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Globe: Obama's Hawaiian birth document fake
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 10, 2009 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 08/09/2009 5:35:17 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The supermarket tabloid the Globe features a cover story this week proclaiming Barack Obama's "official birth document" a fake and suggesting the president may actually have been born in Canada.

The Globe, known for sensationalism and entertainment scandals, cites reports by unnamed document analysts as claiming the Hawaiian certification of live birth the Obama campaign distributed to select news agencies and websites is fraudulent. The blogosphere has been rife with such allegations for 10 months.

It also cites WND's reporting about the changing stories about the hospital in which Obama was born. Despite assertions Obama was born in Honolulu, officially no hospital claims him. A letter from Obama saying he was born in Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu was used in fundraising brochure earlier this year and posted on the hospital's official website, but when WND asked for confirmation, the institution pulled down the letter without explanation.

The Globe also quotes Canadian broadcaster Brian Barron as saying Obama's mother gave birth to the child in Vancouver, Canada, before transferring as a student to the University of Washington in Seattle.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; obamanoncitizenissue
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1 posted on 08/09/2009 5:35:18 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

More disinformation tactics by Obama?


2 posted on 08/09/2009 5:39:20 PM PDT by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: RobinMasters

I love it. Keep watching this space!


3 posted on 08/09/2009 5:40:22 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: RobinMasters

Sure seems likes no country actually wants to take credit for the commie Rat. Kenya doesn’t. Hawaii doesn’t. Now Canada doesn’t either. Maybe Jo-bama is actually a Mexican.


4 posted on 08/09/2009 5:45:02 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (YES WE CAN have a Depression.)
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To: RobinMasters

Until I see some authentic evidence that he was born somewhere else, this is a waste of time.


5 posted on 08/09/2009 5:49:30 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: kidd

No, I don’t think so. I find it very strange his mother was registering for classes in Washington only 15 days after Obama was born (supposedly thousands of miles away in Hawaii).


6 posted on 08/09/2009 5:52:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: popdonnelly

I am sick of seeing this stuff. I have no idea if it is true or not, but man oh man is it getting OLD!


7 posted on 08/09/2009 5:52:50 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: RobinMasters

LOL, now the people who voted for Obama will finally start reading about this issue.


8 posted on 08/09/2009 5:53:30 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: popdonnelly

Actually this is the first step in the tabloid’s going after ZERO. He has been kind of off limits since he was running for office. No good headlines so I look at this as the beginning of the gloves coming off.

The tabloids were right about Edwards when the MSM were crickets. They may have more credibility then the MSM now! :)

I am to the stage if it is negative on ZERO, I am for it!


9 posted on 08/09/2009 5:54:32 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: kidd

OK - This is getting down-right weird! Born in CANADA???
I get it NOW! If you make us look for a BC in Hawaii, no one will look in CANADA!

NOW - Anyone in Canada know his mom about the time he was born???


10 posted on 08/09/2009 5:54:55 PM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: RobinMasters

Hawaii gives out "BC"s for foreigners born overseas!!!!.


Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report
"The Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii
In the State of Hawaii, back in 1961, there were four different ways to get an “original birth certificate” on record.
BC1. If the birth was attended by a physician or mid wife, the attending medical professional was required to certify to the Department of Health the facts of the birth date, location, parents’ identities and other information. (See Section 57-8 & 9 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

BC2. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.”
It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in.
In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9)
.... there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.

BC3. In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then, up to the first birthday of the child, a “Delayed Certificate” could be filed, which required that “a summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for delayed filing or the alteration [of a file] shall be endorsed on the certificates”, which “evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.”
The statute provided that “the probative value of a ‘delayed’ or ‘altered’ certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.” (See Section 57- 9, 18, 19 & 20 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).”

BC4. If a child is born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult (including the subject person [i.e. the birth child as an adult]) if the Office of the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year.
(See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961.)
In 1955 the “secretary of the Territory” was in charge of this procedure. In 1960 it was transferred to the Office of the Lieutenant Governor (“the lieutenant governor, or his secretary, or such other person as he may designate or appoint from his office” §338-41 [in 1961]).

In 1982, the vital records law was amended to create a fifth kind of “original birth certificate”. Under Act 182 H.B. NO. 3016-82, “Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that the proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.”
In this way “state policies and procedures” accommodate even “children born out of State” (this is the actual language of Act 182) with an “original birth certificate on record.”

