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What Was Clinton's Deal With North Korea? (Did Clinton simply secure the release of the women?)
Human Events ^ | 8/8/2009 | Oliver North

Posted on 08/09/2009 5:15:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Former President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton has returned from Pyongyang, North Korea, with Al Gore's employees Laura Ling and Euna Lee. The two women, reporters for Gore's Current TV operation, were seized by North Korean border guards March 17 along the frozen Tumen River -- the border between North Korea and China. On June 8, following a five-day "trial," Pyongyang's Central Court convicted the women of "committing hostilities against the Korean nation and illegal entry" and sentenced them to 12 years' hard labor.

On Tuesday, Aug. 4, Mr. Clinton, accompanied by a doctor and his former chief of staff John Podesta, arrived in Pyongyang aboard real estate mogul, Hollywood producer and Democratic Party donor Stephen Bing's private jet. On arrival at Pyongyang's nearly deserted Sunan International Airport, they were met by Kim Kye Gwan, North Korea's longtime senior nuclear negotiator. Twenty hours later, after what the North Korean media described as "exhaustive" talks with "Dear Leader" Kim Jong Il, the 68-year-old dictator issued a "special pardon," and Mr. Clinton headed home with Ling and Lee.

It is good that the women are reunited with their families and loved ones. Their release is being hailed by the White House as a "great gesture," and kudos is being showered on Mr. Clinton for his "initiative." The Obama administration maintains that North Korean press reports that Mr. Clinton conveyed a message from Mr. Obama "expressing apologies ... profound thanks ... and ways of improving the relations between the two countries" are untrue. Though the Clinton aircraft was refueled at U.S. Air Force bases in Alaska and Japan, the O-Team insists that the former president and party were on a strictly "private humanitarian mission" and that "there was no quid pro quo" for the release.

We all know better. The smile pasted on Kim Jong Il's face in the "official photographs" taken with Mr. Clinton tell the story. A price was paid. The North Koreans know what it is. The Obama administration knows what it is. But the American people don't -- and we won't unless transcripts of the Clinton-Kim Jong Il "conversations" are released. Don't count on that happening soon. The administration that promised to be "the most transparent in history" has made secrecy in foreign affairs a way of life.

In principle, there is nothing wrong with democratic governments engaging in secret diplomacy. Ben Franklin's covert negotiations with the government of Louis XVI resulted in the French monarchy's becoming our ally in the American Revolution. President Franklin D. Roosevelt made clandestine arrangements with London to aid the British against Nazi Germany before the United States entered World War II. In those -- and innumerable other cases -- the U.S. has engaged in secret diplomacy with allies to confound common adversaries, and the American people are not told about it until years -- sometimes decades -- later. But when our government conducts a covert contact with an opponent -- even for a humanitarian purpose, such as freeing hostages -- it nearly always blows up in our faces. I should know.

Here's why secret government negotiations with "bad guys" like the regime in Pyongyang so often go wrong:

First, those who hold the "prisoners" or "hostages" want something in return. When the captors get what they deem to be an acceptable offer, the captives are released. The very process of negotiating a "price," or ransom, for the life or freedom of an American citizen is a painful process. I know that, too.

In the 1980s, when the Iranians controlled the fate of Americans being bludgeoned and battered in Beirut dungeons, the price was 500 Israeli TOW missiles. In this week's case, the ransom may have been the Kim-Clinton photo op, the legitimacy bestowed on the aging dictator by the visit of a former U.S. president, a sub rosa "apology" and an implied commitment to open direct U.S.-North Korea "talks." It may not be as tangible as money, but it's still a ransom.

Second, in our government, nothing stays secret for long. The U.S. official "negotiator" and the captor initially may be the only ones who know what is being demanded and offered. But the U.S. government is ultimately vulnerable to the hostage holder's decision to make public anything it wants -- true or false -- about what the U.S. side was willing to give. Pyongyang already has disputed the O-Team's version of what Mr. Clinton said.

Finally, when a government pays ransom -- political or otherwise -- it establishes a precedent other adversaries will replicate. That's why most "hostage negotiations" -- such as those for crews held captive by Somali pirates -- are conducted by trusted private emissaries, not highly visible former heads of state. Plausible deniability really does matter.

