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A Warning For America From South Africa [Excellent! Must read!]
The National Messenger ^ | January 2005 | Gemma Meyer

Posted on 08/09/2009 8:51:32 AM PDT by upchuck

NOTE: This article was written in January, 2005. But it is actually more applicable and prophetic today than it was then. It is a little long but well worth your time.

By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman - that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability.

But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.

Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace."

Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for our society.

The Third World is different - different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once the thriving, stable Rhodesia - is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion.

Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside the realm.

It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.

White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you.

We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad (not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's history.

The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission-school proteges. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."

Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors.

From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice.

A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel.

In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge "white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned.

What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language?

Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first targets were our national symbols.

In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your justice system.

In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murderers end up in jail. Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear. Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.

What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?

Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.

Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.

In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring him to surrender.

When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.

Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned.

What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.

Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.

Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.

To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.

Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your posessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; anc; lessons; mandela; mugabe; nelsonmandela; racism; southafrica; thewest; zimbabwe
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There are so many good ideas in this article, I don't know where to begin. Let this suffice:
Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.

1 posted on 08/09/2009 8:51:32 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck
A compellig explanation of why Obama's third world views are so dangerous. Socialist authoritarianism aside, he is reducing the political process to street brawls even as we speak.
2 posted on 08/09/2009 8:57:28 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: upchuck

Whites should have more babies.

This fact alone is reason enough for Liberals to hate Sarah Palin.


3 posted on 08/09/2009 8:59:08 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: upchuck
Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice.

Not the ones I have seen lately.

Young and old Americans are p!ssed and getting nastier by the day. There will definitely be a fight...get ready!!!

4 posted on 08/09/2009 8:59:11 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (If the auto industry and banking were Obama's Austria and Czechoslovakia, healthcare is his Poland.)
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To: upchuck

We’ve already seen this happen in the ghettos of our big cities. Now try and get them back. Fresno Calif is trying to get their city back and, from what I hear, are doing a fairly good job of it. You have to have the determination to accomplish this. It takes everyone to get involved and say we will not give up our country.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 9:00:06 AM PDT by RC2
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To: upchuck

Mark


6 posted on 08/09/2009 9:00:48 AM PDT by TFMcGuire (Life is tough. It is even tougher if you are stupid--John Wayne)
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To: upchuck

Thomas Jefferson: “Now and again, the tree of liberty must be nourished with the blood of patriots and tyrants.....it is its natural manure.”

What profound words.

IMHO


7 posted on 08/09/2009 9:02:10 AM PDT by ripley
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To: upchuck

Prophetic.


8 posted on 08/09/2009 9:02:23 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: upchuck

This article is RIGHT ON!

I thank you for posting it.

It is happening. THe parallels are OBVIOUS.

ALan Keys, yes, A BLACK man has hinted at the same thing.

Tuesday, March 31, 2009
Zimbabwe in America’s Future?
This morning one of the media lookouts at AIPnews.com drew attention to an article in the Washington Times about the awful conditions in Zimbabwe. In the article images of prison conditions there are likened to photos of inmates just after their liberation from the Nazi death camps. In addition to the horrid prison conditions, the country as a whole is in a state of collapse. “UN agencies estimate that up to three-quarters of Zimbabwe’s estimated 12 million people are malnourished and dependent on food aid. Critics blame bad governance and a land-distribution program that began in 1999 and has left a majority of farms idle. Until 2001, Zimbabwe was a net exporter of food.”

In the fall of 1980 I returned from Mumbai, India, my first posting as a foreign service officer, to take up my new chores as “desk officer” for the BLS countries (Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland) and assistant desk officer for the newly minted nation of Zimbabwe (formerly Rhodesia). On the way, I stopped in New York to witness Zimbabwe’s admission to the United Nations (August 25, 1980), and got my first glimpse of the successful insurgent leader, Robert Mugabe. Over the years since, I’ve tried to keep up with the subject of my former responsibilities. Like some others, I watched with wary hope, then increasing dismay and grief, as stupid leftist ideology and political ambition overcame common sense and love of country to set Mugabe and his cronies on a path that ultimately destroyed Zimbabwe’s once flourishing economy and turned its promised constitutional system into a paradigmatic wasteland of tyranny and repression.

The shallow advocates of “majority rule” in southern Africa pretend that this is somehow just the result of the personal flaws and failings of Mugabe and the people around him, but this isn’t an adequate explanation. The very idea that the aim of just revolution is “majority rule” has to bear its share of the blame. Of course the socialist mentality that dominates all too many among America’s foreign policy elite (including the black elites that professed such burning interest in justice for blacks in southern Africa) tacitly approves the notion that unalloyed “majority rule” is a just and sustainable form of government. The short and tragic history of Zimbabwe is a classic illustration of why, as Artemus Ward might say, that notion is among “the things we know that just ain’t so.”

