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Obama Birth Story Unraveling - Mother In Univ Class In Seattle 15 Days After Obama Supposedly Born!
Dr. Jerome Corsi / Rusty Humphries Show

Posted on 08/08/2009 9:20:49 PM PDT by MindBender26

Edited on 08/08/2009 9:33:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: El Gato
Looks like that is what it says.

As the dating now appears, it doesn't really make a difference on trying to figure out where she was. My real interest was in Corsi's August 19 date for her presence in class--that's simply wrong. I now think its pretty clear that the August date Corsi was using comes from a misreading of the 9 for an 8 on the transcript--maybe by more than one person.

The way Washington kept its transcripts in that period was in a bound book and the binder pins kept you from getting the books clear open to see what was on the fold. The guy who wrote the letter Corsi was relying on may well have made that mistake.

351 posted on 08/09/2009 3:22:38 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: egfowler3

“Without the O, VP Biden does NOT exist in any way, fashion or form and no argument can make him exist. Any argument seeking to keep VP Biden only tries to minimize the damage the O has done to the Dem party and to keep what he has so far accomplished.”

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Sorry, but you ain’t got a leg to stand on, legally. The Veep is elected separately and holds the office in his own right.

After the 2006 GOP debacle, there was idiotic and idle speculation that Dubya might “fire” Cheney. It was idiotic and idle because the Veep holds office in his own right as per above and cannot be “fired”, only impeached.


352 posted on 08/09/2009 3:27:34 PM PDT by Redwood Bob
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To: El Gato
My understanding is that the baby need not be presented for registration in cases of birth not in a hospital. It was all done by paperwork.

I think that is also true. And that may have been the way it worked.

But if you see her back in Seattle on Mercer Island on the return from Kenya talking about how happy she is with her husband; and you see her next registering for classes at Washington, even in late September; when did she give up on him and what were the circumstances--or where did she go to give up on him?

353 posted on 08/09/2009 3:28:54 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: Fred Nerks
"If I had a baby, and requested that the extension course materials be made available to me to complete at home...might that be possible?"

It appears it may have been possible.

Distance Learning

354 posted on 08/09/2009 3:31:07 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences.)
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To: BP2
ABERCROMBIE READS THE 'LETTER' VIDEO.LINK

IMO the difference between what Abercrombie 'reads' and the 'letter' suggests that Abercrombie was 'winging it' ...

355 posted on 08/09/2009 3:50:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Spunky

Thanks. A little common sense goes a long way. To be locked into the idea that she had to BE at that address to complete her course work might very well prevent us from ascertaining where she MIGHT have been.

That she was living there (in a segregated area) rests only on the word of one person. I am troubled by the fact that the attendance record shows her as OBAMA.Stanley Ann Dunham.

The FOI letter in regard to the attendance shows her as only Stanley Ann Dunham.

The Polk Directory shows Anna Obama. Something is wrong or very sloppy.

Being able to complete the course work from another location opens the door.


356 posted on 08/09/2009 4:06:13 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Sloth

bttt


357 posted on 08/09/2009 4:08:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: rintense

I delivered babies for Vietnamese women who were back planting rice a hour later.... but the whole Obama story is still starting to unravel.

:)


358 posted on 08/09/2009 4:15:07 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never Kick Leftists When They Are Down. Let Them Halfway Back Up. You Get Much Better Leverage!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

“There has been speculation that Ann learned about his other wife in Kenya and left him for that reason. But that is completely contrary to the interview with Mary T., in which she said Ann told her that the baby’s father might have to take a Kenyan wife because of tribal obligations and that Ann was okay with that. In other words, Ann did not know that Barack Sr. already had taken a Kenyan wife.”

That’s assuming that (a) the babysitter remembers the details correctly, and/or is not lying, and/or (b) Anne wasn’t lying. Just because someone - especially 0bama’s mama - supposedly said something, doesn’t mean she or someone else wasn’t messing with the truth somewhere along the lines. If Anne had been in Kenya (not saying yea or nay, but looks like yea so far), she certainly would have known about the first wife.


