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Talk Radio Gets Angrier as its Revenues Drop
New Majoirty ^ | August 7, 2009 | Tim Mak

Posted on 08/07/2009 8:48:32 AM PDT by DanZanRyu

Conservative talk radio has never been more angry and extreme than today. You might think that’s a response to the Obama presidency. But even more, conservative talkers are responding to a collapse in advertising revenues.

According to Scott Fybush, the proprietor of North East Radio Watch, talk radio has lost 30-40% of its ad revenues over the past two years.

Further, in an interview with a talk radio trade publication, Talkers Magazine, late last year, Talk Radio Networks CEO Mark Masters said: “2008 will be known as the year that weak syndicated programs began dying off in droves,” adding that “it has only just begun.”

In this environment, radio hosts believe that anger is their only path to survival. “If you’re not the most extreme person on the radio or making the most outrageous headlines,” says Fybush, “there is going to be some portion of the base that is going to ignore you and move onto someone who is more extreme.”

One of the most civil voices in talk radio, Michael Medved, explains the economic pressure upon the industry. He told NewMajority: “In this [economic] environment, you have something of a push to be outrageous, to be on the fringe, because what you’re desperately competing for is… P-1 listeners [those who tune in most frequently]. The percentage of people on the fringe who are P-1s is quite high,” he explained. As a result, talk radio hosts are feeling more pressure than usual to yell harder, scream louder, and insult further. Talk shows “are fighting for an ever- smaller pie, [which means that] you’ve got to be even louder about it because you’re trying to get the attention of an ever-smaller niche,” said Medved.

All these factors exacerbate the existing negative tendencies of conservative news talk radio. Michael Harrison, editor of Talkers Magazine, notes that “news talk radio has traditionally been a street medium… [that employs] the language and emotions and attitudes that one would hear on the street, by the fence, in the schoolyard.” Of course, schoolyard emotions evoke schoolyard results: a downwards descent into name-calling and fringe politics. Talk radio’s fascination with the “birther” movement is the logical end point.

As conservative politics attempts to reach out and rebuild, the incentives for conservative radio hosts point in exactly the opposite direction. The fact of the matter is that the survival of news talk radio “depends on ratings and revenue, not on getting people elected, or even on bring right,” says Harrison. If the economy worsens, expect more venom on your AM dial.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agitprop; hushrush; pravdamedia; rushbashing; talkradio; wheresthebarfalert; whinytim
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1 posted on 08/07/2009 8:48:32 AM PDT by DanZanRyu
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To: DanZanRyu

Talk radio gets angrier as America at large becomes angrier.


2 posted on 08/07/2009 8:49:43 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: DanZanRyu

invalidated at the title.


3 posted on 08/07/2009 8:50:38 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: DanZanRyu
Wonder what Rush has to say about this?

I remember when Florida Orange Growers Association and Snapple used to advertise on his program. We bought plenty of both products until the leftists and the homosexuals complained and they cancelled.

Sales of Snapple fell drastically because it's such a mediocre product that we, and no doubt others, bought it just because it sponsored Limbaugh's three hours.

4 posted on 08/07/2009 8:52:45 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: DanZanRyu

Correlation does not imply causation.


5 posted on 08/07/2009 8:52:50 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: DanZanRyu

Rush’s revenues are at an all time high.

How are the revenues at Frum’s little site?


6 posted on 08/07/2009 8:52:55 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: DanZanRyu

I wonder why they used the last 2-year period? It would be interesting to see the numbers since January 20.


7 posted on 08/07/2009 8:53:03 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: DanZanRyu
NewMajority.com is a site edited by David Frum.

Any questions?

8 posted on 08/07/2009 8:53:29 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid.)
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To: DanZanRyu

Liberal talk shows went busto when the economy was doing well.


9 posted on 08/07/2009 8:54:00 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: DanZanRyu

Ping me when Rush has to steal from the Boy’s and Girl’s Club to support his show.


10 posted on 08/07/2009 8:54:47 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DanZanRyu

WHERE’S THE BARF ALERT/


11 posted on 08/07/2009 8:55:03 AM PDT by Stayfree (REWARD FOR OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE.COM)
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To: DanZanRyu

And what has happened to Goofy Left Radio???