From ancient times (see for example Book VIII of Plato’s Republic) pure democracy has been identified as perhaps the most unstable form of government. It’s like a radioactive element with a short half-life fated to break down speedily into its next form. Under the influence of demagogues pure democracy declines to mob rule which feeds such a collapse of order and security that people literally beg for the iron hand of tyranny to rescue them from calamity. Years ago, as I helped to staff those who were participating in discussions about the political future of southern Africa, this often came to my mind. It tempered my enthusiasm for seemingly quick paths to black majority rule that paid no attention to the need for carefully considered institutions that would avoid the inevitable tendency of pure democracy to give birth to destructive tyranny. Later, as an Assistant Secretary of state, I gave a speech to the National Urban league that reflected these concerns. I was caricatured by the propaganda hit men of the left, derided as some kind of tool of intransigent, racist whites simply because I refused to forget that the productive cooperation of the white minority would be absolutely essential to the success of the new forms of government emerging in the region. (Though events have proven me right, to this day I am slurred by leftist blacks for showing this concern. For some people there is no sin more unforgivable than to see the truth before they do.)

In Zimbabwe this meant avoiding what I thought of as the tragic mistake of the Gracchi brothers, whose precipitous implementation of “land reforms” (redistribution of land from the aristocratic few to the land-poor majority) hastened the collapse of the Roman Republic. No historical parallels are exact, of course, but they can suggest principles to keep in mind. In Zimbabwe’s case this meant realizing that the imperative of economic and social success required respect for the demonstrated expertise and success of the several thousand white farming families whose adaptation of modern techniques had produced a little agricultural miracle. In countries large and small, the first prerequisite of economic development seems to be the sustained and efficient generation of large surpluses in the farm economy. The burgeoning urban areas so characteristic of rapidly expanding industrial and technological economies mean that expansive non-farm populations must be fed. Master this challenge, and there’s a solid foundation for sustained economic growth. Fail to master it (as for instance the old Soviet Union did) and even great natural advantages (arable land, metal and mineral resources, etc.) resist the possibility of material success.

The framers of Zimbabwe’s constitution needed to eschew sloganeered thinking about majority rule and devise ways to assure constitutional mechanisms that gave the white minority enough political clout to hamper any efforts simply to despoil them of their wealth. The result would have done more than avoid economic folly. It would have encouraged white/black coalitions that hampered the implementation of the kind of demagogic mob politics Mugabe has used to fortify his political power at the expense of his country’s happiness.

These days, Americans should not think of these reflections on Zimbabwe’s plight as curious thoughts about a distant misery. I have frequently made the point that, given his upbringing and ideology, Barack Obama doesn’t represent the heritage of Black Americans. In both respects, however, he more than adequately represents the characteristics of tragically failed socialist leaders in Africa, like Robert Mugabe. Can we see his politically motivated orgy of debt financed spending as the demagogue’s destructive disregard for the real well being of the nation? Can we see in his bid for dictatorial control of the economic sector preparation for the disastrous subordination of economic sense to political ambition? Though he is not alone in doing so (his sold-out Democrat and Republican colleagues share in his actions) will his calculated acts of “creative destruction” turn the once flourishing strength of the American people into a wrecked and timorous shadow of its former self? On all sides, the political elite in this country seemed ready to abandon the constitutional system of self-government in favor of a mobocratic implementation of pure democracy that temporarily allows demagogues to flourish, while they rape and pillage the hopes of the people they mislead. Is there more than a little Zimbabwe in our future?

http://loyaltoliberty.blogspot.com/2009/03/zimbabwe-in-america-future.html


9 posted on 08/09/2009 9:05:45 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: upchuck
Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your posessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?
That is pretty much it in a nutshell.
10 posted on 08/09/2009 9:06:33 AM PDT by smith288 (Americans suffer from Stockholm Syndrome with the government)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I was thinking the same! We are going to take it!


11 posted on 08/09/2009 9:07:17 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I was thinking the same! We are NOT going to take it!


12 posted on 08/09/2009 9:07:43 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (“Cap and Trade bill tells us how to live.. Health Care bill tells us how to die.” Bauer and Rose)
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To: upchuck

bookmark


13 posted on 08/09/2009 9:07:46 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: upchuck

Great article.


14 posted on 08/09/2009 9:08:37 AM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Life Is Like A Box of Chocolates, You Never Know What You're Gonna Get." -Forest Gump)
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To: CriticalJ

And scary.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 9:08:43 AM PDT by Nexx9
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To: SatinDoll

My Wife and I have four healthy strong and bright sons ages 9,7,5,4...........and they are raised in an unapologetic Christ-filled home!


