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Assaulted by sex-ed
Washington Times ^ | August 10, 2009 | Rebecca Hagelin

Posted on 08/10/2009 9:57:29 AM PDT by rhema

Culture Challenge of the Week: Immoral Sex Indoctrination

Much of what is being taught to our young girls and boys in sex-education classes is too graphic and vulgar to be quoted in the newspaper.

For that, you can blame Planned Parenthood, Advocates for Youth, and the Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS). The content of sex-education programs is dominated by these groups, which instruct our children on how to perform sexual acts, including homosexuality and sadomasochism. Their materials promote a radical political agenda, are highly pornographic, encourage our children to be sexually active and are largely devoid of biological and medical information.

To fully grasp the problem, read Dr. Miriam Grossman's new book, "You're Teaching My Child What?" It is a shocking and maddening expose of how our children are being brainwashed by perverted and immoral sex propagandists.

Do I sound like an alarmist? Read the book, scan through your own child's sex-ed materials, and then let's talk. You'll probably become an "alarmist," too.

Here are just two of the hundreds of carefully documented facts from Dr. Grossman's book: When exposing Planned Parenthood's timetable of when kids should be taught what, she writes, "They instruct parents to tell 5-year-olds about intercourse, though explaining orgasm can wait until he's finished kindergarten." And for sadomasochism? Educators often send teen girls to a Web site that says, "Though it may seem painful, those involved find the pleasure outweighs the pain."

How To Save Your Family from Sex Instructors:

Let's be clear: If you have a child in public school, he or she will likely be subjected to pornographic, immoral and medically false sex instruction unless you intervene. If you do nothing, your child will be forced to sit at a desk while an authority figure and/or educational materials violate

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: academicbias; ageofconsent; antichristian; arth; corruptingaminor; education; homeschooling; ifitfeelsgooddohim; indoctrination; itsjustsex; miriamgrossman; moralabsolutes; plannedparenthood; publiceducation; publicschools; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren; siecus; teensex
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1 posted on 08/10/2009 9:57:29 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

Homeschool.

My girls know all the biology. They as questions come up, I answer them truthfully.

Lots of times I hear “EWWWW”
I feel that is age appropriate.


2 posted on 08/10/2009 9:59:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

Speaking of “Ewww”, a friend said the other day after her 10 year old leaned how babies are actually born, she swears she will only adopt ;-)


3 posted on 08/10/2009 10:03:27 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: wagglebee

Sex positive indoctrination PING

your tax dollars at work

The goal isn’t to see unwanted pregnancies a thing of the past. It is to see everyone sexually active at every age and an end to all moral judgements over all sexual pairings regardless of sex, age, relation, marital status, number, or species of partner(s).


4 posted on 08/10/2009 10:03:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: rhema

But it’s free babysitting!
If you care about your child’s future, and America’s, you will not surrender them to public education. Period.


5 posted on 08/10/2009 10:04:24 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: bigbob

I had two and I say EWWWW to childbirth as well.


6 posted on 08/10/2009 10:05:12 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: rhema

We’re repulsed by the idea of government controlled healthcare.

We’re sickened by the lack of curiousity by the state-run media.

We hate the concept of a government monopoly of force (and we oppose gun control).

So, why do we think government run schools for our precious children is a good idea?

Thoughts to ponder...


7 posted on 08/10/2009 10:05:51 AM PDT by BertWheeler (Dance and the world dances with you...)
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To: netmilsmom

Yep, Just ANOTHER reason I homeschool.


8 posted on 08/10/2009 10:06:36 AM PDT by Sunbunny
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To: rhema
Homosexuality is being aggressively pushed on young people in our public schools. Those who oppose the homosexual indoctrination are told to stay away from young people and are compared to the KKK. The real situation out there is a lot worse than even this article describes.

http://www.mcpscurriculum.com./

http://www.marylandmen.org/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=28&func=view&catid=5&id=26

9 posted on 08/10/2009 10:08:53 AM PDT by detective
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To: metmom

ping


10 posted on 08/10/2009 10:10:07 AM PDT by JenB
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To: rhema

Who let these sickos into our schools?

And no, “homeschooling” is not the answer. While that works fine for our kids, it does nothing for their classmates who will all get exposed to this toxic filth, and grow up to be child molesterers and rapists and perverts and Liberals.

