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Melee of cyclists / Ogden incident leads to four arrests [Cyclists on a Rampage]
Ogden Standard Examiner ^ | 8/9/2009 | Trent Toone

Posted on 08/09/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

OGDEN -- Was it a friendly group bicycle ride through downtown Ogden or a confrontational melee that included obstructing traffic, assault, obscenities and alcohol?

Depends on who you talk to.

Numbers vary from 35 to 70, but a large group of cyclists, referred to as Critical Mass, was taking a monthly ride to celebrate cycling and assert their rights to the road on Friday when Ogden police say things got out of hand. Four individuals were arrested on charges of disorderly conduct, failure to disperse and public intoxication.

Matt Hasenyager, owner of Skyline Cycle and one of the bicyclists, said the group was obeying traffic laws and having fun.

However, police reports indicate some were hostile, disrupted traffic flow, yelled obscenities and made gestures at motorists while intoxicated.

The trouble started at the intersection of 23rd Street and Grant Avenue when a woman motorist stopped at a red light and was suddenly surrounded by bicyclists. When the light turned green, she was unable to pull forward and honked her horn.

Cyclists responded by yelling obscenities and someone threw a cup of soda pop and hit the woman in the face, the police report said. When she pulled forward, her vehicle bumped one of the bicycles, causing minor damage to the fender and wheel. Then she called police.

"They demanded she be arrested for aggravated assault, but it wasn't intentional," said Ogden Lt. Mike Ashment. "The woman didn't want to pursue anything."

The group continued its ride to 24th Street and Lincoln Avenue, where two individuals halted traffic, entered the intersection and began escorting the other riders through even though the light was red, according to the police report. Angry motorists were forced to maneuver around the pair and more gestures were made and obscenities yelled, Ashment said.

The scene was observed by a Utah Highway Patrol trooper and Weber County deputy who were assisting the Ogden City gang unit for the weekend. They arrived and instructed the two cyclists to leave the intersection and talk with them. One complied, but the other pedaled away after the group.

Deputy Trevor Petersen pursued the individual, eventually tackling him off his bike. Petersen's actions surprised the group, which then surrounded him. He ordered them to move away and called for backup, the report said. Eventually more than six officers arrived to help disperse the irate crowd.

Four individuals were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct, failure to disperse and public intoxication. They are Samuel Mc-Kay, 26; Sara Fulks, 33; Donald Hall, 61; and KC Shirra, 19. A 12-pack of beer was located in Fulks' backpack.

It was a bizarre scene, trooper Chris Turley said.

"I have never encountered something like this. Usually people are very law abiding, but the crowd was very hostile. Many were intoxicated and smelled of alcohol," Turley said. "It was unusual behavior."

Hasenyager was riding with the group and recalls the scene as one of chaos and confusion. He said his friend that was tackled didn't know the deputy wanted him to stop.

"It was hard to know who he (the deputy) was talking to when he said 'Stop sir, stop.' There 30 of us," Hasenyager said. "I don't think the police department as a whole was out of line, but this individual (the deputy) could have handled it in a different fashion. If it had been handled differently, without physical force, I wouldn't be talking about it right now. Maybe tickets could have been written."

According to several Web sites, Critical Mass is a bicycling event typically held on the last Friday of every month in hundreds of cities around the world. The ride was originally founded in 1992 in San Francisco with the idea of drawing attention to how unfriendly the city was to cyclists. Participants have insisted that these events should be viewed as "celebrations" and spontaneous gatherings, and not as protests or organized demonstrations.

Ashment and Lt. Scott Conley both find it odd that the group is out promoting fun and bicycle awareness, yet failing to comply with traffic rules and other laws.

"It doesn't jive," Ashment said.

"Why are they so confrontational with public? Why do they have alcohol in their backpacks? From what I am being told, they were they individuals escalating the situation," Conley said.

Hasenyager didn't see the incident at 23rd and Grant, but said has heard several different versions of what happened. He said it was heartbreaking to see this all happen, but the bottom line, he said, is that Ogden is an outdoor hot spot.