359 posted on 08/09/2009 4:58:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Fred Nerks
Yes, and in re-constructing those events, here's how it might have happened:

Jan. 24 - Abercrombie give the speech at the Kapi‘olani Medical Center 100 year anniversary gala. There REALLY is NO letter. He writes the statement himself, perhaps based upon a much prior conversation with Obama, possibly generating the letter WITHOUT his permission.

Feb. 15 - approximately deadline for Inspire Magazine, published by The Foundations of Hawaii Pacific Health. They'd like a copy of the letter to appear in their spring edition on a related story about the gala. It's unclear if their editor creates the letter that appears, but likely does. This is probably the FIRST actual letter (LETTER #1).

March - the letter is re-created again, this time by the webmaster of the Kapi’olani Medical Center website. The webmaster probably does not have a copy of the letter that appeared in the newsletter, so he re-create his own. It stayed up until it was removed from the website in the first week of July (LETTER #2).

July 17, 2009 - after numerous requests by World Net Daily, Kapi’olani Medical Center is likely “supplied” a copy of the letter by the White House, AFTER THE FACT, that more or less matches the letter published in the magazine (LETTER #3).

It's CYA time for all involved — Abercrombie, Kapi’olani Medical Center & Obama. The hospital then releases the letter to WND. BTW, according to WND, White House Spokesman Gibbs STILL does not want to talk about any of the letters.
rotated - Obama Kapi'olani Letter, Inspire Magazine, Spring 2009 From archived website - Obama Kapi'olani Letter, Inspire Magazine, Spring 2009 cropped and laid flat - WND - Obama Kapi'olani Letter

Now, I could discount the SECOND version of the letter -- it appears to be a HTML-generated version of Abercrombie's Obama letter, perhaps by a webmaster. BUT the FIRST and THIRD versions should match.

And yet -- they don't match ...
WND vs Inspire Magazine - Obama Kapiolani Letters


360 posted on 08/09/2009 5:06:30 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: MindBender26

**Mother In Univ Class In Seattle 15 Days After Obama Supposedly Born!**

Hmmmm.


361 posted on 08/09/2009 5:06:58 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: CatOwner

I agree. Oblahblah’s ideals and legislative agenda should be more than enough to take back the house, and possibly the senate at midterms. The “average”(read REAL) Americans are fittin’ for a battle over the idiocy’s of their legislative reps. and heads will roll in ‘10.


362 posted on 08/09/2009 5:36:51 PM PDT by ping jockey (We have arrogant jerks for leaders and WE will pay the highest cost.)
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To: Fred Nerks; All

I don’t know where Stanley Anne was on Aug. 4 1961 although my vote so far goes for Canada. However I came across something very early this morning while I was watching TV trying to put myself to sleep. It is in regard to the other birth story—that of Stanley Anne herself. The official story is that she was named Stanley after her father because he wanted a boy so much that he gave her a boy’s name—his own. But I was watching a movie called “In This Our Life” starring the extremely popular actress Bette Davis. She was playing the role of Stanley Timberlake. And the movie came out in 1942, the year of our Stanley’s birth. So It could very well be that her mother saw this movie and thought that if a female character in a movie was named Stanley and could get away with it, why not name their baby, Stanley, regardless of whether it was a girl or boy? I could hardly believe what I was hearing when I first started watching and it was quite interesting just watching her going about being called Stanley all the time. Madelyn probably thought it would be cute. Of course I’m just quessing but if Madelyn had been a Davis fan like just about everyone back then, it just kind of makes sense.


363 posted on 08/09/2009 5:40:32 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: David; All

David & all

- WND just posted another transcript doc supporting the Aug 19 date:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106258

New thread discussion here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2312200/posts


364 posted on 08/09/2009 5:45:07 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: dalight
"I could go into this in detail once again, but it will be like the 50th or 60th time. DO SOME RESEARCH before wagging your finger at folks."

