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Honduras Has Won
IBD Editorials ^ | August 7, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 08/07/2009 5:55:33 PM PDT by Kaslin

Diplomacy: In a quiet victory for a tiny democracy, U.S. buttinskies have stopped trying to restore a dictator to power in South America. Tiny Honduras is winning its fight for freedom.


In a welcome about-face, the State Department told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee's Richard Lugar, R-Ind., in a letter Tuesday that the U.S. would no longer threaten sanctions on Honduras for ousting its president, Mel Zelaya, last June 28.

Nor will it insist on Zelaya's return to power. As it turns out, the U.S. Senate can't find any legal reason why the Honduran Supreme Court's refusal to let Zelaya stay in office beyond the time allowed by Honduran law constitutes a "military coup."

This marks a shift. The U.S. at first supported Zelaya, a man who had been elected democratically but didn't govern that way. Now they're reaching out to average Hondurans, the real democrats.

Sure, the U.S. continues to condemn Zelaya's ouster and still seeks mediation of the dispute through Costa Rican President Oscar Arias. But no U.S. sanctions means Hondurans have won.

Things could have worked out differently. Venezuela's Hugo Chavez first called for invading Honduras. That threat passed as it became clear Chavez couldn't project his power there.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bholatinamerica; commieinthewh; communism; diplomacy; honduras; ibd; micheletti; resistance; zelaya
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1 posted on 08/07/2009 5:55:33 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Yay!!
Go Honduras!


2 posted on 08/07/2009 5:56:31 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: bareford101; BerniesFriend; blaveda; Bookwoman; Celeste732; dsc; FrdmLvr; FreedomPoster; ...

3 posted on 08/07/2009 5:56:53 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

So that means the community organizers are on their way to Honduras??


4 posted on 08/07/2009 5:58:02 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kaslin
The U.S. at first supported Zelaya,

Hey, The Obama administration supported Zelaya. Let's not paint all Americans as dictator supporting, socialist thugs.

5 posted on 08/07/2009 5:58:06 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Kaslin

Honduras wins, and Obama LOSES!

It’s a good day.


6 posted on 08/07/2009 5:58:07 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Kaslin

Score one for the good guys. Thanks to all of those who got the truth out. One of my favorite journalists, Mary Anastasia O’Grady, of the Wall Street Journal being one of them. Also kudos to the Hondurans who obviously have a collective set of brass ones.


7 posted on 08/07/2009 5:59:59 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Senator E. Bayh replied to my email with the standard Obama party line ,calling Zelaya’s ouster by the Honduran Supreme Court and Congress, a coup.


8 posted on 08/07/2009 6:06:07 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Kaslin

One more Major Defeat for OBOZO HUSSEIN, HIS COMMUNIST ADMINISTRATION and Their Close ALLIES and Bosom Buddies, Hugo Chavez, Castro, Ortega Quaddaffi, Imanutjob, OsamaBin Ladin amd the rest of the Tin Hat Dictators and Terrorists around the the World!


9 posted on 08/07/2009 6:08:59 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Kaslin

I sure hope this is true. Time will tell as I don’t trust those in the White House.


10 posted on 08/07/2009 6:09:34 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: vladimir998

Anytime that arrogant mealy-mouthed lying p o s loses is a good day


11 posted on 08/07/2009 6:11:00 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

The State Department? THE STATE DEPARTMENT? Doesn’t Hillary run the State Department? Hmmm.....bucking the boss.


12 posted on 08/07/2009 6:13:38 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: Kaslin

Just like Gates and the cop, Obama jumped in without really
knowing what he was doing, now the rest of the government
has to figure out a way to recover for a foreign policy
screwup.

Beer at the White house won’t work any more.


13 posted on 08/07/2009 6:14:22 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: hoosierham

What’s been amazing in this whole episode is, despite attempts to portray what the Hondurans did as a “coup”, it was done absolutely by the letter and the spirit of their constitution. In essence, they couldn’t have done this any cleaner or more by the book. Unlike our country, for example, when we don’t know if our president is a natural born citizen or not, as our constitution clear states and requires.


