Doesn't the Dept. of State handle passports and travel visas? Might there still be files in their records regarding his trip?
If Ms. Dunham, a natural-born citizen, is his mother, then he is a citizen, regardless of where he was born.
It might be argued he isn't a "natural-born citizen," since that term has never been precisely defined legally, but he is most certainly a US citizen.
Of course, I haven't seen any DNA evidence she's actually his mother. But then, AFAIK, nobody has seen any for Bill Clinton, John McCain or Sarah Palin. How do we really know any of these individuals weren't born outside the US and smuggled in?
There are so many errors in the story that the credibility is now damaged beyond repair!
The excuse of being too tired, etc. is not acceptable as such damages further threaten the Free Republic as a source of good information.
I would suggest to remove this thread and clean up the story.
Otherwise O’Reilly will tear into us again!
His mother is a citizen. That makes him a citizen, no matter where he was born - but not necessarily a native born citizen.
What travel was that? He went to Pakistan in 1981.
Personally I don't find this hard to believe -- except the parts that Corsi obviously made up out of thin air. Starting classes in Seattle doesn't mean she wasn't already admitted to the college there well beforehand, and many colleges do most of their registration right at the beginning of each term (especially for new students or students returning from a leave of absence). And we certainly have no reason to believe she didn't have any help caring for the baby. Sister? Mother? Aunt? Hardly improbable.
A college friend of mine got pregnant during her freshman year, went home to the West Coast at the end of the spring semester, had the baby sometime in late July or early August, and was back in school full time (in the same college, on the East Coast) when classes started in late August, with newborn and now-husband in tow. She'd been planning to return to school in September and she did. Nothing odd about that. Her husband stayed home and provided full-time baby care, just as some relative or friend of Obama's mother (or perhaps even relative of his father) may have done.
Of course, President Obama could help by filling in some early biographical info, even if there's something on his original birth certificate that he doesn't want made public (possibly just because it would be embarrassing to some other family member). On the other hand, he may not really know a lot of the details, and doesn't want to start giving unverified information based on what he remembers being told as a child, and then be called out on inaccuracies that are later dug up by someone else.
I know I'd be hard-pressed to provide an accurate timeline of my mother's whereabouts in the months just before and after my birth. I know she and my father met in Indonesia while they were both working for the US Government there, and that she was already pregnant when they came back to the US. My parents are still alive, so I could go ask them for details, but their memories may be a bit fuzzy too (they're both in their 80s), and if they were dead, there really wouldn't be any way for me to find out, for example, if they arrived back in the US very shortly before my birth, or quite a while before. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are a handful of old friends of theirs from that era who would say they thought I was born in Indonesia based on inaccurate memories, or on inaccurate assumptions they made decades ago when they heard my parents had had a baby.
If people want to pursue questions about Obama's origins and be taken seriously, they need to collect enough facts to actually raise a serious question, and not embellish their flimsy "bombshells" with statements that are obviously just unfounded assumptions. Just stick to facts that they have clear support for. That's the key credibility feature that's missing from virtually all the "birther" claims that are being spread around.
So if Mr. Corsi has written proof of this, then ? that brings in to question of not only where Mr. Obama was born, but, when .... perhaps he was not born in Aug but in July or even June.....
IF YOU HIDE SOMETHING, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE
It’s not just ONE document. We have to see them all. Look at this 22 second video by U.S. Senator from New York Chuck Schumer:
“When you are running for president everything should be public including your full medical records. I believe in a right to privacy, but when you are running for president, which is such an important job, the need of the public to know supercedes it.”
Please, write to everyone you can. We need medical records, school, passport, birth certificate. EVERYTHING, because noone knows who he is.
For example: he could have been treated for mental illnes, or he could have been a u.s. citizen and applied for and got foreign aid or scholarships (maybe it was easier for a foreign aid student to get money).
It’s not JUST about the birth certificate. He is hiding it all because there is something very wrong with him.
W/O a documented history, whether BO's naturalized is unknown....
Ms. Stanley didn’t need to be in Hawaii to have Obama’s birth registered or have the birth ad put into the newspapers. Her folks probably did that so she could collect welfare more easily knowing that Obama’s parent’s relationship was not stable..... Try born in Kenya then straight to Seattle never setting foot in Hawaii.
Mail order college would explain this easily.
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Supposedly born? As opposed to what? Hatched? Cloned? Created by a hologram projector?
I posted this as sarcasm last December, but it may be main stream birtherism by this Christmas.
... in the Holiday spirit, I would like to give those Freepers trying to flog life into this dead horse a couple of ideas about other avenues to pursue.
1. Is BO a Human??? Maybe he is a cyborg. Maybe he is of non-terran origin. Have you seen the DNA tests showing him to be a human? Has anyone? Why won't he release samples of his DNA to independent labs?
2. Fourteen years a resident of the United States??? The Constitution requires that the President have been a resident of the United States for the past fourteen years. But BO has, for the past four years, been living in no state at all, but in the District of Columbia. And before that? Texas has people who think that, because of some paper work foul up in the Annexation in 1846, Texas is not a State, but still an independent republic.What of Illinois? Maybe there was some paper work foul up with the Treaty of Pairs in 1763, and Illinois is still a French Colony. Has anyone looked into that?
Are either of these issue meritorious? No. But they aren't much worse than the birth in Kenya, or Canada, or wherever argument. And at least they make for a change of pace.
Obamanation is a good book.
Tough crowd, eh?
No worries...it more meat to be chewed...;)