11 posted on 08/09/2009 5:55:09 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: popdonnelly

Why won’t Obama release the following documents? When will they be released?

1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent’s marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. Access to his grandmother (Obama’s grandmother has since passed away from cancer)
18. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
19. Punahou grade school records


12 posted on 08/09/2009 5:55:40 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: RobinMasters

Wonder what’s up with the witnesses [most are dead now] that was at his birth in Kenya? He is a Kenyan...I use to think he was born in Canada at a home for unwed Mom’s and she changed her mind and kept him instead of giving him up for adoption. All this does is confuse the issue. His allegiance is NOT for America....he is a Foreign National...


13 posted on 08/09/2009 5:57:39 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: popdonnelly
Until I see some authentic evidence that he was born somewhere else, this is a waste of time.

LOL, since the problem is that he hasn't shown the authentic evidence that he was born here.

Nice try at a concept reversal, though - slick.

14 posted on 08/09/2009 5:58:22 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: RobinMasters

Anyone one have a link to what obie’s has spent fighting the BC lawsuits?


15 posted on 08/09/2009 5:58:53 PM PDT by hope (don't listen to what they say..watch what they do.)
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To: devane617
I am sick of seeing this stuff. I have no idea if it is true or not, but man oh man is it getting OLD!

There are medications available for Attention Deficit Disorder.

Seek help.

16 posted on 08/09/2009 5:59:46 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: RobinMasters

Can’t always believe the tabloids, but the National Enquirer has broken some big stories, like Edwards and the love child.


17 posted on 08/09/2009 6:01:20 PM PDT by tips up
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To: RobinMasters
The supermarket tabloid the Globe features a cover story this week proclaiming Barack Obama's "official birth document" a fake and suggesting the president may actually have been born in Canada.

The Globe huh? Well that settles that! </sarcasm>

18 posted on 08/09/2009 6:02:57 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Talisker

personal attacks are not necessary. another example of one that signed up late last year in the middle of a disruption...makes one wonder...


19 posted on 08/09/2009 6:05:31 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: RobinMasters
Did the Globe article say who Zer0's daddy was? Add that to the list of questions for our Manchurian Mystery Man President. So far we get Zer0 answers which is fitting for someone we call Zer0.
20 posted on 08/09/2009 6:09:42 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: RobinMasters

Now we’re reduced to running stuff from The Globe. Instead of continuing the momentum from last wek, let’s run down a story from the Globe. What’s next? George van Tassel and Donald Keyhoe return from the grave holding photos from Argosy magazine showing Obama was born on Venus.


21 posted on 08/09/2009 6:10:54 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: real_patriotic_american

Brt


22 posted on 08/09/2009 6:13:50 PM PDT by mel
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s not so strange. NW Orient’s DC8s made the trip from Honolulu to Seattle a couple of times a day. One six hour flight leaves Duhnam plenty of time to locate her friends, get settled and register.


23 posted on 08/09/2009 6:14:32 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: RobinMasters


24 posted on 08/09/2009 6:16:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: devane617
"I am sick of seeing this stuff. I have no idea if it is true or not, but man oh man is it getting OLD!"

For many of us it is as entertaining as a mystery novel. Information whether big or small is one more piece of the puzzle. I am thinking that there is a large amount of circumstantial evidence to solve this thing. It would be a great project for a person with detective experience to solve. The book on how it was solved would make millions.

25 posted on 08/09/2009 6:17:58 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

...and I will guaranty that there are many doing exactly as you suggest. They want to be the one to break it open. That’s why I am confident—with time—the truth will come out.


26 posted on 08/09/2009 6:21:05 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: RobinMasters
This is so much fun.

Even if the whole Kenya-Canada birth issue is a pile of BS, it still makes Democrats and the White House squirm with agitation.

Hey, Obama....

Release your “Long Form” Hawaii birth certificate.....today!

27 posted on 08/09/2009 6:21:55 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: devane617
personal attacks are not necessary. another example of one that signed up late last year in the middle of a disruption...makes one wonder...

Wonder all you want. But wandering into a thread about a particular subject, only to declare yourself tired of the subject, is disruptive towards those trying to discuss that subject.