Here’s one:

D.C. Station Dumps Its Failing Liberal ‘Obama 1260’ Talk Format
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2009/02/02/d-c-station-dumps-its-failing-liberal-obama-1260-talk-format


12 posted on 08/07/2009 8:55:23 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a Daffy Duck)
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To: DanZanRyu
Conservative talk radio has never been more angry and extreme than today.

Angry, and justifiably. But extreme? Only if one considers the Constitution and advocacy of limited government extreme.

[conservative] talk radio hosts are feeling more pressure than usual to yell harder, scream louder, and insult further.

As opposed to liberal talk show hosts, who've always been soft spoken and polite. /sarc

13 posted on 08/07/2009 8:55:55 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: DanZanRyu

I thought this was going to be a piece on the Air America talk host (Mike Malloy or Mallory or some fool name) who said he was hoping to watch Glenn Beck succumb to the same depression that had brought other family members to commit suicide. He said that if Glenn Beck killed himself on air, it would be YouTube’s highest viewed clip.


14 posted on 08/07/2009 8:56:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: DanZanRyu
According to Scott Fybush, the proprietor of North East Radio Watch, talk radio has lost 30-40% of its ad revenues over the past two years.

So your only sources for this are Leftist clown propaganda outlets? Hate to disillusion you but Everyone's revenue, including your beloved Government's, is down 30-40%. That what is know in economic terms as a "recession".

Nice try but we know propaganda when we see it around here.

15 posted on 08/07/2009 8:56:44 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Obamanomics: we have to destroy the US Economy in order to save it!)
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To: DanZanRyu
Scott Fybush, the proprietor of North East Radio Watch

Woooop-dee-doo...a little pissant nobody...but yet he has the inside track on the downfall of Rush,Hannity and Mark Levin. Sheesh.
16 posted on 08/07/2009 8:57:36 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Time to CLEAN HOUSE (AND Senate!!!) Kick their butts to the curb!!)
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To: DanZanRyu

Barf alert needed


17 posted on 08/07/2009 8:58:11 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DanZanRyu
According to Scott Fybush, the proprietor of North East Radio Watch, talk radio has lost 30-40% of its ad revenues over the past two years.

OK... the url for this "source" is fybush.com... of course they would say that conservative talk radio shows are losing ad revenues...

18 posted on 08/07/2009 8:58:11 AM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Funny thing about Air America. First they steal taxpayer dollars from a childrens’ charity and then they steal the vote.

And Randi Rhodes made several on air death threats against President Bush.

Conservative talk radio has NEVER been as “angry” as the rhetoric you’ll hear on Left Wing hate radio.


19 posted on 08/07/2009 8:58:12 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: DanZanRyu

As a casualty of the radio industry, I can say that sales and advertising revenue is down across the board from country to hip-hop. Not just on talk stations.

When you listen to any station and you hear back to back
PSA’s and 1-800-Buy-Our-Crap ads, that tells you the station has not sold all of their available inventory. Also, if music stations are running more ‘commercial-free’ hours, same thing. They ain’t doing it for your listening pleasure. :)


20 posted on 08/07/2009 8:58:25 AM PDT by Wife of D
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To: gimme1ibertee
"Radio watch". Does he report "fishy" details to the White House?


21 posted on 08/07/2009 8:59:41 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: DanZanRyu; I Buried My Guns; the invisib1e hand; IbJensen; La Lydia; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; ...

I suspect if you add in the revenue of ErrAmerica then the averages across the spectrum might show such a decline.


22 posted on 08/07/2009 8:59:46 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: DanZanRyu
Talk about spin. They may have dropped from stellar to only good. The libs in the MSM are running billion dollar deficits and getting worse by the day. The Alphabet networks can't even sell their adds in prime time. A better headline would be recession hurts add sales, conservatives less so then liberals.
23 posted on 08/07/2009 8:59:50 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: DanZanRyu
LOL. Really? Not surprising they'd talk to Medved. Dear Michael brought us the “only Republican that could win” last year. And here we are, wheel cranked to the hard left, headed for the cliff. I use to listen to Medved. Now it's Rush all the time. I only listen to Rush now because he's in full press against our new commie prez. Michael does a mean movie review though.
24 posted on 08/07/2009 9:00:24 AM PDT by throwback
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To: a fool in paradise

And I don’t recall any late night shows putting “Snipers Wanted” over a picture of Obama.