"The best we can do now is move this in a positive direction, learn a valuable lesson and move forward, and be better because of it."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: bicycle; bicycling; bike; cycle; cycleofviolence; cycling; cyclist; drunkdrivers; dui; dumbass; dwi; spandex; tdf; tourdefrance
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Way to go bikers, this sure helps your standing in the community.
1 posted on 08/09/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Liberals behaving poorly.


2 posted on 08/09/2009 9:22:28 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Get on a child’s toy and go play in traffic!


3 posted on 08/09/2009 9:23:25 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
bike o rama
4 posted on 08/09/2009 9:25:53 AM PDT by Morgana (Knowledge comes, but wisdom lingers. ---- - Alfred Lord Tennyson)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

As a cyclist, let me be the first to say that Critical Mass is full of whiny pansy ass losers who lacked a father figure growing up.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 9:26:15 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“Critical Mass”?

Don’t tell me, let me guess, another ACORN affiliate?


6 posted on 08/09/2009 9:26:51 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Bike Nazis Beware

7 posted on 08/09/2009 9:26:55 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Bicyclists? Ah, mimes of the highway!


8 posted on 08/09/2009 9:26:59 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (nothing is normal anymore)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

How to handle ‘Critical Mass’ bicyclers, My experience at Bio 2004:

After moving less than half a block in 20 minutes (one block away from from Moscone), a bunch of bicyclists started riding between the cars, leader with a bull horn, shouting something about taking over the streets.

He had the horn pointed back wards so I didn’t hear him coming. Durn! he got away!

However, I popped my door open in front of the third or so cyclist in the string. (I did look first to make sure he had room to stop).

He screams “You effin’ clymer!!!” (OK, I cleaned it up a little, so sue me...)

I looked up smiled sweetly and said “That makes two of us...”

Totally messed them up. They had to stop and regroup. His buds split leaving him with two young “ladies” to protect him from the mean man in the car. Boo fricking hoo

I closed the door and he started to pass by and continued to berate me. When he was adjacent to the door I popped it open at him, not to hit him, but to persuade him to move along.

He darn near fell off his bike trying to dodge me.

“We’re going to call 911!!!”

“Don’t bother, I’ll call for you” which I did. (The line was busy)

He and the two chicks decided that it was past their collective bedtimes or something and split.

Felt GOOD...


9 posted on 08/09/2009 9:27:17 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 200 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I'm a cyclist who rides nearly 10,000 miles per year. These morons from Critical Mass are NOT cyclists, they are leftists and hardcore libs who just happen to be on bicycles. Don't let the media twist it to fool you.


10 posted on 08/09/2009 9:27:23 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Get on a child’s toy and go play in traffic!

I'm inclined to agree. Nothing against bicyclers, but a lot of them expect everyone else on the road to cater to them. I have a friend who thinks I'm nuts for riding a motorcycle who will creep along the side of a busy two lane here in Ill. Scared the hell out of me.

11 posted on 08/09/2009 9:27:52 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
> Way to go bikers, this sure helps your standing in the community.

Operating a vehicle on a public thoroughfare while intoxicated -- that's what this is.

Let 'em pay a road taxes, either directly or through registering for a public-thoroughfare cycling license.

"Right to the road"? Sure, on a level with everybody else -- responsibilities as well as rights.

12 posted on 08/09/2009 9:27:58 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Not as stupid as getting paid millions to dress up in a costume and throw a ball in a billion dollar climate controlled stadium.

Cycling is one of the few sports left with real “hard men” in it. The NFL/MLB/NBA should just start handing out mandatory tiaras.


13 posted on 08/09/2009 9:28:40 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Drunk driving is dangerous.

Drunk cycling is suicidal.

I’m guessing a small percentage of these were professional troublemakers who just happened to own a bike.


14 posted on 08/09/2009 9:28:50 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: Blue Jays

Ditto.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 9:30:11 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"It doesn't jive," Ashment said.

