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ELECTRONIC CONGRESS--CUT COSTS AND CORRUPTION; POLITICIANS WOULD VOTE, DEBATE FROM HOME
August 9, 2009 | Brad from Tennessee

Posted on 08/09/2009 3:16:26 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

Imagine what a different world we might live in if members of Congress rarely traveled outside their district or state and conducted the “peoples’ business” from a high-tech room in their home office that enabled them to debate, sit on committee, question witnesses and vote via teleconferencing. This idea for Congress and state legislatures is as old as the integrated circuit.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; congress; corruption; telecommuting; teleconferences; vanity
Imagine what a different world we might live in if members of Congress rarely traveled outside their district or state and conducted the “peoples’ business” from a high-tech room in their home office that enabled them to debate, sit on committee, question witnesses and vote via teleconferencing. This idea for Congress and state legislatures is as old as the integrated circuit.

Such a system would eliminate the high costs of constantly transporting, housing, and protecting 535 politicians, their staffs and families. It would also force members of Congress to practice some loyalty to, and feel the unique pains of the voters who elected them. Most senators and representatives today are more loyal to each other–including those across the aisle–than they are to their own constituents. A stay-at-home Congress would be less likely to adopt an imperial mind set fostered by a fawning Capitol press corps and White House dinners in regal settings.

An Electronic Congress would reduce the pressure lobbyists and other special interest groups have on Congress because Congress would be decentralized. In such a setting a senator wouldn’t have to run public opinion polls. He could simply drive around his state for a week, mingle with the people, and he would get their unvarnished viewpoint.

The Electronic Congress could also drastically reduce the size and costs of congressional “fact-finding” trips to all corners of the globe. Instead of loading 20 senators, representatives, staff and family members on a jet bound for foreign destinations, send small teams of specially-trained bureaucrats with equipment that gives the politician a picture of what’s happening on the ground in Paris, Rome or Tahiti and two-way voice communications with natives on the ground.

The Electronic Congress would also become a super C-Span. Citizens and watchdogs could tap into the system and access the most minute actions and discussions of the legislative process. I’ve e-mailed Glenn Beck at: me@glennbeck.com. If he gets a few more e-mails he may look into this. E-mail addresses for senators and U.S. reps are at: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt. —Brad from Tennessee

1 posted on 08/09/2009 3:16:26 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I would rather we go to an “Electric Congress”. Democrats can vote yes by tapping the black wire and no by tapping the white wire. Republicans and vote yes by tapping the green wire and no by tapping the white wire.


2 posted on 08/09/2009 3:18:24 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

I dunno.

I’ll think about it


3 posted on 08/09/2009 3:18:44 PM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I have been for breaking up Washington DC power for years. I think the government should not all be in the same place just like term limits should be applied. Congress should not get such big pension and perks. They are there to represent the people of America; not a selected few(them included).


4 posted on 08/09/2009 3:20:50 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I love it. With twice a year sessions for 2 weeks in DC.

The ONLY reason Congress is all together in the nation’s capital is because the Pony Express took too long back then. These are supposed to be our LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES, something most of them are assuredly NOT. Each has a “second home” in their districts.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 3:22:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“From now on, we only work at the Congressional Brothels.”

6 posted on 08/09/2009 3:22:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Not to mention the wear and tear on sectaries, little boys and little girls and goats.
7 posted on 08/09/2009 3:23:04 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: freekitty

In the early 90s Rep John Kasich (R-Ohio) spent a lot of time putting together just such a plan. He’s pretty hard working and enthusiastic but couldn’t get any encouragement or support from anyone outside the class of ‘94.


8 posted on 08/09/2009 3:24:23 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Brad from Tennessee
......that is if their home is still standing......
9 posted on 08/09/2009 3:28:13 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Brad from Tennessee

If there is any chance they could electrocute themselves, I’m all for it !


10 posted on 08/09/2009 3:28:13 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Kanzan

Hey Brad I don’t like a damn thing about Electronic CCC-P. It sounds like a new version of CCCP without a dash.