There is no moral or philosophical difference between these teachers titillating themselves by teaching this filth — which is actually hi-brow child pornography when you think it thru — and the playground flasher teaching kids about the pet mouse in his pocket. They both seek to pollute young minds.

Accordingly, it would be fair to make a complaint to the Police against any Principal that continues to support this filth in his/her school. The complaint would be “peddling in kiddie porn” and “contributing to the delinquency of minors”.

It would also be fair to sue the school out of existence, with the school board as a co-defendent. It would only need one or two schools to be sued for the insurers to step in and put a stop to this “sex education” once and for all.


11 posted on 08/10/2009 10:17:17 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: detective

They seek to undermind parental authority and teachings on morality.

When the schools teach children that hedonism is good, they are advocating a “religious” philosophy in sexular/secular humanism. Atheism/Antistheism in schools is just as unconstitutional as teaching the other religions of the world.

The Sex Positive advocates played their hand when they branded Christianity “Sex Negative”, they have established themselves as being decidedly antiChristian.


12 posted on 08/10/2009 10:17:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

As sex moved “beyond” being just between a man and a woman, a husband and wife, so education has to move beyond traditional intercourse and mechanics to teach the whole pornicopia of sexual delights to those trying to pair up identical parts of equipment.


13 posted on 08/10/2009 10:19:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: rhema

Schools can do this, but they can’t let their choirs sing sacred pieces because it might offend somebody.

Is my face flushed out of anger, or because the world turned upside down and all the blood is rushing to my head?


14 posted on 08/10/2009 10:19:35 AM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Am I the only freeper who lives in a good school system?

I monitor closely what goes on in our school. I am more than pleased with what I have seen so far.

I watched as my children learned math in a way I thought was very good, and I WAS happy with it. The pace is a little slower than my kids could handle, but ti fill their free time with other activites like music and gardeingn and hiking and travel


15 posted on 08/10/2009 10:21:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“ ... homeschooling” is not the answer. While that works fine for our kids, it does nothing for their classmates ...”

We’ve been very pleased with the the academic and moral instruction in the Catholic schools our daughter has attended, even though we are not Catholic.


16 posted on 08/10/2009 10:33:10 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

Barack Obama’s mother Stanley also wasn’t a Catholic (or even a Christian) but she still sent him to a Catholic school in Indonesia for what she also perceived to be a superior schooling.


17 posted on 08/10/2009 10:47:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Their goal is POPULATION CONTROL and a complete attack on the family.

Demographically in the U.S. there are more single, widowed, and divorced than those in intact families.

Planned Parenthood’s Mission Statement says that all people no matter age should be able to be sexually active as long as they don’t get pregant.

Young people who have STD’s can and do become infertile. They also do not feel comfortable telling future mates of their diseases.

Homosexual behavior does not lead to natural reproduction.

“A nation that kills its children is a nation without hope.”
John Paul II


18 posted on 08/10/2009 10:52:35 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: rhema; SoftballMominVA; Amelia; metmom; wintertime

Look, I realize that lots of folks on Free Republic hate the public schools -— but this is such biased crap as to be beyond belief. This kind of BS is why FReepers are often called whackos, because too many fall for this crap.

My daughter starts 6th grade next month in a public school in Virginia, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in the “family life” classes she has had has come anywhere near what this author is implying.


19 posted on 08/10/2009 10:58:06 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Mr. K

I would suggest you search FR for the keyword “ARTH” - the “Another Reason to Homeschool” articles get that keyword attached. Most of the stories seem to come out of pretty good school districts. Even if it doesn’t change your mind, it will give you more concrete things to watch for.

I grew up in a “good” school district where there were pipe bombs found at the high school, horrible Ecstasy problems, and all sorts of weird stuff that I heard about from my publicly schooled friends.


20 posted on 08/10/2009 11:01:53 AM PDT by JenB
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To: bigbob; netmilsmom

When my now 11yo was about 8 she grabbed hold of one of our tom cats and tossed him away from our oldest female and stated “Leave her alone, she’s not having any more kittens.”

She doesn’t need sex ed in school, she’s learned it all from the barn cats..............LOL


21 posted on 08/10/2009 11:02:43 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz

>>She doesn’t need sex ed in school, she’s learned it all from the barn cats..............LOL<<

That’s the way they SHOULD be learning it!


22 posted on 08/10/2009 11:05:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Gabz

You know I don’t hate public schools, but it really depends on where you are.

Here in Detroit, this stuff does go on.