Sigh.

16 posted on 08/09/2009 9:31:24 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I consider Critical Mass to be an enemy of the cycling community. In claiming to demand respect for cyclists, they get in everyone elses face, including pedestrians, including mass transit users (blocking buses). There was an incident last summer in Minneapolis where the behavior was approaching that of the San Franscisco Critical Massers - known to be quite violent. And Minneapolis mayor R T Rybak participates in the Critical Mass rides.

I am a competitive cyclist. You would think that a sport that depends a lot on individual effort and an awful lot of training (even at an amateur masters level) would have a lot of participants who are at least somewhat libertarian. Instead, many of the participants here are far left barking moonbats. Makes me sometimes consider getting rid of the bikes, bloat to 400#, and run them off the road with the SUV.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 9:31:46 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Bike Fascists


18 posted on 08/09/2009 9:31:53 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: sinanju

Exactly. Critical Mass riders are the same idiots protesting G8 summits, inciting violence at Town Hall meetings, and disrupting conservative speakers at colleges across the US.

Everyone I ride with values freedom, diversity of thought and action and that very nature makes a supermajority of them conservatives.


19 posted on 08/09/2009 9:32:21 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Did the Ogden police act "stupidly?"

For some reason liberals are attracted to bicycles as a form of mass transportation. Probably their longing to be European.

It seems that any time these liberal folks get together enmasse they think that the rule of law no longer applies to them and feel they can do as they please. It's as if they confuse mass groupings with majority rule.

The Ogden police acted just like the Cambridge or any other police department would act. They followed established legal procedure, something that just pisses liberals off.

20 posted on 08/09/2009 9:32:32 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Cyclists are, generally and with a few exceptions, a menace on the hiways and byways and ought to be taxed off the road.

At the very least they ought to have annual licence plates for their contraptions, compulsory third-party and property damage insurance, five year cyclists licences with photo and signature (for which they should sit a test), and they ought to pay a mileage levy just like diesel trucks do, to pay a contribution to the roads that they otherwise use for free. This latter tax could be used to pay for the dedicated cycle lanes that cyclists seem to constantly demand.

Recognizing that kids ride bikes, the above measures should exempt children under the age of eighteen, who should therefore ride on sidewalks and walk their cycles as pedestrians across intersections. As novice riders they should be prohibited to ride alongside roads where the speed limit exceeds 50 MPH, and they should be prohibited to ride after dark or before sunrise.

Sounds sensible to me.


21 posted on 08/09/2009 9:32:34 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: gura

I agree..I live in Portland Oregon and commute on a bike. Critical Mass is a ‘get in your face’, confrontational, disruptive group. They stop traffic, run stop signs, and want to impose their lifestyle on the auto drivers(who pay all the road taxes) that pay for their wonderful bike lanes.


22 posted on 08/09/2009 9:33:02 AM PDT by OregonTide
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The ride was originally founded in 1992 in San Francisco with the idea of drawing attention to how unfriendly the city was to cyclists.

Roads exist because car owners pay for them. I find it strange that politicians capitulate to bicyclists who use roads paid by others. We need to suggest bike registration and use taxes. that should stir interest among politicians. Change the laws to make bicyclists fully comply with road laws. Make them produce an operator's license and registration when stopped by police. That will really irk the commie b@st@rds.

23 posted on 08/09/2009 9:33:21 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: gura
Not as stupid as getting paid millions to dress up in a costume and throw a ball in a billion dollar climate controlled stadium.

Sounds pretty smart to me!

24 posted on 08/09/2009 9:34:09 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Counter-productive thy name is Critical Mass.


25 posted on 08/09/2009 9:35:03 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: HIDEK6

It only shows the misplaced values in our society. Few things chafe me more than tax dollars being spent on pro sports teams who charge $300 a ticket when I can’t ride my bike because the roads look like the victim of a Serbian mortar attack.