14 posted on 08/07/2009 6:15:12 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Kaslin

finally ... thanks for the good news


15 posted on 08/07/2009 6:16:17 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: Kaslin

Wow, this is a shift. Zelaya is in Mexico, and Obama will be there this weekend. He was so sure Mexico and Obama would come to his aid.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2310907/posts?page=1#1

Hopes Pinned on Obama Zelaya stated clearly where international pressure needed to come from at this stage of restoring his government.

“If President Barack Obama really wants to turn back this coup, these coup leaders will last all of five minutes because the economy of Honduras, all our military, commercial and migration activities, depend on the United States.” Emphasizing how the Honduran coup is a test case for the new government, he added, “We’ll see the extent of his sincerity, force and democratic conviction.”

Zelaya explained that the reason he agreed to enter into the mediation process under Costa Rican President Oscar Arias was to make the U.S. government continued to play a role in returning him to office.

“I recognize the force of the international community. When Sec. Hillary Clinton proposed Oscar Arias to me, I agreed because I wanted the U.S. to play a leading role.”

As he’s done everywhere else, Zelaya differentiated between the support from the Obama adminstration, which he did call “lukewarm”, and forces in the U.S. government that openly support the coup.

Zelaya announced Mexican President Felipe Calderon offered support and agreed to discuss the Honduran political crisis with President Obama at the Summit of North American Leaders. Calderon received the ousted Honduran president with full state honors.

Zelaya continued once the shouting died down. “[Calderon] will be with President Obama in Guadalajara and the force with which the United States decides to take effective actions will also depend on this meeting.” He said Mexicans must watch the talks between Calderon and Obama, because they will have an impact “on the destiny of Latin America.”


16 posted on 08/07/2009 6:17:00 PM PDT by AuntB (Tired of Left/right coast globalist party power brokers? How 'bout THE HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY??)
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To: Kaslin
Honduras was a perfect example of a democracy at work and our der leader was too stupid to understand it. Now he wants to take over our health care. I don't think so.
17 posted on 08/07/2009 6:19:34 PM PDT by kempo
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To: AuntB

Yeah, Zero’s disappointed a bunch of people. Even poor, *sniff, sniff* Peggy Noonan feels betrayed.


18 posted on 08/07/2009 6:20:47 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Kaslin

I credit putting this in front of our p.o.ed people at a time of crisis in our own country where the cream of american communism is hanging out for all to see, acting in a manner that has been nothing short of treasonous. They will try to go for OUR jugulars first here. Our people will have to stand firm against the anti-constitutionalist cadre in washington. We all did a huge amount of work to shine a light on the desparate party of commies in washington and expose them to the eye of the public. Many True Americans are now solely relying on our web reporting to give them the facts hidden by the commie press.


19 posted on 08/07/2009 6:21:22 PM PDT by februus
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To: AuntB

In other words, he is appealing to foreign powers and asking them to intervene in his country to place him in power there.

That sounds a lot like treason.

He is asking for the US to exert economic power, along with his neighboring countries, and he has tried to enlist military force from the Venezuelans and Nicaraguans. Yes, that really smells like treason.


20 posted on 08/07/2009 6:21:25 PM PDT by marron
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To: Richard Kimball

“Yeah, Zero’s disappointed a bunch of people. Even poor, *sniff, sniff* Peggy Noonan feels betrayed.”

I saw that...silly woman!


21 posted on 08/07/2009 6:21:42 PM PDT by AuntB (Tired of Left/right coast globalist party power brokers? How 'bout THE HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY??)
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To: Kaslin

Good. I’m glad.


22 posted on 08/07/2009 6:22:36 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Spread my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: Kaslin
As it turns out, the U.S. Senate can't find any legal reason why the Honduran Supreme Court's refusal to let Zelaya stay in office beyond the time allowed by Honduran law constitutes a "military coup."

Duh! everyone in FR knew THAT at the beginning! You could have saved a bazillion bucks by asking us first...

Talk about not finding your butt with both hands...