You need to take your own advice.

There is absolutely no legal definition of "natural born citizen" the requires citizenship of the parents. This has been explained here many times, with *legal* cites. Do the research, but not at birther sites.

365 posted on 08/09/2009 6:07:29 PM PDT by mlo
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
David & all - WND just posted another transcript doc supporting the Aug 19 date:

The August 19 date is wrong. It makes a difference only in that it would tighten the time line between birth in Kenya on August 4 (August 3 Pacific Coast time and date) and her next appearance and the other things she needed to have done between birth and attendance at the U of W. She wasn't in class at the University of Washington on the 19th of August.

It appears to me most likely that the incorrect date stems from a misreading, probably by more than one person, of 9/19 as 8/19 because the number is on the fold and difficult to see.

I am happy to talk to Corsi about it--the date is wrong.

366 posted on 08/09/2009 6:10:16 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: FTJM

367 posted on 08/09/2009 6:21:30 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Albertafriend

Cute story. Reminds me of one from our own family. The father was supposed to register his daughter as Kerri. What did he do? Wrote Kerry on the form. Not satisfied with one mistake, the second daughter he registered as Tony! Not Toni as instructed. His wife was furious. Both girls told the same story...father subconsciously wanted a boy...


368 posted on 08/09/2009 6:33:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Oh, OK, I stand corrected.


369 posted on 08/09/2009 7:06:33 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: mlo
You have to be kidding. For starters, read Posts 238 and 290 of this thread for starters. I was just warming up, but this is where we are at for the moment. Most rational people would stop at 290. The state department explains that the definition of Natural Borne Citizen relating to Article II is not the same as that defining a citizen by birth which may be modified by Act of Congress. Where as the definitions of Article II may only be modified by the Constitutional Amendment process. To ascertain the meaning of this requirement you have to go back to what the framers had intended and in this there are quite a few writings all related to the question of allegiance. This is all explained in brief by the post quoted in Post 238.

As far as the rest of your statement about my needing to take my own advice, you have been around here long enough not to go around willy nilly sticking your nose in when you clearly don't have a grasp of the facts.

Most of these *Legal* sites dwell on the immigration matter, which is an entirely different question than Article II issues, See the birther publication produced by the State Department for this.. as a start.(Post 290) OK?

370 posted on 08/09/2009 7:11:47 PM PDT by dalight
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To: MindBender26

Barack Obama-—supermole.


371 posted on 08/09/2009 7:24:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Fred Nerks
Aha! I see it now. Question: If I had a baby, and requested that the extension course materials be made available to me to complete at home...might that be possible?

The transcript would show if they were correspondence courses. Extension courses are generally evening/weekend classes, although at some schools the evening classes are just part of the regular schedule. Extension courses are also often taught at some "off campus" location, such as a school, for teacher grad courses, or a nearby company for engineering courses. But I think if you check the U. Washington Extension , you'll find extension classes scheduled the evenings. But they also have courses in a "Downtown center

Today many of the extension courses are taught online, especially the lower level ones like Stanley Ann took,

372 posted on 08/09/2009 7:28:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; FTJM
WND has the physical copy of the transcript which is clearer to see

Since they are the ones pushing the August 19th date, and since the numeral in question is clearly pushed up against a line, and since they have not cared to issue a higher resolution copy, and many people think the number looks like a '9', and since even around here WND is frequently called "World Nut Daily", I don't think I can just take WND's word for it.

August 19th, 1961 was a Saturday. This is not a day that any college I am familiar with would start classes, especially night classes. September 19th, 1961 was a Tuesday.

Many months ago information appeared in a number of articles (such as this one), which I believe originated from the UW registrar, that the fall 1961 quarter began on September 25th, 1961. This was a Monday, which would seem to make the most sense. Perhaps, since Stanley Ann was enrolled in an extension course, it began a few days early.