25 posted on 08/07/2009 9:00:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DanZanRyu

Since you posted this patently false article without a “Barf Alert”, should it be assumed that you agree with its content?


26 posted on 08/07/2009 9:00:42 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Cubestat estimates for NewMajority.com:
Website Worth: $9,914.13

Daily Pageviews: 4,527

Daily Ads Revenue: $13.58

Epic fail.
27 posted on 08/07/2009 9:01:02 AM PDT by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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To: La Lydia

Did you read Freakanomics?


28 posted on 08/07/2009 9:02:27 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: DanZanRyu

I like Michael Medvid, but he is such a simpleton ass hat clown sometimes.

Here he provides the requisite sound-bite to be utilized in this leftist screed. And if it isn’t a leftist’s screed, it ought to be.

Folks are angry today, because the government is usurping it’s authority in a manner that has never been seen before in the United States. Medvid attributes the ‘anger’ to a method to attract new listeners. It never dawns on him that this anger could be the result of a government that has never been so out of control.

The lefties and the lunar right can gloss over what is taking place here, mischaracterize it all they like, but it is a grass roots example of folks who simply are not going to take it lying down any longer.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can misread the tea leaves so miserably, when the truth is staring them right in the face.

Medvid, quit playing into the left’s hands. Good grief.


29 posted on 08/07/2009 9:02:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Our Founding Fathers were the first birthers: See Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: DanZanRyu

If that’s true, then Air America hosts should be rabid and destroying their studios daily.


30 posted on 08/07/2009 9:03:32 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: DanZanRyu
"conservative talkers are responding to a collapse in advertising revenues"

Really? a Collapse?

Truth or Propaganda?

31 posted on 08/07/2009 9:03:49 AM PDT by two23 (czars are for commies)
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To: throwback

Medved also says that it hurts conservativism to call Obama’s policies “socialist”.

Of course Michael Medved was Hillary’s friend in college and worked on staff for one of the farthest left congressmen in the 1970s.

He has moved towards the right but he’s a moderate at best. He just doesn’t swallow all of the liberal kool aid these days.


32 posted on 08/07/2009 9:04:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: throwback

Michael Medved also believes there are still ghost armies on Civil War battlefields and believes in Bigfoot.

He doesn’t have a lot of room to point out “kooky” beliefs.


33 posted on 08/07/2009 9:04:51 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Wife of D

Exactly! It’s across the board. And guess who buys most of those PSA spots? The U.S. government, and the propaganda in those spots has gone through the roof.

When listening the WLS on the internet, all they play are PSA spots during their commercials. (at least they were a few years back) I’ve never heard so much leftist suck up in my life.


34 posted on 08/07/2009 9:04:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Our Founding Fathers were the first birthers: See Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: numberonepal

No. What does it say about talk radio?


35 posted on 08/07/2009 9:05:00 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: DanZanRyu

RE :”As conservative politics attempts to reach out and rebuild, the incentives for conservative radio hosts point in exactly the opposite direction. The fact of the matter is that the survival of news talk radio “depends on ratings and revenue, not on getting people elected, or even on bring right,” says Harrison”

Missed here :
1) Talk radio get more popular as their side loses power(which is why you want to always question what you hear) , and less popular as their side has power but flounders
2) Talk radio has never seen more listeners because of #1
3) revenues down simply because commercials everywere are down with Obama economy nothing to do with number of listeners which is up.


36 posted on 08/07/2009 9:05:09 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: DanZanRyu

They are, well, simply lying.


37 posted on 08/07/2009 9:05:18 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: sam_paine
Left-wing radio doesn't have a big enough footprint (or listeners) to make a difference. Revenue is down for all media, because the economy is in a serious recession - when consumer spending drops, there is less money available for advertising.

This is a RINO-inspired hit piece, by which elitists in tassel loafers allow themselves to be used by hard-core leftists in order to stick it to those Bible-and-gun-toting Palinites.