23 posted on 08/07/2009 6:23:29 PM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: vladimir998
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24 posted on 08/07/2009 6:27:12 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: John123; All

It’s acutally amazing to me (and frightening as well) how the majority of the US media portrayed what was happening in Honduras as a “military coup”. That was their story and they were stick’ng to it.


25 posted on 08/07/2009 6:30:45 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: marron

Zelaya probably has a lot of enemies now - bet he don’t sleep so good at night.


26 posted on 08/07/2009 6:31:11 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Kaslin

Thought I would never typed these words - however it appears that Hillary C. is largely responsible for this turn-around towards Honduras


27 posted on 08/07/2009 6:32:10 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: khnyny

I can only hope we have one!


28 posted on 08/07/2009 6:32:28 PM PDT by bfree (Obamie the Commie-- FBO)
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To: VRWCTexan

What proof do we have of that? Nice, if that’s the case though.


29 posted on 08/07/2009 6:36:52 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: Kaslin
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Tuesday, September 2, 2008

Meet Fidel Odinga


Yes, his complete name is Fidel Castro Odinga. He is the eldest son of Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga and a first cousin to Barack Hussein Obama. The late Obama Sr. was the prime minister's maternal uncle. Although Obama Sr. was educated at Harvard and Odinga in East Germany, uncle and nephew were friends and political allies.

Today it is Barack Obama and Raila Odinga who have formed a transcontinental political alliance. In fact, Senator Obama, in an unprecedented breech of protocal, went to Kenya in 2006 to campaign on his cousin's behalf in that country's presidential election.

Raila lost the election when a secret pact was revealed with Kenya's Muslim Brotherhood to institute sharia law in all the country's courts in exchange for their support of his candidacy. This is all the more remarkable because it is Christianity (66%), not Islam (10%), which is the largest religion in Kenya, and English common law, not the Koran, which is the basis for its legal system. Or, perhaps, it is not so remarkable, after all, since both the Odingas and Obamas belong to the 10 percent.

Although not an observant Muslim, Odinga does represent Moammar Qaffafy's oil interests in southern Africa, which may better explain his willingness to tranform his non-Muslim country into a Muslim state as Idi Amin did in Uganda when he was the recipient of the colonel's largesse 30 years ago.

Odinga's connection to Barack Obama, however, has proved more useful in his political career than Qadaffy's billions. It was in the expectation of Obama's election as president, and to ingratiate himself to him, that Odinga's political rival offered him the premiership as a consolation prize.

When Prime Minister Odinga named his son "Fidel Castro," he broke with Kenyan tradition as he should have named him for the boy's grandfather Oginga Odinga (the Kenyan "Fidel Castro"), a Marxist-Leninist revolutionary who led an unsuccessful coup to topple the government of Kenya on behalf of the Soviets.

It is not known whether Oginga Odinga's brother-in-law, Obama Sr., was involved in the coup, though given the tribal character of politics in Kenya it would be difficult to imagine that he wasn't at least aware of it or wouldn't have profited by it even if he didn't contribute to it. Indeed, that may have been the reason for Obama Sr.'s failed political career in Kenya.

It is certainly ironic that Obama Sr.'s star eclipsed because of his relationship to Oginga Odinga, whereas his son Raila's rose because of his connection to Obama Jr.

We wonder how things might have turned out if Obama Sr., the Harvard-trained economist, had followed his cousin's example and named his American-born son "John Maynard Keynes Obama."


30 posted on 08/07/2009 6:37:54 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: Kaslin

Three cheers for Hondurans!!!


31 posted on 08/07/2009 6:38:21 PM PDT by hyperconservative (Live long and prosper, Free Republic!)
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To: Kaslin

Egg on Joker’s face!


32 posted on 08/07/2009 6:41:00 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ("Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.")
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To: hoosierham
From al-Reuters:

Lugar told Clinton he shared her support for mediation by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias in the month-old dispute over whether Zelaya should be allowed to return to his post.

But he also appealed to the State Department to provide a detailed clarification of U.S. policy to "interested Members" -- an apparent reference to several of his fellow Republicans, who charge Washington is trying to reinstate a left-wing government in Honduras.

