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Runaway teen who fears family after Christian conversion ordered to DCF custody [Florida]
Orlando Sentinel ^ | Amy L. Edwards

Posted on 08/11/2009 2:27:30 PM PDT by MindBender26

A Muslim girl from Ohio, who turned 17 on Monday, is at the center of a custody dispute in Orlando, where she sought help from a family she barely knew -- a pastor and his wife willing to take in a teen who feared her own family's retribution because she converted to Christianity. She says she is afraid her father will kill her.

The Orlando Sentinel is not identifying the teen because of her age.

Her dispute with her family became news several weeks ago when the girl ran away from her home in Columbus, Ohio. She hitch-hiked to a Greyhound station and boarded a bus to Orlando. The State DCF is now holding her pending the her father's claims.

Once here, she borrowed a cell phone to call Beverly Lorenz, who with husband Blake Lorenz is a pastor of Global Revolution Church in Orlando. The Lorenzes met the girl through a prayer group on Facebook.

Although the girl was a stranger, Beverly Lorenz told her they would house her. The teen told the Lorenzes she feared her family would hurt her, kill her or send her back to Sri Lanka, Beverly Lorenz said.

Reached by a Sentinel reporter by phone, the girl's mother said little. "Yes, of course" her daughter would be safe should a judge eventually order her back there, she said.

And her father would not harm his daughter if she wanted to be a Christian, the woman said. She referred other questions to her husband. He did not answer his cell phone after the hearing.

(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: christians; convert; exgays; exmuslims; radicalislam; rifqabary
The child fears her father will kill her in an "honor killing."

Islam calls for the death to any Muslim who converts to Christianity.

Religion of Peace.... right!

1 posted on 08/11/2009 2:27:30 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26

Deport them.


2 posted on 08/11/2009 2:29:14 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Frantzie

Sharp Christian lawyer figures out appeals to stall one year until she turns 18. Smart judge would figure out what is going on, and play along. Then her parents would no longer have any standing in the matter.


3 posted on 08/11/2009 2:33:13 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: BigEdLB

You don’t need “standing” to kill


4 posted on 08/11/2009 2:35:14 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: BigEdLB

But they would still be bound by the Koran to hunt her down and kill for for apostasy.


5 posted on 08/11/2009 2:35:34 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obama's medical nationalization bill reads like Atlas Shrugged with doctors instead of railroads.)
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To: MindBender26

“And her father would not harm his daughter if she wanted to be a Christian, the woman said. She referred other questions to her husband. He did not answer his cell phone after the hearing.”

Probally realized she was due a beating for the little she had already stated...
You know those muslims such peaceful fun loving folks....


6 posted on 08/11/2009 2:39:31 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Proud to have made Communist Leader Obama's hit list at flag@whitehouse.gov)
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To: MindBender26

If they send her back her blood is on their hands.


7 posted on 08/11/2009 2:42:50 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: MindBender26

The father should be sent back where he came from forthwith, and once the mother is safely an ocean away from him, let her decide if she wants to stay or go. The girl is 17 and should be declared an emancipated minor and given permanent residency.

BUT, the pastor is not helping things by taking this nubile young girl to court with bare shoulders, and putting his arm around her, having their phot taken with the scantily clad girl snuggled up to him. A pastor who is meeting minor females on the internet and offering them an opportunity to run away from home, to his home, is a bit suspect in the first place. If he can wear a collared shirt, tie, and long-sleeved suit jacket to court, then it’s not too hot for her to wear a reasonably conservative outfit that at least covers her shoulders and armpits.

If this girl was a convert to evangelical Christianity from say Catholicism or Orthodox Judaism, and claimed to be fleeing parents who were threatening physical abuse or imrprisonment due the religion issue, we’d look at this photo and be quickly inclined to side with the parents and assume that the accusations against them were exaggerated. When dealing with conflict, one must be above reproach, and this photo definitely raises questions about the pastor’s motives.


8 posted on 08/11/2009 2:44:33 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Vote for a short Freepathon! Donate now if you possibly can!)
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To: MindBender26

Sometimes you really can’t go home again.


9 posted on 08/11/2009 2:55:59 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: MindBender26
It's also odd that, per other reports, she was missing for at least two weeks before the pastor contacted Florida authorities to notify them that he was harboring a minor who reported fleeing her parents due to threats of physical harm. Think about it -- if a teenager you'd met on the internet showed up on your doorstep, saying she'd fled from her parents halfway across the country because she was afraid her father would kill her for her new religious beliefs, wouldn't you be inclined to call your local police pretty quickly? And may be check the internet for other info about the teen? There had been a missing child report posted on the Ohio Attorney General's website since very shortly after she went missing.