We walk with public school friends in the summer. That mom told me about this stuff. She was shocked and now knows of a couple moms who want to homeschool so “Can you talk to them?”

It really depends on each district. Here, North of Detroit, this stuff is true.


23 posted on 08/10/2009 11:08:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Mr. K
Am I the only freeper who lives in a good school system?

NO, you are not, but like me, you will be called not only a liar but an enabler of this nonsense.

Some of this crap may go on in some school districts, but the haters of public schools on this forum believe there is no such thing as a good public school system and those of us with children in them or who teach in them are nothing less than child abusers.

24 posted on 08/10/2009 11:09:09 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Gabz, i assure you this DOES go on in public schools in VA, albeit not in your part of the state. i understand that you try to counteract the kneejerk public school bashing on FR, but this stuff is neither imagined nor exaggerated. you cannot hold up the eastern shore as proof that it isn’t happening. as you know there have been lawsuits in Montgomery Co. MD and in NoVA as well.


25 posted on 08/10/2009 11:12:58 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Gabz

Well, she’s lucky she doesn’t go to school in Montgomery County, MD.

Check out “detective’s” post above.


26 posted on 08/10/2009 11:20:01 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: Gabz

Ive always opted out my kids from FLE - they never took it from K-10.

But I’ve looked at the curriculum and in the official VA FLE, there is nothing like this in it. However, if a county wants to add to FLE, I think they are free to do it.

I would imagine that FLE in inner city Richmond is more explicit than that taught in the exurbs or rural areas


27 posted on 08/10/2009 11:20:49 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: victim soul

Their goals come straight from the ruler of this world, their ideological “father”. Ref John 8:44


28 posted on 08/10/2009 11:22:45 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Gabz

Not true at all, but I am willing to bet that it exists just as this person states in the vast majority of schools around the country. If you are from soutern areas of Va. then it is still conservative down there, but NoVa is very different. I grew up in Annandale, and now I hardly recgonize the place when I go back to visit, so I don’t anymore.


29 posted on 08/10/2009 11:23:14 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Gabz
and btw, how can you possibly refer to this as "biased crap?" Rebecca Hagelin lives here in the DC area, and is a well respected conservative columnist. And Dr. Grossman is extremely impressive. They are not pulling this stuff out of their behind, it is going on.
30 posted on 08/10/2009 11:24:53 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Gabz
Look, I realize that lots of folks on Free Republic hate the public schools -— but this is such biased crap as to be beyond belief. This kind of BS is why FReepers are often called whackos, because too many fall for this crap. My daughter starts 6th grade next month in a public school in Virginia, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in the “family life” classes she has had has come anywhere near what this author is implying.

The writer isn't stating that every school district is using the Planned Parenthood-recommended materials, which are nothing short of salacious. (The author gives examples in her book's introduction.) She advocates reading the book, checking your district's sex ed curriculum, and deciding if there's anything to be alarmed about.

I taught in public schools, big city and suburban, for 30 years. In one of the suburban schools, I witnessed a protracted community uproar over the sex ed curriculum, which was modified considerably after the uproar.

31 posted on 08/10/2009 11:24:53 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: JenB
I grew up in a “good” school district where there were pipe bombs found at the high school, horrible Ecstasy problems, and all sorts of weird stuff that I heard about from my publicly schooled friends.

Gee, those are the reasons many of my friends have been given by their children to NOT attend the local private school.

Jen, you have obviously done well and I applaud you and your parents for that, however, you have no experience with public school systems, and therefore no credibility with finding fault with them.

My husband and his sisters and nieces all went through a public school system so pathetic it ranks with NYC, DC, and Chicago, yet every one of them is a productive member of society. We left Delaware primarily because our child is so bright and we are unable to keep up with her. Virginia public schools are far superior to what we had available to us.

I applaud the fact you, unlike others, are rare to criticize those of us who choose public schooling. I truly hope you keep up with that position.

32 posted on 08/10/2009 11:29:19 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: riverdawg

Similarly to you, we send our children to a Seventh Day Adventist school, and even tho’ we aren’t SDAs have been delighted with the academic and moral instruction there.

Our eldest has moved on to a public school, and I am now deeply concerned as to what they might be teaching for “sex education”. I have made a memo to myself to raise the question during the upcoming Parent/Teacher Interviews.


33 posted on 08/10/2009 11:30:12 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Gabz; JenB
If i remember right, JenB does have experience with the public schools as she has a brother in a low - incidence program (can't remember which one)

So, even though she was homeschooled, i would imagine she's had some exposure through the education her brother receives at the local public school.

