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Why is it that we Conservatives allow the word "Redneck"?
vanity | 8/11/09 | me

Posted on 08/11/2009 5:27:20 AM PDT by netmilsmom

I have a question. Why do conservatives allow ourselves to be called "Rednecks". I'm on YouTube and Digg. When a poster calls us uneducated Rednecks, no one says a word.

Why don't we own this word? Why aren't we framing the conversation? I find it insulting to be called a dumb Redneck. Much more than to be called a dumb Pollack, because at least I'm Polish.

If macaca is insulting, why is Redneck okay?


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1 posted on 08/11/2009 5:27:20 AM PDT by netmilsmom
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To: netmilsmom

“Why do conservatives allow ourselves to be called “Rednecks”.”

Well duh! It’s because we are conservatives.


2 posted on 08/11/2009 5:29:40 AM PDT by caver (Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
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To: netmilsmom

Because it’s what I am and I make no bones about it.


3 posted on 08/11/2009 5:31:46 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: netmilsmom

The term redneck is more a reflection on the sender than the receiver.


4 posted on 08/11/2009 5:32:00 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: netmilsmom

When we impose our own ‘Political Correctness’ - banning words/phrases because we might be offended —

We become that which we hate....

Sorry — I’ll wear the ‘Redneck’ sobriquet with pride.....


5 posted on 08/11/2009 5:32:12 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: netmilsmom

I am not easily offended. It is better to spend my effort on other things.


6 posted on 08/11/2009 5:35:33 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: netmilsmom

I don’t consider being called a redneck an insult. I grew up in NYC and took it as a great honor when my southern friends claimed I was just as a much a redneck as they were. And that was 30+ years ago.


7 posted on 08/11/2009 5:35:57 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Uncle Ike
Welllll ... I can say and spell 'redneck' ... but that other thing ... sobriquet?

I drink too much to be sobr-anything.

(or is it sum'im for a cookout?)

8 posted on 08/11/2009 5:36:11 AM PDT by knarf
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To: netmilsmom

Aren’t the original “Rednecks” union thugs from coal strikes in WV (Battle of Blair Mountain)?

Seems somewhat ironic that we are being called ignorant rednecks by union thugs.


9 posted on 08/11/2009 5:36:55 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: numberonepal

I’ll take a southern redneck any day over a dumb Obama koolaid-drinking liberal plantation Negro and I’m Black. They’re much nicer, lol!


10 posted on 08/11/2009 5:37:19 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Uncle Ike

I claim with pride to be a bit of a Redneck...and so are my sons....all with pride....

I remember a woman I knew whose daughter went to HS with my son. Her daughter was a bit of a snob back then and referred to my son as a redneck......all I know is, who was the first kid they sought when they could not get their cars started in the parking lot or who stopped to help them pull their cars out of ditch on that snowy first day.....my redneck son....now he is a first Lt. in the USMC....and we are proud of our redneck


11 posted on 08/11/2009 5:38:29 AM PDT by Kimmers (Be the kind of person when your feet hit the floor each morning the devil says, Oh crap, she's awake)
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To: netmilsmom

Because we have a sense of humor and can laugh at ourselves when we need to. Liberals lack that ability. A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence. With that consideration who is really smart, and who is really dumb?

If you see a liberal on TV, and think he sounds unintelligent, you might just be a redneck.

If you see a liberal on TV, and he’s being dead serious, and you think you’re watching a stand up comic, you might just be a redneck.


12 posted on 08/11/2009 5:40:39 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Uncle Ike

Having a redneck from pruning my luxurious estate entitles me to wear the name with pride.//sarc//

If we took offense to a word, wouldn’t we be stereotyping too?

Besides, why give your opposition the ability to offend you? Take away the concern about a word that has no impact on your existence and their attacks are even less bothersome.


13 posted on 08/11/2009 5:40:49 AM PDT by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over.)
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To: netmilsmom
Why don't we own this word?

It's like the word "cowboy". To Europeans, the word "cowboy" is a pejorative term, but to non-liberals in America it is a term defining a certain set of attributes (i.e. rugged, tough, straight-forward, etc).

So to a liberal or European, they think they are insulting you when calling you a "cowboy".

Likewise the term "redneck".

They think it is a negative term, when those who embrace the term realize that it isn't a negative, it's a positive and those that use it as a sneer show themselves to be the snobbish, effeminate, oversensitive elitists that they really are.

14 posted on 08/11/2009 5:40:59 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: netmilsmom

Is it not a southern term?

I know there is a country and western song called “Redneck Yacht Club”.


15 posted on 08/11/2009 5:42:02 AM PDT by Biggirl ("God Is Great, Beer Is Good, People Are Crazy"-Billy Cunnington :)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Kimmers

To me, “Red Neck” means you spend your day in the sun, not worried about sunscreen. Too busy working on your business, not too prideful to notice the sunburn.