And then there's this info in the Sentinel article about her internet posting: On a baby sitter Web site, the girl described herself this way: "One of my favorite things to do in my spare time is cheerleading for my high school and of course tumbling as well.

If her father has been letting her participate in the high school cheerleading squad, baring every inch of her legs in straddle splits before crowds of unrelated men, it doesn't really sound like he's a crazed Muslim fanatic. I think there may be a bit more to the story here than meets the eye.

10 posted on 08/11/2009 3:04:19 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Vote for a short Freepathon! Donate now if you possibly can!)
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To: MindBender26
And her father would not harm his daughter if she wanted to be a Christian, the woman said.

I believe her; he wouldn't hurt her.

He would have her uncle, brother, or cousin do the dirty deed...assuming she wasn't hustled off to Sri Lanka to be killed.

11 posted on 08/11/2009 3:25:41 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Evil is in the eye of the beholder. One usually finds what they hunt for.


12 posted on 08/11/2009 4:39:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: MindBender26
I saw the girl on 700 Club this morning. She is beautiful and appeared genuinely terrified. Apparently, she ran away when her mother found a Christian book in her room while her father was absent from the home. She seems convinced that he will kill her because her conversion will not only bring dishonor on the family but cause her mother to go to Hell if she is not killed for her "crime".
13 posted on 08/11/2009 4:50:48 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: srmorton

“Islam calls for the death to any Muslim who converts to Christianity”. Paging Barry Sotero, Bary Sotero, your uncle has arrived to give you a “ride”.


14 posted on 08/11/2009 4:59:22 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: DJ MacWoW

?? It may well be that neither the father nor the pastor are the altruistic guardians of the girl’s well-being that they’re presenting themselves as. Obviously *something* is wrong at home, or the girl wouldn’t have run off half way across the country to a stranger she met on the internet. But it doesn’t automatically follow from the fact that something is wrong at home, that the self-employed pastor she ran to is a paragon of virtue whose only motivation in roaming internet social networking sites is to bring troubled teenagers to Christ.

The initial reaction to this story is reminding me a bit of the initial reaction to the story of the killing of the Florida couple who adopted a boatload of special needs children. At first it was pure black and white: “How could these unspeakably evil people do something so horrible to these absolute saints!” Yes, the murderers are plenty evil, but there was something way off in the Billings home too. Not only did the couple have an inexplicable $100,000 cash in a home safe (”reserves for their financing business”, according to a lawyer for the family), but the father had attempted to copyright the names of all the adopted children, and sent bizarre letters to state officials in response to letters from them that referenced the children, demanding they pay him millions of dollars for their unauthorized use of the children’s names, and had run an “adult entertainment business” in the past, and had a past conviction for adoption fraud when he and a former wife of his bought a newborn baby and arranged for the forgery of its birth certificate to list him as the father.

I’m just pointing out that things that look black and white at first glance often aren’t. I was a bit startled when I went to the Sentinel link and saw the photo. Then I read on and saw more things that didn’t really make sense, and read a bit more from other sources.

Maybe the girl’s father has been sexually abusing her, and that’s why she ran away. Who knows? I just don’t see a lot of evidence that’s he’s a crazed Muslim out to kill his daughter to avenge his “honor” — if he was, the cheerleading would have triggered him a long time ago. And I see a lot of hints that Pastor Lorenz may be more of a self-promoting Jim Bakker type, than a humble religious man. I note that he couldn’t quite find room for any mention of “Jesus” or “Christ” on his church’s homepage, but did find room for a very large “Give Online” link. http://www.globalrevolutionchurch.org/ According to various news articles, the church actually meets in a movie theater in a shopping mall, but the church’s website, which gives no physical address for the church (despite posting an invitation to come worship with them on Sundays at 9:00AM) features a glitzy looking night-time photo of a fountain in downtown Orlando that could be mistaken for an expensive church building (with a sort of steeple-like shape at the top), posted above the church’s name and P.O. Box address. http://www.globalrevolutionchurch.org/index-6.html The photo is lifted from a senior travel website. http://seniortravel.about.com/od/seniortravelbargains/tp/TopBudgetDestUS.htm


15 posted on 08/11/2009 6:44:36 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Vote for a short Freepathon! Donate now if you possibly can!)
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To: BigEdLB

Why wait, she should file for emancipation pronto.


16 posted on 08/12/2009 11:50:24 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Why Does Obama Want Health Care in 4 Weeks When it Took Him 6 Months to Pick a Dog?)
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