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Shovel-Ready Health Care
IBD Editorial ^ | August 10, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 08/10/2009 6:00:25 PM PDT by Kaslin

Health Care: There might not be a "death panel," as Sarah Palin described it, but federal bureaucrats will be making end-of-life decisions. That's why state-run medicine is a leading cause of death in Britain and Canada.


A post on the former Alaska governor's Facebook page has caused a stir by discussing openly what many privately fear and something we have written about. End-of-life counseling and efforts to measure cost-effectiveness of treatment will combine in a perfect storm to ration care in a way that lets the government decide who lives and who dies.

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society' whether they are worthy of health care," Palin wrote.

"Such a system is downright evil."

Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean's response was, "She made that up." Oregon resident Barbara Wagner might beg to differ — as she begs to stay alive. Last year, the 64-year-old received news that her cancer, which had been in remission, had returned. Her only hope was a life-extending drug that her doctor prescribed for her.

The problem was that the drug cost $4,000 a month. The state-run Oregon Health Plan said no, that it was not cost-effective. Oregon's equivalent of a "death panel" sent her a letter saying it would cover drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost only $50 or so. Oregon could afford that.

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1 posted on 08/10/2009 6:00:25 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: bareford101; BerniesFriend; blaveda; Bookwoman; Celeste732; dsc; FrdmLvr; FreedomPoster; ...

2 posted on 08/10/2009 6:02:11 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
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3 posted on 08/10/2009 6:04:00 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (ELECTION 2010 IS THE MOST IMPORTANT OF OUR LIFETIME! If you have to ask why, UR part of the problem!)
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To: Kaslin

Wow! There’s a thread title that deserves a BUMP!


4 posted on 08/10/2009 6:05:19 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kaslin
There might not be a "death panel," as Sarah Palin described it, but federal bureaucrats will be making end-of-life decisions.

So, Sarah Palin was wrong in IBD's assessment, but they agree with her?

What sort of deranged logic is this? Was she insufficiently nuanced or something?

5 posted on 08/10/2009 6:08:09 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin
The lies and deception of the Obama administration and the DNC leadership are becoming more and more apparent...and as they do, they also become more and more shrill.

These people are drunk with power and control.

Their pronouncements and actions are like every other repressive, tin-horn regime in history. Label the opposition with exactly what they themselves are doing and then use the government controlled and co-opted press to spread that lies, and then use their thugs to try and enforce it and stamp out dissent.

Well, not any more in this country. The health care debate has blown the lid on it and it's time to carry it through on this issue and every other similiar issue (like Cap & Trade, FOCA, etc.) that these wanna-be tyrants propose.

President Barack Hussein Obama said on AUgust 7, 2009, that he expected the people who caused the financial and health care mess to be quiet, stand out of the way, and let it be fixed. Well, Mr. President, if you do not want the people who created this mess standing in the way of fixing it. Okay, then you, Mr. Obama...and Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, et all had best step out of the way yourselves because you not only helped engineer the problems that ensured the fiasco...you are now intent on making it immeasurably worse in your drive towards abject marxism.

In order to hide this, and in an effort to push their monstrosity Health Care, the liberal-left and Obama seem intent on turning the frustration and angst of the American people over his policies into something more akin to Iran over this issue, with their own Basij thugs sent out to silence us, and Obama supporters called on by the Whitehouse to report any dissent.

MY LETTER TO THE WHITEHOUSE AND OBAMA ABOUT FREE SPEECH

Despite all this, the American people are downloading the Dem Health Care Plan HERE and elsewhere and educating themselves.

They are also reading the cited quotes of the main architect of the plan and Chief Advisor to Obama on Health Care HERE and elsewhere, and seeing the context of the plan from the designer of it.

So, when Sarah Palin callis it evil, they know for themselves that she speaks the truth.

So they continue to take their feelings...and their own documentation...to their reps and gett in their faces about it.


EZEKIEL EMANUEL AND THE OBAMA CARE FINAL SOLUTION

(Must Read - Sick, eugenics quotes of Emanuel)


OBAMA CARE BY THE NUMBERS


THE STORM UNLEASHED ON AMERICA

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

6 posted on 08/10/2009 6:08:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
Great post as always

BTTP

7 posted on 08/10/2009 6:11:07 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Salvation

Ping.....