11 posted on 08/09/2009 3:29:04 PM PDT by hflynn (The One is really the Number Two)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

My employer has us all on an eCampus portal that we sign up for Webex sessions. This has cut costs dramatically. In some cases the training requires us to be on site to train, but the majority of the training is all Webex sessions.

I am sure we can get a software engineer to design a cozy virtual airplane flight for Stretch!


12 posted on 08/09/2009 3:32:29 PM PDT by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I want them all in one place.

Just in case...

13 posted on 08/09/2009 3:34:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’ve been saying this for years Brad. If congress critters had to walk out the door and be face to face with their constituants on a daily basis things would change.


14 posted on 08/09/2009 3:37:20 PM PDT by McGavin999 (How's that change old Hopey Dope promised you working out?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
It will not work with our present congress critters! No media cameras to run to and lie to us from their smiling faces on the evening news!
15 posted on 08/09/2009 3:41:38 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

535 people plus staff for each, all removed from DC intantly, their homes and offices vacated. I wonder if that would have an effect on the DC economy?


16 posted on 08/09/2009 3:43:58 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

This would be the very best way for a congressperson to stay close to their constituents and vote according to their wishes more often.

This move would save our nation billions of dollars annually.

Of course, nobody in Congress would allow for this to take place.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 3:45:32 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: klimeckg
[My employer has us all on an eCampus portal that we sign up for Webex sessions. This has cut costs dramatically.]

Plea hearings, parole hearings, depositions and other court business is being conducted via cameras. Along with corporate teleconferences and the training you describe, buyers can attend auctions electronically and bid on cars, livestock, etc.

18 posted on 08/09/2009 3:54:46 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Good Lord no, the crooks in DC would have all kinds of time to think up nonsense, a simple email could call everyone to vote, and legislation would be enacted.


19 posted on 08/09/2009 3:55:24 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
"ELECTRONIC CONGRESS--CUT COSTS AND CORRUPTION; POLITICIANS WOULD VOTE, DEBATE FROM HOME"

I've a better idea:

ELECTROCUTE CONGRESS--CUT COSTS AND CORRUPTION!

20 posted on 08/09/2009 3:57:53 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Only problem I can see is this would allow the congress to stay in session longer than it does now. Personally, I can’t see us paying congresscritters for more than a month’s worth of work a year, so I sure couldn’t ask them to be in session longer than that.


21 posted on 08/09/2009 3:58:37 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I see a hacker oligarchy emerging...


22 posted on 08/09/2009 4:07:15 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: RKV; All

[Only problem I can see is this would allow the congress to stay in session longer than it does now.]

Congress won’t vote for this idea anyway. It would have to be done by constitutional amendment which could include term limits, caps on pay and expenses, restricting junkets, and eliminating lavish retirement benefits. That’s easier said than done but the public is in the mood.


23 posted on 08/09/2009 4:11:28 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
This has been feasible for a long time. What we need is incentive. If each state were to base eligibility on a stricter residence requirement, it could solve the problem.

To be eligible to be a Representative, the politician should be required to spend over half of each of the previous two years, actually in the district they represent. Senators should be required to spend over half of each of the previous six years, in the state they represent.

24 posted on 08/09/2009 4:12:45 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

I like the way your thinking SIR!


25 posted on 08/09/2009 4:21:05 PM PDT by goodtomato (I'm blessed!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Throw in L.Neil Smith’s concept of letting constituents select which Congress Critter gets to represent them on a Specific Bill, and you’ve got something.

Should my congress-critter declare his intent to worship at the Church of The Profit Gore; I’d like the right to be represented by a “non-GREEN” from another State {on those issues}.

If 40% of those represented by Mr. Waxman, e-switched to a “Drill Here, Drill Now” Critter; Waxman could cast only 6/10s of Vote for His own bill.Some other Critters would be casting the other 4/10s....Yeah, I’m daydreaming, again. Daydreams are far more hopeful than Headlines.