Unfortunately the Internet has not yet absorbed all the information formerly on paper, so it is difficult to just look up the academic calendar for UW in 1961.

This guy on FR claims that he was on the UW campus during August and early September 1961, and there was nothing going on.

Perhaps a night class would not exactly correspond to the usual academic calendar, but it wouldn't be 4 months long either, when no other class at UW ever is.

373 posted on 08/09/2009 7:30:34 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: April Lexington
...have a Congress of our elected state governors serve as a legislature that directs the federal administration in its ministerial duties...

We basically had that prior to the 17th Amendment.

The 17th Amendment superseded Article One, Section 3 of the Constitution.

The States have no representation in Washington today.

374 posted on 08/09/2009 7:31:07 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Jump You F**kers!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Scroll for Capitol Hill Neighborhoods...all of them were restricted:

Most of those restrictions dated to the 1920s, although one was sort of "renewed" in '42, but even that one only ran for 21 years, to '63. Neighborhoods change, especially during WW-II, when Boeing was turning out B-17s and B-29s, and other aircraft like sausages. So who knows how many and which of those restrictions were still in place in '61.

375 posted on 08/09/2009 7:32:45 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: wideminded; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

376 posted on 08/09/2009 7:34:21 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Fred Nerks
If I had a baby, and requested that the extension course materials be made available to me to complete at home...might that be possible?

I suppose it's possible, but if she was going to work at home, she'd have signed up for Correspondence Courses instead of Extension courses, then she could have had them sent almost anywhere. Not so very long after this, well ~75, my sister in law took high school classes by correspondence, while living with us in Oklahoma while her parents were in Pennsylvania, and the college she took them from is in Nebraska.

377 posted on 08/09/2009 7:51:09 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/covenants.htm

Racial deed restrictions became common after 1926 when the U.S. Supreme Court validated their use. The restrictions were an enforceable contract and an owner who violated them risked forfeiting the property. Many neighborhoods prohibited the sale or rental of property by Asian Americans and Jews as well as Blacks. In 1948, the court changed its mind, declaring that racial restrictions would no longer be enforced, but the decision did nothing to alter the informal structures of segregation. It remained perfectly legal for realtors and property owners to discriminate on the basis of race. Only after Congress passed the Housing Rights Act in 1968 were there measurable openings in Seattle’s system of housing segregation. (See Racial Restrictive Covenants: Enforcing Neighborhood Segregation in Seattle by Catherine Silva)

(I’m an Aussie, both the geography of the area and the idea of segregation are foreign to me, I can only go by what I read...and this website appears to be comprehensive.)


378 posted on 08/09/2009 7:53:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Redwood Bob
I’m guessing that the birth reports from hospitals would arrive by mail, and the clerk would sort them in alphabetical order by name for easy filing, then process them. Hmmm.... Could it be that the three BC numbers between “Nordyke” and “Obama” have names alphabetically between “Nordyke” and “Obama”? Call me crazy, but that’s what I’m guessing.

Nice theory, but Obama's COLB also says his was filed by registrar on Aug. 8th, while those of the Nordyke twins say they were filed Aug. 11th. (there is a slight difference in terminology from the '61 Certificates and the 2007ish COLBs. and not just Obummer's), so if the COLB date were correct even under your "process a day's worth before lunch", which is probably correct, his would have been done 3 days before theirs, and so should have a number around 150 less than theirs.

379 posted on 08/09/2009 8:10:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: David
I have just looked at a fall quarter 1964 transcript for someone else for a class that was done out of state--by mail; no C; only an X.

Scan it in, first covering individual information with a piece of card stock or some such. We'd all like to see it.

380 posted on 08/09/2009 8:19:38 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; hoosiermama; Iowan; Gemsbok

Sorry for all the confusion, I understand what you are trying to tell me...but what I am trying to explain is:

‘Anna Obama’ is listed in the Polk Directory 1961/62.