26 posted on 08/09/2009 9:35:56 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: gura
As a cyclist, let me be the first to say that Critical Mass is full of whiny pansy ass losers who lacked a father figure growing up.

Let me be the second. Serious cycling for transportation requires coexistence with cars, trucks and buses. It also requires always remembering what will happen in a confrontation with cars, trucks and buses.

The ignorant Gomers that yell "get on the sidewalk" are few and far between. Most motorists are rational enough to understand that if I wasn't next to you on the road on my bike, I'd be in front of you on the road in my car slowing down your commute. Why piss people off with idiotic stunts like this and turn them against you, when originally they barely noticed you?

27 posted on 08/09/2009 9:36:30 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: CrazyIvan

I recently had a group of about 8 cyclists, proceed to run a stop sign across a State Highway with a 55 mph speed limit.

I had to test the anti-locks on my F-250 SuperDuty 4X4 to keep from hitting the first one, the others stopped, but then thought they would keep me stopped while they proceeded. One almast ran into the side of me as I went on.

I can’t say I recall an Indiana law that gives cyclist absolute right of way on the roads.


28 posted on 08/09/2009 9:37:10 AM PDT by digger48
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To: gura

Hyperbole for emphasis?


29 posted on 08/09/2009 9:37:31 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: gura

> Cycling is one of the few sports left with real “hard men” in it. The NFL/MLB/NBA should just start handing out mandatory tiaras.

Rugby Union, Rugby League, Aussie Rules, Cricket, Ironman, Surf-Lifesaving and Surfing would be very hi on the list of “Real Man” sports, too.

Ironman has a significant cycling component.


30 posted on 08/09/2009 9:37:54 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Wow, maybe you should report all of the cyclists in this thread to flag@whitehouse.gov since you can’t be tolerant and respectful of the differing thoughts and action of your fellow citizens.

We should ban putting boats and RV’s on public roads too, since they’re also a slow and dangerous menace.


31 posted on 08/09/2009 9:38:26 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: null and void

Good for you, Nully!


32 posted on 08/09/2009 9:38:53 AM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: DogBarkTree; Morgana; Sherman Logan; gura
The driver of that vehicle was ultimately captured by the police and was drunk.
The driver narrowly missed police officers facilitating a planned event.
I believe two cyclists were killed in that DUI/DWI accident.
It is a real and unretouched photograph and it looks childish to post it on a serious F.R. thread. Concentrate efforts on the idiot Critical Mass statist libs instead.


33 posted on 08/09/2009 9:39:19 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"A 12-pack of beer was located in Fulks' backpack"

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What a PIKER!!

34 posted on 08/09/2009 9:40:42 AM PDT by BBell
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To: HIDEK6

Well of course. :-)


35 posted on 08/09/2009 9:41:14 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: CrazyIvan

I agree. I don’t understand the concept of doing something borderline-suicidal to be healthy. Makes about as much sense as skiing out of bounds.


36 posted on 08/09/2009 9:42:00 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I can only agree, those would be up there too.


37 posted on 08/09/2009 9:42:37 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The problem here is typified by the name of this irresponsible outfit - i.e. critical mass.

All the car/bike problems of which I’m aware stem from large group of cyclists riding en masse which changes the whole dynamic.

Laws should be written to make this sort of mass cycling illegal - unless it is done in such a way (e.g. deserted country roads) so as not to pose problems to other users of the roads.

I have no problems with individual cyclists or pairs of cyclists.

Assemblies of 20 or more cyclists using aggressive tactics to intimidate other users of the roads are where the problem lies and where people are going to hurt.

They should simply be made illegal.

This has nothing whatever to do with people wanting to enjoy the public roadways, or move to a healthier lifestyle.

Riding in large groups has everything to do with mob tactics.

My $.02.


38 posted on 08/09/2009 9:43:01 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
http://rapha.cc/glory-through-suffering
39 posted on 08/09/2009 9:43:33 AM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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To: gura

> Wow, maybe you should report all of the cyclists in this thread to flag@whitehouse.gov since you can’t be tolerant and respectful of the differing thoughts and action of your fellow citizens.