16 posted on 08/09/2009 9:09:51 AM PDT by mkcc30 (Their lying tongues will become their nooses.)
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To: upchuck
the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's history.

We must not let them mistake our kindness for weakness

17 posted on 08/09/2009 9:11:25 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: RC2

“We’ve already seen this happen in the ghettos of our big cities.”

...Yes, exactly!....and it’s getting worse...Baltimore, New Orleans, Atlanta come to mind...see Thomas Chittum’s “Civil War Two” for a glimpse at the coming breakup of the U.S.
http://www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf


18 posted on 08/09/2009 9:12:13 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: upchuck
Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your posessions, your power, and your status.

What 0bama and his ilk don't realize is that the "high minded ideals" of Jefferson and Washington enable a society to have the good life. Once those values are swept away we just become another third-world stink hole.

19 posted on 08/09/2009 9:16:11 AM PDT by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT (I'm one of the undecided. Is BamBam more corrupt than Clinton or more incompetent than Carter?)
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To: hinckley buzzard

. . . and the gall of this moron named obama - he goes around the world apologizing for evil of America.

I despise him.


20 posted on 08/09/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: mkcc30

O bama
B ig
A rse
M istake
A merica


21 posted on 08/09/2009 9:19:53 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: upchuck

Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your posessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

All true, and we are on the verge of giving up political control of the USA to guilt-ridden, white leftists and Third World immigrants. And we also have our first president with a Third World mentality and view of the US.

22 posted on 08/09/2009 9:21:05 AM PDT by Will88
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To: upchuck
Part of Obama's tools to bring about a social justice is to follow the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

So this projected end result is not at all surprising since this is one of the objectives of the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

In short, this is not an unintended consequence. It IS the objective of his change.

23 posted on 08/09/2009 9:23:13 AM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: upchuck

Clear, unvarnished, and courageously spoken truth. There is more honesty in this article than the American media has uttered in the last 50 years.


24 posted on 08/09/2009 9:25:16 AM PDT by Spok
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To: upchuck

Are we up to the task? We’ll soon see.


25 posted on 08/09/2009 9:31:39 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama is a radical communist and is going to destroy this country-Alan Keyes)
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To: upchuck

Anyone who doubts what this article says should spend a little time snooping over at DU, if you have the stomach.
One poster there, who said he was White, hoped for the day when the influx of foreign cultures would become a majority in the US and destroy the “white” western culture.

“A REPUBLIC, madam, If you can keep it!-—Ben Franklin


26 posted on 08/09/2009 9:32:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tar and feather the sons of bi#ches! Ride them out of town on a rail!)
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To: upchuck

Excellent post!


27 posted on 08/09/2009 9:33:48 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: nmh

Wise words.


28 posted on 08/09/2009 9:40:13 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: upchuck

What a great and sobering read; thank you for posting. It is the collectivists vs the individualists. The best and clearest explanation that I have found is by G. Edward Griffin at his Freedom Force International website:

http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedom.cfm?fuseaction=issues#fic

where he says:
“Let us be specific. Collectivists advocate controlled elections, controlled media, controlled education, the elimination of free speech, disarmament of the population, fiat money, a cartelized health-care system, military imperialism, and global government.

The ideology of Freedom Force is individualism, the opposite of collectivism at every point. Individualists advocate honest elections, a competitive media, an educational system responsive to parents, encouragement of free speech, a well-armed citizenry, sound money, freedom-of-choice in health care, a non-interventionist foreign policy, and national sovereignty.”


29 posted on 08/09/2009 9:46:13 AM PDT by ctyankee00
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To: Bluebird Singing

And giving away our wealth to OTHER COUNTRIES.

Part of the “stimulus” went to OTHER COUNTRIES.

He’s not just trying to “level the playing field here” - he wants to REDISTRIBUTE AMERICA’S WEALTH to other third world countries.


30 posted on 08/09/2009 9:51:14 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: mkcc30
My Wife and I have four healthy strong and bright sons ages 9,7,5,4...........and they are raised in an unapologetic Christ-filled home!

There is a nice lady (41 years old) who runs the local fruit/vegetable stand.

She voluntared to me the other day that she felt she would be attacked in her lifetime because she is White and Christian.

I was suprised when she said that.

31 posted on 08/09/2009 9:55:52 AM PDT by blam
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To: upchuck
"Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again."

So the black settlers in South Africa, who arrived there at the same time as the same time as the original white settlers and lost their "social, cultural, and political dominance" never got it back again, huh?

32 posted on 08/09/2009 9:56:26 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Spok
There is more honesty in this article than the American media has uttered in the last 50 years.

that is because the MSM think this will not affect their lives
33 posted on 08/09/2009 9:59:42 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: smith288

Well said!


