Posted on 08/12/2009 5:41:25 AM PDT by DemonDeac
"CAMARILLO, Calif. - A motor home struck and killed a motorcyclist, dragging his body about 75 feet on U.S. Highway 101 in a bloody conclusion to a Ventura County road-rage encounter.
The motorcycle was impaled on the motor home.
Witnesses and motor home driver Michael Antoine told the California Highway Patrol the biker made obscene hand gestures and pulled in front of the motor home before braking suddenly Monday afternoon."
(Excerpt) Read more at fox5sandiego.com ...
Better to get road rage in a Hummer than on a bike.
This article is carefully written to imply the road rage was on the part of the motor home driver. It was not - according to the CHP, it was the bicyclist who went insane, and got himself killed by flipping off the driver, movig in front of the motor home and slamming on the brakes.
But the MSM wants to protect the liberal insanity and aggressiveness from being exposed.
Don’t bring a motorcycle to an RV fight.
Wow, yeah, not smart. Depending on other people to NOT squash you like a bug AFTER you've pissed them off is generally not advisable.
Always get a kick out of movies where motorcycles menace cars; all the car has to do is stop or turn and the biker is deep in the hurt box.
“...the biker made obscene hand gestures and pulled in front of the motor home before braking suddenly Monday afternoon.”
Darwin Award candidate (don’t bring a bike to a motorhome fight).
More about the “rage boy” results of liberal policies and upbringing, little to do with “liberal insanity and aggressiveness”. It’s just as likely the ‘biker’ could have been a white supremicist neo-nazi as anything. It wouldn’t matter in the long run, the results are the same.
“This article is carefully written to imply the road rage was on the part of the motor home driver. It was not - according to the CHP, it was the bicyclist who went insane, and got himself killed by flipping off the driver, movig in front of the motor home and slamming on the brakes.”
I have no earthly idea how you took that from the article.
That had to be a dramatic shift in perspective for the motorcylist. "I'll show that sumbitch" ...very rapidly evolves to.."Oh Sh*t."
...it was the bicyclist who went insane...
There was no bicyclist, it was a motorcycle.
But the MSM wants to protect the liberal insanity and aggressiveness from being exposed.
And that one makes even less sense.
No biker that I know that would flip off a RV would have a shred of liberal insanity.
Insanity, yes, but far, far from liberal in nature.
Re-read the story.
Best line of the morning:
“Dont bring a motorcycle to an RV fight.”
Kudos to Disambiguator!!!
Darwinism in action...the dead guy should win the “Hold Muh Beer” award.
LOL!!! Great line!
By reading it:
"Patrol the biker made obscene hand gestures and pulled in front of the motor home before braking suddenly Monday afternoon.
CHP Officer Terry Uhrich says the 68-year-old motor home driver was traveling about 55 mph in the southbound lanes in Camarillo and couldn't avoid slamming into the bike.
The 57-year-old Ventura biker, whose name is being withheld, was thrown under the motor home and dragged about 75 feet before coming loose in travel lanes."
What did you get from the article?
LOL!
I feel the same in my Silverado 2500HD. I recall one day where some thug in a compact car tried cutting in my aunt’s funeral procession. He quickly changed his mind. ;)
Sometimes, stupid has it’s price.
An RV is not that high, but an RV driver is high enough to see beyond the biker and would/should automatically see if there is a reason for a bike to brake.
That's the physical part of my thinking ... the psych part says ... ain't no way a biker, no matter HOW pi$$ed off he may be, would pull an adolescent trick like that.
I think the RV driver is the one that raged against the biker.
I second the nomination. An old guy in a SUV ain’t going to stop on a dime. Unless the guy’s name was Dime, heh heh.
Whoops.
I plead familiarity with California bicyclist jerks.
I don't suppose a 57 year old motorcyclist was presumably operating under the same deranged liberal compulsions as a California bicyclist, either?
No, I guess not.
In the immortal words of Rosanne Rosannadanna: "Never Mind."
(I'm going to get another cup of coffee...)
Something doesn’t “+” up.
I wonder if the witnesses were passengers in the motorhome, i.e. the driver’s relatives. They’d have plenty of time to make up a plausible story.
I have so many bad experiences with those old coots in their rolling barges that I suspect any story dealing with them. If I were king I would ban the dammed things. At the very least the driver’s should be required to have commerical licenses. If we demanded true competence form the drivers we’d lose about 3/4ths of those road hazards.
Maybe a stretch, but that is what we have come to in this age! We cannot trust the media to even report a traffic accident without bias.
Guys who drove a Volkswagen all his life so he could retire and become a bus driver.
Sounds like suicide to me.
I was wrong.
(You have to be a listener of the old Phil Hendrie Show to understand the references).
I can’t think of a single time I have had a problem with an RV. They usually drive slower than the rest of the traffic in the right lanes. They do have a problem if they are switching lanes. I usually look out for that.
A couple of days ago, a couple of bikers ran a stop sign in front of me. The guy was trailing a pickup truck as he made the left hand turn. I was making a right and almost hit him and his female partner who was trailing a little behind him.
He pulled a wheelie in front of me after the incident.
I hope the RV driver is going to be ok. I hope he realizes he’s not responsible for other’s stupidity.
That was Emily Latella.