So, you are either a deliberate disrupter of that topic, or you have a personal problem. Since I would NEVER accuse you of intentionally disrupting a subject, I instead suggested that you seek effective therapy for what ails you.

Now, on the other hand, your deciding that my sign-up date is somehow relevant seems to be a very personal targeting comment on your part, and it seems to be associated with a negative, dismissive implication towards my character. In other words, a personal attack.

So I say in response to you: knock off the personal attacks, and either get help for your problem or, if you don't have a problem, stop trying to disrupt the thread.

28 posted on 08/09/2009 6:24:28 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: RobinMasters
The story that will not die. It has a new twist every week. Why don't people compare "The Obama's" to a soap opera?

It has every thing. It has a rich, powerful and ruthless pater familia. It has a fashionable, rich, ruthless mater familia. It has Antie Zeituni on the lam from the law and then back in her home. It has the no-good half-brother living in his "Hut, Sweet Hut". It has crazy Uncle Joe, who says the wildest things, half of the time, it's the untellable truth.

It has slimy, rich and ruthless underlings, (Rahmbo and Axelrod) ready to kneecap anyone for the boss. And there's an endless cycle of bit players in and out of the show.

Now, "The Obama's" hit the tabloids with questions about the Big Boss's parentage and whether he legally inherited the family business.

As sands through the hour glass, The Obama's are the days of our lives.

29 posted on 08/09/2009 6:28:46 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: real_patriotic_american

real_patriotic,

Let me suggest 3 more items for your 19 item “Release” list.

20. His SAT scores

21. His LSAT scores (for law school admission)

22. All notes and drafts for his two books


30 posted on 08/09/2009 6:31:24 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Chode

31 posted on 08/09/2009 6:32:09 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: zeestephen

Thanks bud! Added as suggested!

Documents not released by Obama:

1. Certified copy of original birth certificate
2. Columbia University transcripts
3. Columbia thesis paper
4. Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5. Harvard University transcripts
6. Illinois State Senate records
7. Illinois State Senate schedule
8. Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9. Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers
10. Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11. Occidental College Transcripts
12. Parent’s marriage Certificate
13. Record of baptism
14. Selective Service registration records
15. Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16. Scholarly articles
17. Access to his grandmother (Obama’s grandmother has since passed away from cancer)
18. List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
19. Punahou grade school records
20. His SAT scores
21. His LSAT scores (for law school admission)
22. All notes and drafts for his two books


32 posted on 08/09/2009 6:39:16 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: tips up

“Can’t always believe the tabloids, but the National Enquirer has broken some big stories, like Edwards and the love child.”

If I’m not mistaken, NI also broke the story on The Rev-rund Jaaack-suunnn and his dalliance and love chile.....and the hush money he paid to his mistress to keep mum about it!


33 posted on 08/09/2009 6:43:37 PM PDT by Tucker39 (I Tim. 1:15b " .....Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.")
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To: RobinMasters
I thought this was mercifully over.

sigh

34 posted on 08/09/2009 6:51:45 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: jonrick46

Yeah, the book could be a sequel to “Angels and Demons” with Freepers as the angels and BHO and ACORN as the demons. Ha.


35 posted on 08/09/2009 6:51:57 PM PDT by enviros_kill (Counter the culture and the oppression of regression)
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To: jonrick46
Information whether big or small is one more piece of the puzzle.

“Information is the currency of democracy.” Thomas Jefferson

36 posted on 08/09/2009 6:55:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: xkaydet65
It is my theory, and I stress theory, that Obama Sr and Stanley Ann went to Kenya to get the blessing of Hussein Onyango Obama (grandfather to baby Obama) in person. Hussein Onyango was not at all happy with the marriage of his son to a white woman. This hatred of whites comes from his torture by British soldiers when he was a cook for the British army. The marriage presented Obama Sr with a major difficulty: it risked further financial support from his father and his continued education at the University of Hawaii.

I believe that Obama Sr obeyed his father's wishes and decided to end his marriage to Stanley Ann. I believe that Hussein Onyango set it up so that Stanley Ann could continue her education at another University apart from Obama Sr. It was decided that Stanley Ann would go to the University of Washington and Barack Sr would continue his education at the University of Hawaii. I think that Stanley Ann got financial assistance from the wealthy Hussein Onyango for the plane fare and money to establish herself in Seattle.