According to the article, Senator Jim DeMint was among the "interested Members."

Are we to assume then that Lugar was not one of the "interested Members?"

It's difficult to tell the difference between our Dem senator and Rep senator.

33 posted on 08/07/2009 6:43:17 PM PDT by HoosierHawk (www.firstsundaymusic.com)
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To: khnyny

July 24th = Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday described ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya’s attempts to return to to his country as “reckless,” as Zelaya defied the threat of arrest.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/24/clinton-calls-zelaya-reckless-trying-return-honduras/
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Bill +Hillary Clintons lawyers helping Honduran miltary coup leaders
by Justin Raimondo Anti-war.com
Thursday Jul 30th, 2009 11:30 AM

http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2009/07/30/18613270.php

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She has also been attacked in Daily Kos articles for going against obama on this issue


34 posted on 08/07/2009 6:45:13 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: Kaslin

Per Reuters:

Obama says today that he still supports Zelaya return to power

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N07503526.htm

Let me see if I have this straight... Obama supports Zelaya, the State Department does not


35 posted on 08/07/2009 6:45:55 PM PDT by Selene
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To: Kaslin

Thank God. A little sanity.


36 posted on 08/07/2009 6:48:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Rome2000

Crimeny, that sounds like the script for “24”. Hollywood doesn’t have to really reach very far, do they?


37 posted on 08/07/2009 6:52:07 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: Selene

“”I can’t press a button and suddenly reinstate Mr Zelaya,” Obama said.”

I’d like to be able to press a button and make it 1981 with Ronald Reagan again.


38 posted on 08/07/2009 6:52:58 PM PDT by Sparko (I'll never be your pizza burnin')
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To: khnyny

A hard core communist is POTUS and the sheeple don’t have a clue.


39 posted on 08/07/2009 6:54:51 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Hussein Baraka Mook Kebba)
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To: VRWCTexan

Thanks.


40 posted on 08/07/2009 6:56:47 PM PDT by khnyny ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: AuntB

Calderon did not receive Zelaya with honors. He sent a minion to the airport to pick him up, in fact.

Mexico has no love for Chavez and Venezuela, which actually sent troops who tried to infiltrate the Southern Mexican jungles and “encourage” the Zapatistas a couple of years ago, leading Mexico to expel Venezuela’s diplomats.

Obama, on the other hand, is another story. But I think he’s got other things on his plate right now, like stomping on us, and he’ll get around to Honduras later.


41 posted on 08/07/2009 6:59:31 PM PDT by livius
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To: don-o; HonCitizen

Good news ping!


42 posted on 08/07/2009 7:06:15 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Kaslin
Score one for the good guys. Godspeed Honduras, Our goberment may not have supported you, but many many Americans did. Way to stand your ground!!!
43 posted on 08/07/2009 7:10:55 PM PDT by skully (The Dems are home on break....Time to isolate and mock...turn the tables on the Aholinsky's)
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To: Kaslin

Outstanding!


44 posted on 08/07/2009 7:15:30 PM PDT by listenhillary (90% of our problems could be resolved with a government 10% of the size it is now.)
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To: Kaslin

This is a great victory for self-government in Honduras.

It is also a tribute to common-sense Americans who spoke out forcefully against our own socialist regime and made it politically impossible for them to move in concert with their fellow traveler Hugo Chavez to stamp out the rule of law and liberty.


45 posted on 08/07/2009 7:15:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A message to our elected representatives: "DON'T JUST STAND THERE, UNDO SOMETHING!")
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To: coconutt2000

You are exactly right, it was the left who supported the wannabe dictator


46 posted on 08/07/2009 7:26:03 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: marron

Impeach that SOP


47 posted on 08/07/2009 7:31:46 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: AuntB

I like what you said in the first sentence in post #1 in the other link


48 posted on 08/07/2009 7:34:16 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

IBD island of sanity BUMP!


49 posted on 08/07/2009 7:38:11 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaslin

SOP=SOB


50 posted on 08/07/2009 7:42:27 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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