Skip to comments.The bullets are back
Posted on 08/07/2009 2:03:24 PM PDT by marktwain
My brother and I attended a gun show last weekend and I have good news. Bullets are back. Not only was I able to buy all the 9mm rounds I wanted, but my brother found adequate supplies of .380 ammunition as well. Stacks of .223 ammo were also in evidence. Since our government hasn't changed in six months, what has changed? Economics 101 tells us that the marginal utility of the next bullet will be less than the last one. In other words, if I have no bullets to shoot in my pistol, I really, really want the first 10 bullets I can buy at whatever price I find them. The 500th bullet, I will shop around for the best price, and after 1,000 I will probably stop (I think). Manufacturers have been running flat-out since November of 2008, and have finally caught up. Enough Americans have enough ammunition that they feel they secure.
Since the government hasn't changed, why do they feel secure? Is it because we all have 1,000 rounds of our preferred ammunition stockpiled and we can't conceive of a firefight where an additional 200 rounds would have made a difference? No, I think it is because we have renewed confidence in our fellow citizens' good sense. Poll after poll is showing renewed support for our basic right to keep and bear arms. We see efforts to curb gun ownership fall short of needed votes. We see efforts to raise money for the Brady Center in Chicago falling flat. We see regular citizens who haven't protested in their lives stepping out to join others at town hall meetings, TEA parties, and Obamacare rallies calling for less government intrusion in our lives. We are willing to take care of ourselves and our own. Stop spending money the country doesn't have and don't come taxing us for it. Gun ownership is, for many, the first step of taking care of ourselves and our own. It begins with personal safety and security and extends to our community and our state. Before the Great Society we relied on our families, our communities, and our churches to care for our less fortunate, not the federal government.
This is a resilient and generally optimistic country. The majority that sees the glass half full rather than half empty have begun to stand up. One indicator of that to me is piles of ammunition at a gun show.
The price of .223’s is about the same level pre-election.
500 for $200 is about standard.
Good, I always thought "Wizards" was a stupid name anyway.
I was able to get 2 100ct .45 auto again here in NY, but it was the only 2 boxes on the shelf..
Gunshows always seem to have plenty.
It’s still a little hit and miss around here.
Come back to me when you can find SS109s or 30’06 AP in large quantities cheaply...
I think demand is SATED, not saturated.
But, neither is the supply.
I’m seeing some Remington and even Federal XM109 in the stores, but for SEVEN BUCKS for a box of 20. This stuff used to run two to three bucks a box.
The prices will fall as the store start to stock up and the 7 BUCK boxes sit there collecting dust.
I saw XM193, which is the military-grade 55gr FMJ stuff coming out of Lake City.
Walmarts around my area still don’t have what’s really wanted...just the weird hunter calibers and shotgun shells....hardly no pistol ammo at all....lest you count 22 shorts as pistol ammo....
I am fixin’ to walk 50 yds to the range and waste 1k rounds..... Easy to do.....
Maybe not 1k, but dang close....
Easy to do....
We see efforts to curb gun ownership fall short of needed votes.
The recent defeat of the common sense Thune Amendment serves to indicate that this is not precisely the case, and vigilence is still required in relations with anti-Second Amendment forces.
I’ve fired 700 rounds in a day. My hand was bleeding, I needed some ibuprofen and had a big smile on my face.
I saw .38, 9mm, .45 ACP, and .40, as well as most of the calibers in "self protection" rounds.
I’m still short several thousands rounds and probably need an additional weapon, which will need ammo...
So, I’m not done buying yet - but prices are high and I still have problems with supply.
Not all .223’s are created equal. I only buy Q3131 and its $500/1000.
.380’s still in short supply and damned expensive @ $32.00/box of 50 in the local gun store with a 1 box/day limit. None online unless you want to pay $64/box of 50 at Cheaper Than Dirt. I’m having hell getting enough to practice and take my concealed carry quals on the 22nd.
I think you may be right. I just picked up 1k of .223 55gr prvi and 1k of lake city .556 62gr green tip. Sportsmans guide has plenty as does The-Armory.com. Used coupons at Sportsmans, saved a bunch. Do I have enough? perhaps for me but wife has her own stash requirements. We do shoot a lot.