8 posted on 08/10/2009 6:12:38 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: RegulatorCountry
I'm amazed at how people are trying to tap dance around saying she was right.

“There might not be a “death panel,” as Sarah Palin described it, but federal bureaucrats will be making end-of-life decisions.”

I guess they would prefer we call the “federal bureaucrats making end-of-life decisions” the lollipops and sunshine panel then.

9 posted on 08/10/2009 6:16:12 PM PDT by redk
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To: redk
It's a high-tech neo-medieval Star Chamber, straight out of that first-season Twilight Zone episode with Burgess Meredith ... Obbb-Sssooo-Llleeettt!
10 posted on 08/10/2009 6:22:50 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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11 posted on 08/10/2009 6:26:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: Kaslin
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12 posted on 08/10/2009 6:27:34 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Kaslin

I'm sorry, your benefits have expired.
13 posted on 08/10/2009 6:45:30 PM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: Kaslin
Thanks Kaslin... on FR now, OBAMA'S BRIDGE TOO FAR
14 posted on 08/10/2009 6:49:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kaslin
obamacare2
15 posted on 08/10/2009 7:42:12 PM PDT by Flag_This (They wouldn't be libs if they weren't hypocrits and liars)
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To: Kaslin
The MSM will parse the truth like Bubba parsed the word “is.” Palin will be lambasted by those claiming the bill's language doesn't create a “Death Panel” knowing full well what it was that she was saying and that she was 100% correct. How many special needs children will never know life under Obamacare?
16 posted on 08/10/2009 7:42:43 PM PDT by JrsyJack (There's a little Jim Thompson in all of us)
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17 posted on 08/10/2009 7:46:58 PM PDT by Iron Munro (You can't kill the beast while sucking at its teat - Claire Wolfe)
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To: Kaslin

“That’s why state-run medicine is a leading cause of death in Britain and Canada.”

The article doesn’t really clarify how one can come to this conclusion. The only thing I can imagine is that it’s assuming that all deaths in a country can be attributed to its medical care system.


18 posted on 08/10/2009 7:47:44 PM PDT by A Bronze Statue of George H. W
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To: redk

Eugenics lies at the heart of the progressive movement. ....as has been for about a century.

Read Edwin Black’s “The War Against The Weak” .


19 posted on 08/10/2009 7:52:06 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: All

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20 posted on 08/10/2009 9:31:48 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Kaslin
ObamaCare: Race FROM the Cure
21 posted on 08/10/2009 10:40:29 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: A Bronze Statue of George H. W
To the contrary, it gives both a succinct description and several examples of how state run medicine is a leading cause of unnecessary death.

If what you say regarding yourself is true, your imagination, unfortunately, is not equal to conceptualizing the realities of this situation.

22 posted on 08/10/2009 10:57:36 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: Kaslin; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; coffeebreak; ...
Oregon Ping

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.

23 posted on 08/10/2009 11:03:56 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Jeff Head

bttt


24 posted on 08/10/2009 11:10:58 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like a Death Panel to me. Sarah speaks plainly to the heart of the manner without Washington Speak.

This shows that she is well grounded and not that she is miss-informed. She knows exactly what she is speaking about and isn’t confused in the least.

Sarah can still take this country by storm is she can just connect with the American People in a personal way that the MSM can’t disrupt.


25 posted on 08/10/2009 11:14:07 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Kaslin

“but federal bureaucrats will be making end-of-life decisions. That’s why state-run medicine is a leading cause of death in Britain and Canada.”

imo, that IS a “death panel.”


26 posted on 08/10/2009 11:29:07 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Kaslin

If you read page 428 of HR 3200, it has end of life counselors bustling in to “inform” people or their proxies in case of a life-threatening accident or disease - - not just old folks.

Just picture these Deatheaters swooping in when a family has just learned their loved one has been in a major accident. Maybe they’ll even be out in the field hospitals in Afghanistan.


27 posted on 08/11/2009 4:07:31 AM PDT by finnsheep
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To: A Bronze Statue of George H. W

Read it again. The mortality rates for breast and prostate cancer that are discussed make it pretty clear.


28 posted on 08/11/2009 4:16:05 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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