Yeah, well I live and drive in a place where probably 1/2 of the motorhomes in the USA come each year, so admittedly my results are probably a bit skewed. The mountains are literally littered with these bloated tanks.
And I’ve also run into more than my share of idiots who shouldn’t be on motorcycles either.
I’ll bet that the truth of this incident is somewhere between.
Yes, very true.
I have had many instances where I saw motorcyclists acting like idiots which left me thinking that guy is going to get himself or someone else killed. Never seen or thought that once about a RV driver yet. Big rig yes but not RV yet.
LOL - I give.
(although I'd love to hear someone say, "Chris, you ignorant slut" to Matthews).
“That had to be a dramatic shift in perspective for the motorcylist. “I’ll show that sumbitch” ...very rapidly evolves to..”Oh Sh*t.”
Kinda like some poor sap who voted for Obama so we could get past all this racial stuff.
When I cleared the pickup I tried to move back into the right lane to let the bike go around, but the biker had swerved into the right lane and raced up next to the cab of the truck. He was screaming at me and giving me the finger and yelling for me to pull over. I returned the finger gesture and continued driving. He then tried to kick the front of my truck. When that was unsuccessful he swerved in front of me and hit his brakes. Apparently his single working brain cell kicked in at the point and he changed his mind. I could not have stopped or swerved in time to miss him if he hadn't swerved out of the way at the last moment.
People don't seem to realize that I can't see anything directly behind me when towing. It also takes about twice as long to stop when towing the trailer.
I was driving down the freeway next to a college town when a couple of bikers pulled alongside of me. One went ahead and the other, I swear, pulled in front of me no more than 6-8 feet ahead of my bumper —— at 60mph.
Keep in mind this was a four-lane divided highway - 2 lanes on each side. There was absolutely no need for him to do that - unless he planned to make it happen.
I was stunned at his stupidity. Within 2 seconds he acted like I had intentionally drawn up on him. I believed I was about to be the victim of a staged event for robbery. I wasn't about to pull over. If I'd had a cell phone at that time, I would have dialed 911.
typo - “occasional”
Well, I guess he taught that RV'er a lesson......the lesson being that bikers spread thin on pavement.
Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield.

I guess he forgot how these things work.
My experience with motorcycle drivers and a hard look at safety data can be summarized as follows:
1. Most motorcycle drivers never come close to having an accident.
2. There are a number of motorcycle drivers who are drawn to motorcycles for their perceived higher risk. The purchase of a motorcycle is, for these characters, a death warrant.
3. Most motorcycle drivers who die in accidents have had at least one major automobile accident in the last five years.
4. Most deaths on motorcycles involved people who do not have the motorcycle endorsement on their drivers license.
I think the guy in the motorhome is without fault and he had the unfortunate experience of running into a number two.
Darwin award for the motorcyclist seems to me to be appropriate. At least an honorable mention, perhaps.
Motorcycle not bicycle. However, your general premise is correct. The motorcycle rider was at fault. I sounds to me as if he was trying to cause the RV to lose control and crash. This actually worked but with some unforeseen consequences to the motorcyclist.
I gotta say I get SO PO’d when cages do stupid things that put my life in danger but you gotta remember who you are and where you are. I do admit that when folks do stupid things around me I figure they are mostly driving the same routes so I look for ‘em later in my F-350. I call it the “Iceberg”. Folks respect that.
OOOOO, I’ve seen something like this happen on the way to work on day. This kid in a Mazda 3 was weaving in and out of traffic, not looking, detriot lean, oblivious to everyone else. In my rear view mirror I saw him cut a guy off in an older red pickup truck. Next thing I know I see the kid (now ahead of me) get run into the jersey barriers by the red truck - the truck kept going. I was so happy that day to see the little f@#$%^ got what he deserved.
Read the article, the witnesses say that the biker did exactly that, pulled in front of the RV and braked suddenly. This was after flipping the RV driver off for some unknown(at least to us)reason. It sounds to me as if the biker wanted to cause the RV driver to lose control and didn't figure on being the bug on the windshield. As I said to another poster, unforeseen consequences. Apparently you are a motorcycle rider and for some reason don't want to believe what eye witnesses said. That is your prerogative.
Not much relaxing at Camarillo in this incident.
Apparently you didn’t read the entire article:
CHP Officer Terry Uhrich says the 68-year-old motor home driver was traveling about 55 mph in the southbound lanes in Camarillo and couldn’t avoid slamming into the bike.
I didn’t get the impression at all that the article author was blaming the Motor Home Driver, I got the impression that the Biker was mad about the slow speed of the Motor Home, and tried to piss the poor MH drive off (who did not), but couldn’t react to the Biker’s Childish games..which eventually killed him.
You have a very active imagination.
Uhmm...what?
You divined from a 124 word article that not only was the biker a liberal, but that the RV driver was conservative and the media was trying to make him loo bad to protect the biker.
Did I get that straight? I hope not.
Uhmm...what?
You divined from a 124 word article that not only was the biker a liberal, but that the RV driver was conservative and the media was trying to make him loo bad to protect the biker.
Did I get that straight? I hope not.
A relatively small percentage of the population is willing to kill. That's what these idiots depend upon. Occasionally, they guess wrongly.
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