It means you wear a collar. This is like the term “Farmer’s tans”, where your arms have a definate sleeve line. I would rather be a Redneck than a wimpy model-type or metrosexual, anyday.


16 posted on 08/11/2009 5:42:37 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Betis70

The term originated in Scotland I believe, referring to farmers and others who worked manual labor outside. It was in literal reference to the red necks they would get from sunburns.


17 posted on 08/11/2009 5:43:29 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: netmilsmom

It’s a term of endearment......................


18 posted on 08/11/2009 5:44:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (I am totally against spooning............it eventually leads to forking................)
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To: netmilsmom

Much more than to be called a dumb Pollack....

19 posted on 08/11/2009 5:45:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (I am totally against spooning............it eventually leads to forking................)
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To: netmilsmom

Rather be a redneck than pink through and through.


20 posted on 08/11/2009 5:46:01 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: netmilsmom
Why do you allow labels to stick to you? It is the offended who gives words the power to offend.

When someone uses Nazi in an argument, it means, They Lost!

21 posted on 08/11/2009 5:46:39 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: netmilsmom

Because we aren’t aholes.


22 posted on 08/11/2009 5:47:00 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (CommieCare: Need a Stent, Take a Pain Pill. Next!)
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To: netmilsmom
Well... pollacks are far from dumb fools and rednecks are down to earth and hard working. If you consider straitforward and to the point an equivalent to stupid, then I resemble that remark.

I think we should respond every time somebody uses the term REDNECK with the term NIPWOCK (a composite of NIgger, Polack, WOg, WOp, Kike, redneCK and any others).

NIPWOCK - a sarcastic comment on racial epithets that implies the user is a complete waste of human protoplasm that might otherwise have been used as common slime mold instead of masquerading as intelligence.

[usage] you asinine NIPWOCK!

23 posted on 08/11/2009 5:47:50 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: netmilsmom

Those of us who call ourselves rednecks don’t object when others call us that - even if the others think they’re being insulting. It just shows (as if we didn’t know) that they’re Not Like Us.

Of course, if one’s from a different, non-rednecky, culture, the term would give a different impression.


24 posted on 08/11/2009 5:48:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Good intentions mean nothing. Incentives and constraints mean everything.)
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To: netmilsmom
I take the term "Redneck" to mean I'm not some smarmy self-important pointy-headed liberal intellectual, who wants to control every aspect of your life.

Wear the term with pride.

25 posted on 08/11/2009 5:49:30 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

http://wiki.answers.com

/Q/Where_did_the_name_’redneck’_come_from


26 posted on 08/11/2009 5:50:33 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: netmilsmom

Because it implies being out in the hot sun working your butt off all day.

Sounds pretty positive to me


27 posted on 08/11/2009 5:52:36 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: netmilsmom

Liberals try to shut down debate by calling names. All children do this. If we are adults, we ignore it and stick to facts. If one is insulted, one doesn’t push them to justify their stand with facts. Ignore the names as it’s a diversion. Make them defend their position.


28 posted on 08/11/2009 5:54:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Just mythoughts

Interesting.


29 posted on 08/11/2009 5:54:27 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: tentmaker

>>NIPWOCK<<

That is exactly what I’m looking for!

While I understand that some consider Redneck to be okay, the people using this term are insulting the group.

I needed a comeback. Thanks!


30 posted on 08/11/2009 5:55:40 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: netmilsmom

If nothing else, it’s because we otherwise wouldn’t be able to tell great redneck jokes, like:

One way to know a guy’s a redneck is if his house’s porch collapses and kills at least three dogs.


31 posted on 08/11/2009 5:56:37 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: netmilsmom

Definition of a redneck (as per Charlie Daniels):

What most people call a redneck
Ain’t nothin’ but a workin’ man
And he makes his livin’
By the sweat of his brow
And the calluses on his hands
Now you intellectuals may not like it
But there ain’t nothin’ that you can do
Cause there’s a whole lot more of us common-folks
Then there ever will be of you
What this world needs is a few more rednecks
Some people ain’t afraid to take a stand
What this world needs is a little more respect
For the Lord and the law and the workin’ man
We could use a little peace and satisfaction
Some good people up front to take the lead
A little less talk and a little more action
And a few more rednecks is what we need

I’m a redneck and proud of it. American by birth, Southern by the grace of God, from a long line of Carolina tobacco farmers, with an ancestry in Carolina that dates back to the 1720’s.

We rednecks need to get ourselves together and get our country back.