‘Obama. Stanley Ann Dunham’ is on the University course attendance card.

‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the card shows ‘extension courses’

Each one contradicts the other to a certain extent.
Why?

Why is it that everything to do with her, is such a mess?

Might it be that she NEEDED to make it appear she was living at a certain address to someone or some people who KNEW of her as Anna Obama?

Might it be that she enrolled as Stanley Ann Dunham because she had to identify herself when she enrolled?

Might it be that the OBAMA was added to the enrollment AFTER SHE TOOK THE NAME?

Might it be that she was NOT on the mainland?

Might it be that someone helpful, who understood her need to be SHOWN as living on the mainland, whilst she was elsewhere...collected the course work for her, mailed it to her...and if necessary, handed it in when completed?

All I am trying to do is show how it’s possible to LOOK as if you are in one place whilst NOT even being in the COUNTRY!

And what about the poor postman...what does he do with letters addressed to Stanley Ann Dunham, the one enrolled at the University...send them back?


381 posted on 08/09/2009 8:21:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: FTJM; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I saw that after my last post but it still doesn't convince me since the source may just be the previous paper document. After all, were academic records even stored on computers in 1961? And if the UW could provide this nice computer printed transcript, why was the previous microfilmed-looking item necessary?

#300 is another post by the guy who claims to have been there. Maybe he's delusional or a "troll", although he doesn't sound that way. I may be on the UW campus in a few weeks, so if this hasn't been resolved by then, perhaps I can look up the dates myself.

382 posted on 08/09/2009 8:29:48 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Fred Nerks
As believable as Eleanor Nordyke, connected to the East West Centre, that lists her written works...who had twins in the 'same hospital' whose announcement we cannot find.

But we do have copies of the Twins Original Certificates of Live Birth. They were published in the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper, from whose site the image below is linked:

The Certificates clearly show the twins were born in Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. Mrs. Nordyke said she did not remember Stanley Ann or Baby Barry from the hospital, but rather that Toot had later told her that BHO Jr was born in that same hospital. Mrs. Nordyke could have been telling the complete truth about what Mrs. Dunham said, but Mrs. Dunham could have been fudging the story, probably out of habit by then. Liars often start to believe their own lies, especially ones they've told for a long time.

383 posted on 08/09/2009 8:37:46 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

The birth of the twins is not in doubt, is it? The question remains, where is their birth announcement?

Mrs Nordyke said:

“I think it was remarkable that they just so happened to be born within 24 hours of each other and grew up knowing each other,” Nordyke said.

She did not know Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham, while they were in labor together on Aug. 4, 1961, at the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.

But Nordyke was a population research fellow at the East-West Center while Dunham was there. And Nordyke later met Madelyn Dunham — Ann Dunham’s mother and Obama’s grandmother — during a cruise to Tahiti in 2002.

“She was placed at our table on the ship,” Nordyke said. “She sat with us on that ship for three weeks. She told us that her daughter had passed away and that she had raised her grandson, and he was a social worker in Chicago.”

Right. And in 2003, Madelyn wasn’t able to walk without a walking aid, her osteoporosis was so bad...and Obama was a Senator in 2002. Not a ‘social worker’. The twins were born, Eleanor Nordyke was connected to the East-West Centre, and after that, the truth takes a holiday.


384 posted on 08/09/2009 8:49:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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To: David
But if you see her back in Seattle on Mercer Island on the return from Kenya talking about how happy she is with her husband; and you see her next registering for classes at Washington, even in late September; when did she give up on him and what were the circumstances--or where did she go to give up on him?

Or, was she ever in Kenya at all. Maybe she had given up on him from the beginning, that is she never intended or wanted to marry him, but just married him to legitimize the baby. Then finding that he was no real catch, or someone anyone in their right mind would want to live with, went to have the baby somewhere else, maybe Seattle/Mercer Island, maybe somewhere else yet.