34 posted on 08/10/2009 11:33:47 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: netmilsmom
It really depends on each district.

I am in total agreement with you on that. Had we not been able to move I know for a fact Jax would not be in public school.

35 posted on 08/10/2009 11:34:52 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: a fool in paradise; rhema; 185JHP; 230FMJ; 50mm; 69ConvertibleFirebird; Albion Wilde; Aleighanne; ..
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36 posted on 08/10/2009 11:38:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: 2Jedismom; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; Antoninus; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

37 posted on 08/10/2009 11:39:15 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: netmilsmom

About the best sex-ed for 5 year olds is that boys/girls have cooties.

Yes, kids to need to find out, but the level to which they’re being indoctrinated these days virtually always seems to be age inappropriate.


38 posted on 08/10/2009 11:41:37 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: xsmommy

Yes, XS, I do realize it does go on, I’m not that naive.

My point is that it does not happen everywhere, which is the point of this article.

I am the first one to support suits against this kind of crap, and you know my position on lawsuits in general.


39 posted on 08/10/2009 11:42:53 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: rhema

When I was 12, my dad gave me the “facts of life” talk. After he’d finished, I looked at him and said, “Sounds like science fiction, Dad.” True story.


40 posted on 08/10/2009 11:43:39 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Gabz

well your initial post sounded to be dismissing the piece as biased crap, which it is most certainly NOT.


41 posted on 08/10/2009 11:47:55 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: SoftballMominVA

I didn’t opt Jax out of FLE, although I knew I could.

The teacher for it here is the head nurse, a member of our church, and a friend of mine :)

She and I have had numerous conversations and she has helped me out with some of the “things” I’ve had to talk to Jax about.


42 posted on 08/10/2009 11:48:04 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz

It depends on the parents and the district.

It doesn’t happen in our district either but it’s not for lack of trying.

Some new progressive teacher did try it once.

Once......

And that was the end of that.

So, technically, I have to say that this kind of sex ed isn’t happening in our district, but again, it isn’t for lack of trying. It would be if the parents hadn’t spoken up and the administration didn’t listen to them.


43 posted on 08/10/2009 11:48:49 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: bigbob
Well, I hope someone takes the time to educate this young person about the realities of adoption, among a myriad of other realities.

Seriously, an aversion to procreation as a result of too early exposure to the physical aspects of childbirth is a definite risk.

IIRC, this was mentioned in Hans Brinker and the Silver Skates (but my reading of that was a long time ago, as well as one HRRKeating mystery set in India.

I rather doubt childbirth is much of a topic in "sex education." The dangers of exposure to that are much worse and likely can't be easily remedied.
44 posted on 08/10/2009 11:52:43 AM PDT by cycjec
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To: Gabz; xsmommy
My point is that it does not happen everywhere, which is the point of this article.

The article doesn't imply that it's everywhere, just that it's out there and parents need to check it out for themselves.

45 posted on 08/10/2009 11:53:36 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I live in NoVA and that’s why my kids have never spent a day in public schools, but rather have attended catholic school from preschool on. Not every school district is going to be politicized, but the author of this piece lives in this area and is writing in the Washington Times, so it makes perfect sense, given the ridiculous stuff that has been tried here. Far too many parents remain oblivious to what is going on in their kids schools and that’s why she is writing, to raise consciousness of the problems.


46 posted on 08/10/2009 11:58:05 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Robert DeLong

I’m not sure what you are claiming is not true at all, but I have no doubt it exists in the district where the writer lives.

I live on the Eastern Shore, not southern VA, but we are far different here from NoVA, although there is much influence from there.


47 posted on 08/10/2009 11:59:04 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: xsmommy

Because of the way far too many FReepers react to these type articles.


48 posted on 08/10/2009 12:02:30 PM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz

i understand that, but it will not serve your cause to improperly characterize this piece, simply because it doesn’t happen in your school dist.


49 posted on 08/10/2009 12:05:28 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy; metmom

Yes, it is biased crap in the sense that the haters of public schools at FR will claim this is the norm at ALL public schools.

THAT is what I was referring to.

I pretty much agree with the writer, I just knew how this was going to be taken by the “hate everything public school” contingent on FR. I do not include either of you in that category.


50 posted on 08/10/2009 12:11:23 PM PDT by Gabz
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