You will be paying for others HealthCare while paying for your own.
PG 100 Line 15-19 The Government Will be using ACORN and other community groups to promote & enroll.
PG 110 Line 19-24 the Treasury can take $$ from Soc Line to pay HealthCare.
PG 111 Line 208 The Federal Government will usurp all State powers in State Based HealthCare Exchange. Violation of 10th Amendment.
PG 126 Line 10-15 The Government can make up prices for anything at anytime for any reason.
PG 127 Line 1-16 Doctors: The Government will tell YOU what you can make.
PG 130 Line 10-23 Federal Government will subsidize State Medicaid = Even Higher State & Federal taxes for ALL.
G 170 Line 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)
PG 239 Line 14-24 Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
PG 265 Line 1131 Government mandates & controls productivity for private HealthCare industries.
PG 268 Line 1141 Fed Government regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.
PG 287 Line 14-25 PROOF that Government will ration HealthCare by mandating waiting periods for readmission. PG 298 Line 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission - Government will penalize you.
PG 429 Lines 10-12 advance care consultation may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Good list bump.
And if your rep is a no-show,the citizens should hold their own town meeting with a dais and an empty chair with their congresscritters name on it. They should invite the likely 2010 opponent as well. They should calmly ask specific questions of the empty chair and the opposition. Representatives who feign fear from non-existent death threats need to retire. Post it on youtube.
That’s a great idea. I’m planning on attending a protest Saturday in front of Harry Mitchell’s office in Scottsdale. A good quote for a sign is Hillary’s famous screech: “We are Americans and we have a RIGHT to debate and to disagree with any administration.”
I have one - GIVE ME SINGLE-PAYER AND GIVE ME DEATH!
Great sign! Why didn’t your masters supply you with the professional signs like those favoring Ocommiecare were able to make for themselves?
Has anyone checked if this list is accurate? I received it in an email and could not find what for what is suppose to be on p. 59.
We need to be very careful.
I’m seeing large groups of the public being locked out of public meetings.
I remember once this person had a bottle of that stink...Ya get it at novelty shops and on line...Saw it empty a room *real* quick.
Like this product:
Liquid ASS is an overwhelming, stinky, funny prank product. Once unleashed, this powerpacked, superconcentrated liquid begins to evaporate filling the air with a genuine, foul butt smell with hints of dead animal and fresh poop. The pranks you can pull with Liquid ASS are unlimited. This gagging stench will have people laughing until it hurts.
At least we're talking about the same thing - Deathcare - eh?
OH YES!!! Liquid Ass is vile and repugnant! Works great! ;)
Has anyone checked if this list is accurate?
Yes please. Is the actual bill online. Can someone who is good at this stuff PLEASE crosscheck that this is legit. It will do more damage than good if it is in ANY WAY inaccurate.
I think this is a great idea.... IF there is a conservative that is of a mind to challenge these liberals have them use the time and space the liberal won't use and educate as many as can be educated about what this BamaCare legislation is really to do to alll non-union and state workers.
Those medicaid and medicare recipients are already in their system and they will be the first in line for the fixing. Where ever it is that medicaid recipients go to get their 'health' vouchers need to find out what is in store for them.
TAKE VIDEO CAMERAS, FREEPERS!!! ALWAYS!!! :-)
Be sure to bring along the actual bill text of those lines and sections also, with a clear understanding of the lawyer speak translation. This will be for the smartass types with cameras who will “get in your face” like Dear Leader says.
It’s good to know yourself. :) Stay Safe.
A big BUMP to you. You're absolutely right. Read the bill and you will find many discrepancies with Fleckenstein's list. He did those of us opposed to nobamacare a tremendous disservice by publishing that list without doing detailed research on each item and publishing same. Shame on him.
Pg 59 is one of the most obvious. This part of the bill has to do with electronic payments being made by insurance companies to the provider (doctor). It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with private bank accounts. If you read just item C on this page it really looks like the Feds are gonna be tromping all over you bank account. But if you read this entire section of the bill, pgs 57-62, you'll see the context you'll understand the error.
Even Rush has spread this baloney on his program.
We are NOT doing ourselves a favor by spreading these misconceptions.
FWIW, you'll notice a reference to "X12 Version 5010 transaction standards" at the top of page 59. X12 is an ANSI standard having to do with the transmission of electronic healthcare claims and payments for same. X12 grew out of the HIPAA legislation that Congress passed in the late 1990s (1996 IIRC). So this is nothing new. If you'd like to read an "English" version of this part of the nobamacare bill, read page 4 from this document from 2002.
MUST READ BUMP AND BOOKMARK
This is critical- seen all the union goonery erupt?
Cell phone cameras, small video cameras- anything to document this anarchy.
COMPLETE WITH THEIR OWN DR MENGELE, THE HOMOSEXUAL EZEKIEL EMMANUELE.
STOP THE SOCIALISTS BEFORE RED CREEPY SOB'S LIKE THIS DECIDE WHETHER YOU AND YOUR FAMILY LIVE OR DIE
He’s still using floppy disks? How old is this photo?
My first question is about what is not in the RAT Health Care Plan: Where is the provision that requires Members of Congress, their staff, and other federal employees to give up their current health care plan and enroll in 0bamacare? If 0bamacare is not good enough for you and your family, then why should we be forced to join the plan.
Anyone planning to go to Arlen Specter’s meeting in Centre County next week? I hear it’s at 8:30 AM on Wednesday at the Penn Stater Hotel.
That woman’s story was proven to be untruthful..
Perhaps you can ask mods to remove it.
I did. Thank you.
Hydrogen sulphide gas (manure gas) smells like rotten eggs (very dangerious stuff, can kill when concentrated), butyric acid smells like rancid butter and soaks into a porous surface, it is the devil to clean up (avoid getting any on your body or clothes/shoes!)
Well thanks for that tip on the dangers of gag gifts.
Please also be aware of HR 676 which Conyers and Kucinich co-authored. Is medicare for all.
Just in case they try a bait and switch thingy.
Now, now. That kind of prank will get you an arrest and a hazmat team. Don’t go there.
Ya better roll the men in the moon suits then, as they vile stench being emitted by your corrupt government non-representative representatives is enough to choke off an entire open air stadium.
Check into this, and report back.
I think that’s a good idea. WE change the venue and the rules. Why walk into a Town Hall Meeting that is rife with thugs? Let’s host something on our terms. The Congressman can come. Or not.
O that’s absolute genius. Our own town hall, public. I would like to submit this idea to my tea party folks.