32 posted on 08/11/2009 5:57:20 AM PDT by fredhead (Liberals think globally, reason rectally, act idiotically.)
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To: netmilsmom
The funny thing is historically the term "Redneck" was associated to union affiliation in clashes with mine owners in the early 1920' and onward.

Now it's associated 1) the obvious trailer trash references 2) with folks who lived in those regions who hated any Federal authority and were willing to resist it on a routine basis.

It's now a name symbolic of pride among many people and is perceived as highly American not to take crap from any authority that presumes to impress it's dictates upon people.

33 posted on 08/11/2009 5:57:23 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: netmilsmom
it was coin by the New York Times as earlier stated the identify Union Members in Blair Mountain, West Virginia.
34 posted on 08/11/2009 5:58:06 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yes, I’ve heard various explanations, including yours, plus one about indentured servants in the US. I suspect it has more to do with pasty people working outside getting sunburned.

Mine just fit the politics better. :)


35 posted on 08/11/2009 5:58:24 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: Caipirabob

“Caipirabob” is loosely translated as “Redneck Bob”. We rednecks get around, is all... ; )


36 posted on 08/11/2009 5:59:06 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: netmilsmom
If Redneck is all they can come up with they don't have much to say. I will take Redneck over democrat, liberal, or any of the left’s any day.

How about REDNECK PATIROT? We work for what we get and do not get handouts form the family.

37 posted on 08/11/2009 6:00:21 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: netmilsmom

Don’t know about you, but my neck *is* red - from doing honest labor outdoors.

I say let’s OWN the term “Redneck” instead of going around being resentful.
Then what would the effeminate Eastern elitists do? What could they call us?
LOL!


38 posted on 08/11/2009 6:02:59 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: netmilsmom

Redneck is an insult but most ignore it who were raised with:

“Sticks and stones can break my bones but names will never hurt me.”

This Republic would be much better off if *everybody* felt that way.


39 posted on 08/11/2009 6:05:00 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: Betis70

The first group described as rednecks were union members from all over the state of W Va who were opposing the coal mine owners refusal to allow their mines to be unionized. They wore red bandannas around their necks.
The battle of Blair mountain in Logan Co., WV resulted in the death of nearly 100 union members at the hands of local police authority as they, 13,000 strong, sought to enter the county and demonstrate in support of unionization. In 1921 they were not what is commonly referred to today as thugs.
read here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

The uprising that led to the battle at Blair mountain was a popular movement much like the tea party and anti gov’t health movement today. “Redneck” is an absolutely appropriate and honorable, historically accurate, description of today’s anti government movement. This is the largest uprising since the civil rights movement of the 60’s.


40 posted on 08/11/2009 6:07:01 AM PDT by Amos the Prophet (Take heart, my beloved. It will grow darker still but the dawn will be made all the more glorious.)
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To: libstripper

My two favorite “You might be a redneck” jokes are:

“If you have a complete set of salad bowls and they all say “Cool Whip” along the side”

and

“If your Mother does not remove the Marlboro from her mouth before telling the State Trooper to kiss her butt”


41 posted on 08/11/2009 6:07:49 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: netmilsmom

Down her in Georgia they’re just called “reds”. Salt of the earth people. . can fix a pickup, air conditioner, shoot a deer. . go to church all before noon on Sunday!


42 posted on 08/11/2009 6:08:55 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: netmilsmom
"I needed a comeback."

Whenever someone starts name calling I just state "thanks for the compliment" and continue on with the discussion. You would not believe the facial expressions you get with this "comeback".

43 posted on 08/11/2009 6:09:54 AM PDT by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: numberonepal

Exactly. I hunt, fish, have 5 dogs, a pickup truck, and am a gunsmith who owns a gunshop. We pickle and can from our garden. I’d rather go to the gun range than a play.

I chuckle at the arrogance shown by those who look down their noses and spit the word “redneck” like an epithet.

It’s a compliment acknowledging my Scotch-Irish heritage and my ability to take care of me and mine.


44 posted on 08/11/2009 6:13:59 AM PDT by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: netmilsmom

Why is it that we have allowed ourselves to be slandered for decades by people with “nefarious” designs?


45 posted on 08/11/2009 6:15:02 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: Kimmers

And you should be! Kudos to you and yours.


46 posted on 08/11/2009 6:15:29 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: scooby321

“it was coin by the New York Times”

Coined by the New York Times, don’t you love it! The Times’ “contributions” to American society are endless.


47 posted on 08/11/2009 6:17:02 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: netmilsmom
Oh my! .......


48 posted on 08/11/2009 6:17:50 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: netmilsmom

“Redneck” is an honorable status. Your neck is “red” because you work out in the sun all day.


49 posted on 08/11/2009 6:20:01 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: whatisthetruth

Whoa!


50 posted on 08/11/2009 6:20:56 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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