Aw, sure I can. I can be as tolerant and respectful of my fellow citizens as you like, as soon as my fellow bike-riding free-riding citizens pay their own way and obey the laws of the road just like everybody else.

Until they do “pay-and-obey” they are free-loading scoff-laws whose opinions of how the roads ought to operate are interesting but not overly relevant.


40 posted on 08/09/2009 9:43:52 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
don't forget the finger printing, waiting period and background check to buy a bike
41 posted on 08/09/2009 9:45:10 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I understand your position, and am familiar with that part of Texas. The recreational riders are major offenders in being road hogs, ever since one person tried taking over the Houston Bicycle Club. He ran a Virgin Century Training Series in the mid 90’s. He had his entire group riding 3 and 4 abreast on some of the FM roads in Montgomery and Grimes Counties, while going quite slow as well (~10 mph). Riders would not move over for traffic, even if someone called “car back” (the person who would call “car back” and expect the group to yield to the vehicle - basic courtesy - would be the target of some major personal attacks by the group leader). To top things off, the group would stop at one of the country stores (happened one time at Richards), take drinks and cookies out of the support van, and use the plumbing in the store without buying anything. MAJOR NOT COOL! Thanks to the leadership of this jerk, the racing community and the recreational cycling community were at major odds. The former due to not wanting to be associated with such behavior (a lot of times when we train we are wearing team kits with sponsors logos), the latter due to - call it “class resentment” - “how dare you be able to ride in fast pace lines, how dare you......”
The person who tried the takeover of Houston Bicycle Club dared to call himself a conservative.


42 posted on 08/09/2009 9:46:06 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
the above measures should exempt children under the age of eighteen, who should therefore ride on sidewalks

That's insanely dangerous. Here in Toronto 3/4 of all collisions between bicycles and cars occur on sidewalks (car pulls out of driveway and gets hit), and just a few days ago a woman was killed when a cyclist ran her down on the sidewalk. The safest thing to do is widen the curb lanes a foot or two (just a matter of moving the lines) so that cars can get around them.

43 posted on 08/09/2009 9:47:29 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: paul51

One bike per month.


44 posted on 08/09/2009 9:47:39 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DogBarkTree

Awesome pic!

That’ll wreck your whole day.


45 posted on 08/09/2009 9:48:29 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
We don't have much trouble with cyclist here in Dallas. At least since those Nine were chased down and eaten by a pride of F-150’s
46 posted on 08/09/2009 9:50:10 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ('Evil white devil since 1960')
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Laws should be written to make this sort of mass cycling illegal - unless it is done in such a way (e.g. deserted country roads) so as not to pose problems to other users of the roads.

Those laws are already on the books- most jurisdictions require cyclists to ride single file, so "packs" are illegal. Then there's the catch-all "impeding traffic" offence that applies to cars, bikes and pedestrians.

47 posted on 08/09/2009 9:52:09 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: DogBarkTree

Spandex is no defense against Detroit iron.


48 posted on 08/09/2009 9:52:19 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Hey, Mr. Obama, please don't kill my gramma! NO on socialist healthcare!)
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To: Morgana

Love your graphic.I wonder how many of these people are gay.


49 posted on 08/09/2009 9:53:49 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: Squawk 8888

> The safest thing to do is widen the curb lanes a foot or two (just a matter of moving the lines) so that cars can get around them.

The issue you’d encounter there is people parking in these widened lanes.

I hear what you say about the sidewalks.

Here in NZ the NZ Post delivers letters using small motorbikes (you guessed it) by driving on the sidewalk. It is definitely a discipline to watch out for them as they scoot around, when pulling out of the driveway. Bikes aren’t generally permitted on our sidewalks, but skateboards and mobility scooters are.

When it all boils up, the motorist does need to be careful for the hazards, no easy way around it.


50 posted on 08/09/2009 9:54:33 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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