Notice on the transcript, she was not admitted to the University until March of '62, for the Spring quarter. That might indicate a hurried change of plans, rather than returning to, or staying in, Hawaii, she runs off to U-Washington, taking courses in the Extension division, which does not require formal admission, and thus can be done rather quickly, rather than what was often months on the normal admissions timeline. Not something someone intending to stay with her "husband" would be likely to do, when she could have just as well re-enrolled in U. Hawai'i, which she eventually did, as soon as "hubby" was on his way to Baasten.

That part of the story, saying she expected to rejoin her husband in Boston, is likely pure bunk, most likely Stanley Ann's bunk.

385 posted on 08/09/2009 8:56:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: FReepaholic
Compare the date of that amendment to the date the communist ideology emerged from Europe. These folks know what they are doing...
386 posted on 08/09/2009 8:59:56 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: BP2

Cant anything be simple in Obama’s life?


387 posted on 08/09/2009 9:04:47 PM PDT by woofie
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To: wideminded; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I saw that after my last post but it still doesn't convince me since the source may just be the previous paper document. After all, were academic records even stored on computers in 1961? And if the UW could provide this nice computer printed transcript, why was the previous microfilmed-looking item necessary?

#300 is another post by the guy who claims to have been there. Maybe he's delusional or a "troll", although he doesn't sound that way. I may be on the UW campus in a few weeks, so if this hasn't been resolved by then, perhaps I can look up the dates myself.

Ummm...the COLB produced by Obama was generated from a computer. WND showed both the original and the computer generated record for comparison. See how that works...

388 posted on 08/09/2009 9:09:24 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: mlo
vThere is absolutely no legal definition of "natural born citizen" the requires citizenship of the parents

Could be because, there is no legal defintion of "Natural Born Citizen". The closest thing to that is in the "Elg" case, of a woman, Ms. Elg, born in the US, of *naturalized* parents who were Swedish natives. They took her back to Sweden, and resumed their Swedish citizenship, giving up their US citizenship (I think, but it's not important anyway). Ms. Elg wished to re-establish her US "identity" and move here. The DC Circuit court ruled she was a "Natural Born Citizen", and the Supreme Court stated that the lower court acted correctly in doing that. But note, she was born in the US, of two US citizen parents, and that the declaration was really just dicta, since the question before the courts was "is she a citizen", not "is she a natural born citizen". Otherwise, there is no law, and no court cases.

This is not suprising, since the only time the difference between "natural born" and "born in the US but with one or both parents being aliens" is eligibility for the office of President, and of course VP, who must meet the same eligibility requirements.

The one instance where a VP/President is known not to have had both parents be US citizens at the time of his birth was Chester Arthur, but he hid the fact that his father was not naturalized until he was about 14 years old, and it did not come out until much, much later, well after Arthur had passed away, so there were never any court cases attendant to his eligibility. (He had actually run as VP, but became President when the President was assassinated).

389 posted on 08/09/2009 9:39:58 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: FTJM
There you go, assuming there is a "history" for that electronic transcript, then the start date was indeed Aug 19, 1961.

I see that the image comes from WND, but do you have a link to the story that goes with it? ... Never mind, it's the top story right now.

Evidence challenges claim over Obama's birth address

390 posted on 08/09/2009 9:47:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SuziQ

Last year, three different employees from Bush’s state department snooped into Zerobama’s passport file, but nothing came of it! So I’m guessing they didn’t find anything damning!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/20/obama.passport/index.html


391 posted on 08/09/2009 9:50:40 PM PDT by dixiegrrlll79
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To: buccaneer81

I agree. Some of Corsi’s research in WND’s article 106135 (see below) seems to be based on what he reads in questionable sources. I don’t see strong evidence of authentic research.

What about the credibility of WorldNetDaily as well? Remember when WND published this statement on 2 August?