38 posted on 08/07/2009 9:07:20 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid.)
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To: DanZanRyu

Mak works for David Frum’s New Majority — which should be called the Old Minority.


39 posted on 08/07/2009 9:07:36 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: andy58-in-nh

Ok. That makes more sense.


40 posted on 08/07/2009 9:08:34 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: DanZanRyu
One of the most civil voices in talk radio, Michael Medved, explains the economic pressure upon the industry. ... you’ve got to be even louder about it because you’re trying to get the attention of an ever-smaller niche,” said Medved.

The Medved mindset is what brought us to this point of ruination, much like the mindset that led to millions of Jews mindlessly shuffling onto the trains to go to their certain slaughter.

Medved is a prime example of people completely unaware of their current position in the flow of history. Dead people walking.

41 posted on 08/07/2009 9:11:42 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: DanZanRyu

Let’s just think about this a minute...

Is radio ad revenue overall up or down? Has radio advertizing revenue been affected by the global recession?

Might as accurately say that hip-hop music programming is suffering an ad revenue drop.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics....this blogger is so lazy he doesn’t even try to provide actual data.


42 posted on 08/07/2009 9:11:43 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: andy58-in-nh
On a local late night am, a caller who works UPS distribution says he's never seen such a low volume of packages.

Little bits of info like this say more to me than the pretty little madeup newswhores.

43 posted on 08/07/2009 9:12:40 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Mojave

He’s not doing it for the money. He’s doing it because it’s so awesome to brag about being a Bigtime Blogger when you’re trying to impress single urban women in trendy bistros.


44 posted on 08/07/2009 9:15:14 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (It's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Ya Rush is staving to death. Did you see him on the Greta interview? He was so skinny! Poor Man! ! ! LOL


45 posted on 08/07/2009 9:15:19 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: La Lydia
What does it say about talk radio?

Nothing, but it is about economic causation and correlations.

46 posted on 08/07/2009 9:23:46 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: DanZanRyu

Methinks someone is suffering from delusions.


47 posted on 08/07/2009 9:26:19 AM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Bulwinkle

In Boston it got taken off due to low ratings in 2006. Late last year it came back, only because someone did brokered time: PAID a mostly sports station to run it. The result:
a morning show that even libs are decrying as boring, then
stuff like Notfunnie Miller, Thom Fartmann, and Big Dumb
Ed Schulz.

http://www.radio-info.com/site/markets/grid/boston

ratings: the station, WWZN, does not even show up (though maybe they don’t subscribe to ratings?) Meanwhile WBZ with
conservative Dan Rea at night: #2 overall. Conservative
WRKO: #4 overall. Boston.


48 posted on 08/07/2009 9:26:43 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: DanZanRyu

LOL - this is frickin’ hilarious!

Left-wing talk radio defines the words niche and hate-filled, yet not a single, solitary mention in this entire article - only the ‘fringe, kooky’ Conservatives get that honor.

Can’t get any more biased than that, can you?


49 posted on 08/07/2009 9:27:39 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Impeach the sumbeech)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Here’s the real story; ratings for the top hosts (and stations) have skyrocketed in recent months, for a couple of reasons.

First, with the coronation of the “annointed one” (and the GOP essentially leaderless), talk hosts are filling the vaccum and providing a rallying point for conservatives.

Secondly, Arbitron (the radio ratings firm) recently introduced a new “people meter” system that provides better audience data than ever before. Measurements from the people meter show that talk stations had been under-represented under the old “diary” system. As a result, talk stations have posted higher ratings in most markets. Look at the numbers for KFI in Los Angeles; WLS in Chicago and WABC in New York, to name a few. In most cases, their ratings are running a half-point to a full point higher than under the old system.

So why are revenues down? It’s called the recession. When the economy tanks, ad budgets are among the first to be slashed. Advertisers are spending less money across the board; in fact, the TV networks are having to slash rates to attract sponsors this fall.

I was talking with a sales rep earlier this week for the Rush affiliate in Norfolk, VA (WNIS). He told me that Rush is the highest-rated program on any outlet in their five-station cluster. Rush is the primary reason the station is now #2 in the Norfolk market, and it’s the only “non-urban” station in the Top 5.


50 posted on 08/07/2009 9:37:07 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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