I came across this last week.
Hope it helps.
Actually, it’s “rounds” or “cartridges.” Bullets are part of a round (unless you’re doing black powder).
Join us in Seagoville in October!!!!
4th annua Texas Cowboy Shoot......
My last gunshow was in late June and ammo supplies were not good, but dramatically better. Certainly no where near pre-run quantities, prices were not cheap, but not exorbitant.
Overall better, but not out of the woods yet.
They are making them as fast as they can but some people might have stopped looking for a while.
I would so love to go. I live pretty close but alas... I probably won’t be able to.
I haven't been able to find any .38, except for the personal protection rounds in months. The last time I could find it semi available was last February.
The supply “might” be normalizing, but prices still seem high.
Ya’ll are SOOOOO welcome.....
Seagoville, Oct. 10.... Be there or be metrosexual......
I think you got lucky
There was one big box (250) left. There were two 45 normal size boxes (50) left till I claimed them.
At this point, I’ll even consider buying Wolf if I find it. That’s saying something.
I love Cabella’s, living about 30 miles away from one, but it is extremely expen$ive.
They do have beautiful stuff!
I won’t say everything is okay, but I’ve noticed that some of the powders that I couldn’t get at any price a few months ago are at least available. I’m sure the invisible hand of Adam Smith is at work too.
Went to my local gun store just today. Lots of ammo.Picked up some .223 and 7.62x39.As much as i wanted.500 for 185 and 500 for 195.While i was there i also ordered a sling for my Colt AR-15. And this is in MASS.of all places.
PS Its nice to be back.Haven’t posted in about 5yrs.it seems like. Been very sick but feeling better.
Not this one. I still need to get the big load!
Isn’t it nice to be able to walk to your own range? Mine is also about 50 yards from my back door. Love it! Will shoot tomorrow.
I would be happy to pay 7 bucks for Lake City right now. I doubt we will ever see it for $3.00/20 box any time soon, if ever.
36.5 cents a round. That is outrageous. The 100# Remington white box used to be $6.00 just a few years ago and the case price was discounted.
Sheesh, I thought I was getting a deal at Walmart, about $14.00 for 50 rnds. of the Winchester
still no 38 specials to be had at wal mart.
Usually can find 9mm there all the time now, but only occasionally can I find 45 acp.
I’ll stop when I have 4,000 rounds of 5.56,1K rounds of 38 special and at least 5K rounds of 9mm P. Right now I think Ive got near 3K rounds of 9mm and maybe 800 rounds of 45 acp
I want to have enough on hand to be able to not worry if the gun stores are closed for a year without me worrying about it.
Folks, Ive preached this many times. Get yourself a ruger 10-22 and 4-5 of the aftermarket 30 round 22 mags. If you practice dilligently you have a decent self defense carbine for 10-50 foot distances.
Also, buy all the 12 ga birdshot you can lay your hands on. My short 18.5 inch remington 870, loaded with birdshot, will ruin the rest of a burglar’s life. Ive got two dedicated home defense scatterguns and my dad has one of his own, and a 20 ga legal short bbl mossberg pump for back up.
You can always find a box of shotgun shells, no matter where the flea market or yard sale is.
Even worse than I thought.
I wend by Gander Mountain and saw a box of 20 XM193 for $14.99.
That’s 75 cents a round!
Somebody will pay it, or those prices will slowly drop.
A few months ago, that’s all Wal-Mart had in stock.
Gander Mt. Advertises all these great ammo prices, but when you get there, it’s always sold out.
Occasionally, I can find some 9mm ball ammo, but not often. Also, since Barry was elected, the cost of ammo, AR-15s and spare magazines has gone through the roof.
The 9mm 31 round glock mags went from $35 the week before the election to $59 two weeks after.
I’d rather buy my accessories on line than to have to stand in line at a gyp joint like Gander.
Glock itself is responsible for the factory mag price increases, mostly.
I was buying Glock mags for $15 each or less through wholesalers, but Glock increased its factory pricing. I paid about $35 each for Glock 19 mags and a lot of dealers no longer get police pricing from Glock.
After 1000 he stops buying?
Almost the same order - 3 months on backorder, but I got what I ordered...