{{ WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical. }}

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=105764

And two days later, the very SAME statement in this article:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106016

Now along comes Corsi who shows a purportedly Kenyan document titled “Return of birth . . .” that looks altogether different from the Kenyan Certification of Registration of Birth:

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=106135

After that, Corsi cites propaganda from, of all sources, the highly UNtrustworthy, pro-Obama biased Washington Independent!

Does Corsi mention, breathe one word about, the “other birth certificates FROM KENYA” whose form appears “to be IDENTICAL”? (Emphasis added)

What is going on? Do WND editors not check WND’s articles for content errors? Did WND lie in its first and second article? Or are certain Kenyans trying to discredit Orly’s find?

I no longer trust WND. That publication tends toward sensationalism, and the articles I cited disagree on an extremely important basic fact.


392 posted on 08/09/2009 9:51:15 PM PDT by Nom dí Guerre
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To: dixiegrrlll79; Admin Moderator

Sheesh! Please, mods, check this one out. She’s undoubtedly from the 0-team.

And dixiegrill - the snooping into files is connected with 0bama, not Bush. You either already know that and are smoke blowing, or you just don’[t know anything by mistake. Which is doubtful.

One of the breakers in was working for the dude that 0bama subsequently hired, and at the time of the breakin, was helping 0bama with funding for the election. 0bama engineered the breakin to see what was on his files.

Troll.


393 posted on 08/09/2009 10:10:29 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: FTJM; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Ummm...the COLB produced by Obama was generated from a computer.

Yes, and we know that the conversion from paper records wasn't done until 2001.

In the transcript case, if WND had the clearer document before, why didn't Dr. Corsi add it to his August 4th article? I note that today's article doesn't say anything about an additional document transfer from UW. If the computer-generated document isn't from UW, then one must wonder about its provenance. If the computer generated document was created by UW from the paper document, then it is entirely likely that the transcriptionist could have made the '8'/'9' reading error and would never never checked any other source for the class dates.

394 posted on 08/09/2009 10:14:15 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: devolve

Excellent post, music and all!


395 posted on 08/09/2009 10:32:04 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: dixiegrrlll79
Last year, three different employees from Bush’s state department snooped into Zerobama’s passport file, but nothing came of it!

They weren't State Department employees, they were contractors, whose employer has ties to...you guessed it, The One.

396 posted on 08/10/2009 12:41:23 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Fred Nerks
It remained perfectly legal for realtors and property owners to discriminate on the basis of race.

Doesn't mean they always did, particularly when the "wrong race" person is a baby with a "right race" mother.

397 posted on 08/10/2009 12:44:39 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Fred Nerks
‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the card shows ‘extension courses’

Are you sure you aren't confusing the University of Hawaii letter with the University of Washington letter. She was "Dunham" when she first enrolled at U. Hawaii. They may just keep the record under that name, even if it changes latter. Can't recall if that was done with my wife's records or not. We married when she had about year left as an undergrad.

The card shows both Extension courses and for the Spring quarter of '62, regular courses. So does the printed transcript from U. Washington.

398 posted on 08/10/2009 12:51:07 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato; Fred Nerks; potlatch; devolve; FARS; pissant; LucyT; null and void

399 posted on 08/10/2009 12:58:18 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: El Gato
‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the card shows ‘extension courses’

whoops! I meant to write:

‘Stanley Ann Dunham’ is the name on the letter received through FOI - from the University with dates of ‘attendance’ - where-as the name on the card shows OBAMA. Stanley Ann Dunham.

I DID have both items of FOI communication downloaded, but regretfully lost them when my comp crashed months ago. However, the text is here:

ATLAS SHRUGS.LINK

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for: Autumn 1961 Winter 1962 Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson Office of Public Records 206-543-9180

400 posted on 08/10/2009 1:04:36 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (DON'T LIE TO ME!)
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