Seeing as the O-Team apparently has decided to forgo all of these hard-learned lessons, perhaps it should try a similar gambit with Tehran. The Iranian regime currently holds three American hikers -- Joshua Fattal, Shane Bower and Sara Short -- for "illegally entering the Islamic republic." Sound familiar?

Bill Clinton, call home. Your wife wants to send you on another trip.

-- Lt. Col. North (Ret.) is a nationally syndicated columnist and the author of the FOX News/Regnery books, "War Stories: Operation Iraqi Freedom," "War Stories II: Heroism in the Pacific" and "War Stories III: The Heroes Who Defeated Hitler."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clinton; diplomacy; hostages; kimjongil; northkorea; quidproquo; soshillary; x42

1 posted on 08/09/2009 5:15:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I find this statement written by a person named, OLIVER NORTH to be filled with Irony :

“Here’s why secret government negotiations with “bad guys” like the regime in Pyongyang so often go wrong:”


2 posted on 08/09/2009 5:17:12 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
What part of "I should know" do you find ironic. Or didn't you get to the end of the paragraph.
3 posted on 08/09/2009 5:23:59 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey Ollie. It's already been documented that there was back-channel discussions about the release. It already was a done deal before Clinton left the USA.
Clinton went there to ‘collect’ them.
4 posted on 08/09/2009 5:24:49 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama's Plan B - Payday Loans)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we all know there was a ‘smoky back room’ deal. We just don’t know what, yet.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 5:26:27 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

I just want to know how grateful Bill expected the girls to be on the flight home.


6 posted on 08/09/2009 5:30:31 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: stylin19a

Is the release of two Americans worth the backroom deal ? *THAT* is the all important question...


7 posted on 08/09/2009 5:34:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“”they were met by Kim Kye Gwan, North Korea’s longtime senior nuclear negotiator.””

Doesn’t this statement tell us what they got in return? Clinton must have taken his bag of goodies he had left over when he “negotiated” with them in the ‘90’s!


8 posted on 08/09/2009 5:34:53 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
Clinton must have taken his bag of goodies he had left over when he “negotiated” with them in the ‘90’s!

We can always reneged on our "promises" AFTER the hostages have been released. No need to worry about honor with a terror supporting regime. After all, we are dealing with dishonorable people here.
9 posted on 08/09/2009 5:37:23 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Richard Kimball

One FReeper thought they might need counselling after getting off the plane, LOL.


10 posted on 08/09/2009 5:44:34 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nude pictures of Lewinsky maybe!!
11 posted on 08/09/2009 5:48:37 PM PDT by org.whodat (Vote: Chuck De Vore in 2012.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Give brow job, then rerease journarists.”


12 posted on 08/09/2009 5:51:38 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: stylin19a

These things are always totally arranged before the public move. The question here is what was the price? Do we now help NK with its nuclear arms program or just stop verbally opposing it?


13 posted on 08/09/2009 5:56:24 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Marysecretary

perhaps we agreed to purchase NK’s entire output of USD $100 bills.


14 posted on 08/09/2009 5:57:35 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: arthurus

LOL. We probably won’t know until it’s too late.


15 posted on 08/09/2009 6:01:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ollie is admitting “arms for hostages” was a big, fat, stupid mistake. But he could have gone into greater detail.

Nothing like a few big ransoms to turn hostage-taking into a growth industry. That is certainly what happened in Beirut.


16 posted on 08/09/2009 7:29:59 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: arthurus

That makes sense, actually.

Since we’re soon going to be printing money round-the-clock like the Weimar Germans, perhaps we could hire the Norks excess printing capacity.

After all, their “supernotes” are supposed to be the world’s finest counterfeit.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 7:33:29 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

Some of the smaller countries in Asia, while they welcome American money, won’t accept or change $11 bills because so many of them are NK and apparently only the US Treasury has the equipment to tell the difference. With all the changes and enhancements to make it difficult to counterfeit the bills, the counterfeits incorporating the latest changes sometimes beat the real ones to the street.


18 posted on 08/10/2009 5:21:30 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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