26 posted on 08/09/2009 4:47:11 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Wow, have you been snooping in my brain? I’ve had this same idea. These people were never meant to be pampered elite living in DC and visiting “home”. They should live with those who are affected by the votes they cast.


27 posted on 08/09/2009 8:46:40 PM PDT by buschbaby (I am the mob.)
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To: buschbaby
[These people were never meant to be pampered elite living in DC and visiting “home”.]

Members of Congress are like cockroaches. Once established they are very difficult to remove. Tom Foley (D) spent 30 years in Congress. When the voters of Washington State imposed congressional term limits by referendum, Foley took them to federal court. The court found term limits to be unconstitutional. Fortunately, Foley got flushed in 1994 along with a lot of other political feces.

Wikipedia:

[. . .Foley repeatedly opposed efforts to impose term limits on Washington state's elected officials, winning the support of the state's voters to reject term limits in a 1991 referendum. However, in 1992, a term limit ballot initiative was approved by the state's voters. . .Foley brought suit, challenging the constitutionality of a state law setting eligibility requirements on federal offices. Foley won his suit, with federal courts declaring that states did not have the authority under the U.S. Constitution to limit the terms of federal officeholders.]

28 posted on 08/09/2009 10:33:08 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: padre35

[. . .a simple email could call everyone to vote, and legislation would be enacted.]

That’s what they did in February on the “stimulus” act. The only real debate took place behind closed doors with agents of the White House, the unions and lobbyists telling these clowns what to put in the bill.


29 posted on 08/09/2009 11:05:13 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Carry_Okie
[I want them all in one place. Just in case...]

The wisest decision Al Qaeda made on 9/11 was to leave Congress intact.

30 posted on 08/09/2009 11:07:51 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The wisest decision Al Qaeda made on 9/11 was to leave Congress intact.

There will come a time, my son, when the electronics will be so good we won't know if the Congressperson on the screen is real or not, and neither will the rest of their peers. Hence, your "advanced" idea is truly backward, an open invitation for the worst kind of mischief.

Sorry, I want them in one place. That way we can arrest them all at once if necessary. :-)

31 posted on 08/09/2009 11:33:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie

There are differing paper models for this idea. One was formulated after 9/11 so Congress could function if Washington DC was no longer safe. This is a PDF:

http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RS21140.pdf


32 posted on 08/10/2009 1:06:13 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Interesting. If you get to wanting to gather intel for a committee electronically, IMHO you would as a Congressman want to be able to control the camera from home, not merely take the view given by some cameraman.

While we're on the subject of electronic decision making by geographically diverse people, I would want the Constitution amended so that in the event of a presidential impeachment the jury of the president's peers would not be legislators known as "senators" but executives known as governors. That way if the charge was Clintonesqe and the defense was "It's just about sex," it would not be legislators but governors who would have to imply that they reserved the right to do the same thing if they voted to acquit.

I would note as well that we already have a version of your proposal in the "Presidential Debates." And journalism systematically puts its thumb on the scale by controlling the topics discussed and exactly who can speak when. Journalists would always reject any other approach which would cut them out of the loop and diminish the influence of their profession. But since journalists don't control the Internet, there is absolutely no reason why a Republican could not challenge his Democratic opponent to Internet debates in which the time would be divided by chess clock, the participants would not be forbidden to make/use notes, and the participants would not be disadvantaged if they limited themselves to virtual presence - so their campaign schedules need not be affected. So it would be practical to have many debates.


33 posted on 08/10/2009 3:12:13 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
You have good ideas. The proposal of governors composing an impeachment court is intriguing. It takes from the legislative branch—who brings the indictment—the responsibility of judgment and gives it to the states.

[. . .you would as a Congressman want to be able to control the camera from home, not merely take the view given by some cameraman.]

You're probably familiar with advances in the miniaturization of aerial drones and their cameras.

34 posted on 08/10/2009 12:00:59 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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