I believe that Stanley Ann went to the airport for the trip back to Seattle. I think it was by a British Overseas Airways jet (it was this airlines that promoted Kenyan safari vacations in that day) that would take her first to London and then on a polar route to Vancouver BC. However, British Overseas Airways ran their airline like a military operation. Everything had to be prim and proper: No women in their ninth month of pregnancy could be allowed to fly. She needed to have their baby first and then fly. So, Stanley Ann had her baby in Kenya. That would make baby Obama a British subject and his citizenship passed from the father to the son.

Has anyone thought about finding evidence that puts Barack Sr and Stanley Ann in Kenya in the Summer of 1961?

37 posted on 08/09/2009 6:56:31 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: xkaydet65
xkay,

Obama claimed in his book that his father and mother lived together as man and wife for more than a year in Hawaii after his birth in 1961.

Therefore, the fact that University of Washington documents and witness statements show his mother was living alone in Seattle 15 days after Obama’s birth is...well...kind of strange.

38 posted on 08/09/2009 7:00:00 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

At this point, we must assume that his book was so much hokem to gloriyy him so he could win sympathy and admiration from voters.


39 posted on 08/09/2009 7:02:32 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: RobinMasters

How popular is the theory that Frank Marshal Davis is Obama’s real father?


40 posted on 08/09/2009 7:04:00 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: jonrick46

Grandmother states she was present when Obama was born in Kenya. Stories have Obama’s mother spending time at the beach in Kenya just prior to his birth. No one claims to have seen Obama’s mother anywhere else after she dropped out of the University of Hawaii in the fall of 1960.


41 posted on 08/09/2009 7:05:26 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: popdonnelly
Until I see some authentic evidence that he was born somewhere else, this is a waste of time.

The burden of proof isn't on someone to prove he isn't a natural born citizen. It is incumbent upon the individual seeking office to prove he or she is a natural born citizen. BO has refused to meet that burden of proof.
42 posted on 08/09/2009 7:12:06 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: jonrick46
Some geographic items I just researched. The range of the newest and longest ranged Comet in 1961 was 6700 klics. The air distance betwen London UK and Vancouver BC is 7600 klics. Disclaimer. The air travel website doesn't specify Polar route, but I think it's a fair guesstimate that they are using polar route calculations.
43 posted on 08/09/2009 7:17:48 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: popdonnelly
Until I see some authentic evidence that he was born somewhere else, this is a waste of time.

Out of all this, all it take is one state to insist on "long form" birth certificate proof for natural born citizenship. When Obama runs for re-election, he will have to submit that to be on the ballot in that state. How about it, say, Oklahoma or maybe Texas? Yeah, I want something to happen before 2012 if there's some citizenship hanky panky here, but this is a BIG step toward honoring our constitution so this mess doesn't happen again and will at least force Zero to some verification.
44 posted on 08/09/2009 7:19:24 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: Richard Kimball
he run out of Cheesy Poofs???
45 posted on 08/09/2009 7:27:44 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: RobinMasters

Nice post RobinMasters.

To all you Freepers who are sick of reading posts about the birth certificate:

Stop reading posts about the birth certificate.

Ain’t freedom grand ?


46 posted on 08/09/2009 7:34:21 PM PDT by crescen7 (game on)
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To: RobinMasters

Wasn’t there a story about news people in Canada being told to shut up during the campaign. Anyway, the story is getting interesting and he still has something to hide.


47 posted on 08/09/2009 7:40:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: xkaydet65

My information is it is about 5,000 miles over the polar route with the ability to land in Greenland for refueling. I suspect that a stop in Greenland for those Kenyan safari vacationers was in order anyway.


48 posted on 08/09/2009 7:45:58 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: popdonnelly

World Net Daily and The Globe, those stalwarts of accurate journalism. sarcasm


49 posted on 08/09/2009 7:53:32 PM PDT by mono
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To: jonrick46
Has anyone thought about finding evidence that puts Barack Sr and Stanley Ann in Kenya in the Summer of 1961?

Yes about 80% of freepers thought about it and maybe 10% have tried. Whats your suggestion?

50 posted on 08/09/2009 7:57:30 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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