34 posted on 08/09/2009 10:01:12 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: upchuck
Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.

Excellent article! Thanks for posting it.

35 posted on 08/09/2009 10:02:48 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: nmh
The greatest kindnesses that could be done to Zimbabwe would be to:

A) kick the U.N. out completely,
B) cease all aid to that country,
C) cease all trade with that country
C) arrest and imprison all members of Mugabe's clique and their families if they set foot outside the country.

The problem would solve itself in about 3 months.

36 posted on 08/09/2009 10:03:40 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: upchuck
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Winston Churchill

37 posted on 08/09/2009 10:08:23 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: upchuck

I saw the demise of Rhodesia, which meant South Africa’s destiny was to follow in step, and in time the same would face the US.


38 posted on 08/09/2009 10:13:34 AM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: upchuck

Chilling.

Bookmark to send around.


39 posted on 08/09/2009 10:22:45 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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To: upchuck

As stated in the article the Anglo American is well on the way of becoming a conquered people. As the Gaul said to the Roman; “Woe to the Conquered!” Get ready for insults, whippings, beatings, arrests, discrimination in jobs and schooling. Eventually once power is consolidated whites will die to provide amusement for blacks.


40 posted on 08/09/2009 10:29:16 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: penelopesire
Excellent post!

Thank you. I hope this gets spread far and wide.

41 posted on 08/09/2009 10:43:31 AM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus

Excellent. Bump for RJ.


42 posted on 08/09/2009 10:44:12 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: arasina
Excellent article! Thanks for posting it.

Thanks for the kind words. Email this to all your friends.

43 posted on 08/09/2009 10:45:34 AM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: upchuck

BTT


44 posted on 08/09/2009 10:48:24 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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To: upchuck

Credit where credit is due. I got this in an email from ex-Freeper Peach. I’m sure some of you remember her. She provided the link.


45 posted on 08/09/2009 10:48:48 AM PDT by upchuck (Psalm 109:8 ~ Let his days be few; and let another take his office.)
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To: upchuck
They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

Rush has been pointing this out for years.

Consider emailing this article around - it may serve as a wake up call to a few who think they don't need to get involved or that this thing is going to get turned around via normal channels.

46 posted on 08/09/2009 11:01:13 AM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: upchuck

BTTT


47 posted on 08/09/2009 11:16:41 AM PDT by Osage Orange (“A community organizer can’t bitch when communities organize.....” - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: upchuck

You are most likely unaware that a poster by the same name is an AIDs infected loser, it’s not his real name — he had it changed, posts BS on Libertypost.org and is ignored by everyone. I think he was David Hoffman from the Midwest, but I won’t go check my database, it’s not worth it.

Look at the date on the article you posted. Wonder where it lifted it from.

Unless the poster at LP stole this guys name it is a total waste product.

Could very well be the case the loser at LP is the fraud, it’s definitely an asshole.

And I don’t know if this is the same a**clown, maybe the same guy pre-AIDS? I don’t know. Why the same exact spelling of the name?


48 posted on 08/09/2009 11:23:31 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: I am Richard Brandon

The greatest kindnesses that could be done to Zimbabwe would be to:
A) kick the U.N. out completely,
B) cease all aid to that country,
C) cease all trade with that country
C) arrest and imprison all members of Mugabe’s clique and their families if they set foot outside the country.

The problem would solve itself in about 3 months.


RIGHT ON!


49 posted on 08/09/2009 11:52:44 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: upchuck
From the text:

Millions around the world want your good life..... What they want are your possessions, your power and your status.

There would be no rational debate on this subject in many cases. Simply there would be cries of "racist". The facts stated are hardly able to be disputed. Either much of South Africa barely contains a rule of law and fear reigns- or it is a show piece of what can be done post colonialism.

America the last bastion of Western Civilization. I would count Canada as well, sadly not by good old fashioned commonsense standards, that were applied over forty years ago, for immigration. No, it is the thin population (32 million) and the vast distances that are between cities.

What is happening is that the ruling class in Canada, simply retreat to an enclave. Not quite gated communities exactly, but priced beyond any unpleasant vociferous "new" Canadians. I dare say the same thing is happening in America. For example, I have driven through the South Side of Chicago. I understand there is a nearly all white enclave called Tinley Park. One of President Obama's former mentors, who is black has a mansion there.

In England, which is going down the tubes and the first riots are surfacing, the ruling class often use a fast railway system. It brings them at night to country side and a small town. Joe Six Pack or Joe Pint of Beer stays with the problems of protected minorities, in their neighborhoods. Some police women having to practice wearing burkas yet.

I may live out to see the result- God bless America.

50 posted on 08/09/2009 12:02:19 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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