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Palin Firestorm Brings Fresh Scrutiny to ObamaCare "Death Panels"
Lifesite News ^ | August 11, 2009 | Peter J. Smith

Posted on 08/12/2009 5:47:25 AM PDT by rhema

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin ignited a firestorm over the weekend by calling the health-care reforms pushed by President Barack Obama "downright evil" for proposals that could usher in rationing, and turn federal health boards into "death panels" that would decide whether the elderly and the disabled, like her infant Down's syndrome son, Trig, were "worthy of health-care." Palin's provocative statements, however, have brought fresh scrutiny of the dangers of the proposed "Heath Benefits Advisory Committee," if it were to adopt guidelines of a "Complete Lives System" advocated by Obama's policy advisor on health care reform, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel.

Many Americans have flocked to town-hall meetings to protest what they see as the imminent government-takeover of the health-care industry, which makes up one-sixth of the total American economy. But more and more Americans revolting at Congress's health-care reforms have expressed fears for the health-care of the elderly and disabled, whom they fear will be victims of rationing and even passive euthanasia by way of the "advance care planning consultation" provisions featured on pages 424 - 443 of HR 3200, "the American Affordable Health Choices Act."

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil," said Palin communicating through her Facebook page, which has over 715,000 subscribers.

Although the White House and members of the mainstream media rushed to dismiss Palin's statement as "nuts," the threat of the government insurance plan becoming a "death panel" for the weakest members of society may not be far off the mark. ABC News recently reported that the Oregon Health Plan refused to cover cancer drugs that cost $4000 per a month for Barbara Wagner, a 64 year-old terminally ill patient with lung cancer. Instead they offered to give her a one-time prescription for lethal drugs to end her life, which would cost the state health provider only $50.

Palin attacked the promise of Congressional Democrats that the government plan would reduce the cost of health care, saying "as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost."

"Health care by definition involves life and death decisions. Human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion," concluded Palin.

A main feature of the legislation is a proposed "Health Benefits Advisory Committee" under the Executive Branch, which would be charged with determining "essential benefits" for all health-insurance plans and formulate standards for treatment that incorporate cost-cutting strategies. The federal health board would be comprised of a panel of medical experts, half of which would be nominated by the President. Under the current proposal, the HBAC would be independent of Congress, and its rules and recommendations guiding doctor treatments and insurance companies could only be overturned if Congress, the Executive Branch, and ordinary citizens through the judiciary act within 30 days. Even then, the actions of the Committee would have to be accepted or rejected in toto, with no exceptions.

But Palin pointed out the enormous danger for federal health boards becoming "death panels" through a policy of rationing, esp. by following the policy proposed by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, an issue first raised by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.)

Emanuel is a key advisor of Obama's health care reform as health-policy adviser at the White House's Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. A member of the National Institutes of Health's Clinical Bioethics Council and brother to Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, he advocates "The Complete Lives System," which as he described in a Jan. 31, 2009 article, "prioritizes younger people who have not yet lived a complete life."

Emanuel's approach has five principles which he lays out in "Principles for Allocation of Scarce Medical Interventions" published on January 31, 2009: "youngest first, prognosis, save most lives, lottery, instrumental value."

"When the worst-off can benefit only slightly, while the better-off could benefit greatly, allocating to the better off is often justifiable," wrote Emanuel.

He continued that the CLS discrimination based on age is not "invidious discrimination" because "everyone who is 65 years now was once 25 years." But in the CLS, care would also be rationed away from young people with a "poor prognoses" because they lack "the potential to live a complete life." (Read here)

Emanuel has also stated that doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously, and stated that "Savings [in the medical industry] will require changing how doctors think about their patients" in a 2008 article written for the Journal of the American Medical Association. In a separate 1996 article for the Hastings Center Report, Emanuel spoke about rationing care away from those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens" to the non-disabled, adding "An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia."

Approximately 33 percent of medical spending occurs in the final year of a patient's life, and throughout the legislation (HR 3200), enormous pressures are put upon on physicians and medical professionals to incentivize them to cut costs.

Opponents, especially at tumultuous town-halls, have expressed fears that current provisions in the bill for government-run health-care could lead to doctors thinking of the bottom line first, could end up pressuring patients through "advanced care planning consultations" (sec. 1233) into accepting lower-quality care or care they do not want, out of a feeling that they pose some kind of burden on their families or society. Under that section in the version under discussion by the House Ways and Means Committee, doctors would formulate with patients end-of-life orders, regarding their desire to continue or discontinue antibiotic treatments or nutrition and hydration under particular circumstances.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obama; palin; prolife

1 posted on 08/12/2009 5:47:25 AM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema

This is just sickening. They want people to work their entire life & pay the govt taxes, & then when it comes time to relax & enjoy life after retirement, they want to get rid of you.

Kudos to Sarah for advocating for all of us & our loved ones!


2 posted on 08/12/2009 5:54:30 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: rhema

An immoral society refuses to help those it deems not worth supporting. This is the true meaning of evil.


3 posted on 08/12/2009 5:55:33 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Take heart, my beloved. It will grow darker still but the dawn will be made all the more glorious.)
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To: rhema
AGH!! Great article but he truncated the most relevant quote to Sarah Palin's comment!!

Here's what the article said:

In a separate 1996 article for the Hastings Center Report, Emanuel spoke about rationing care away from those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens" to the non-disabled, adding "An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia."

And here's the more complete quote from the 1996 hastings article:

"Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia. A less obvious example Is is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason."
4 posted on 08/12/2009 5:56:49 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: rhema

Wasn’t Murkowski’s dad a crook and a enemy of Palin? Didn’t Palin run as a purge against the corrupt politics of Murkowski and her father?


5 posted on 08/12/2009 5:57:23 AM PDT by Cathy
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To: rhema

"YOU TELL GRANDMA SHE CAN GO SUCK PAIN-PILLS - I'M PULLING THE PLUG!"

6 posted on 08/12/2009 5:58:40 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cathy

Sorry - wrong thread - or I read something wrong. In either case I need more coffee.......


7 posted on 08/12/2009 5:59:35 AM PDT by Cathy
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To: rhema
White House and members of the mainstream media rushed to dismiss Palin's statement as "nuts,"
Right. Exactly. Its "nuts" as there is nothing specific in HR 3200 about a 'Death Panel'.

Then again, Hitler and Himmler never put down in writing the plans for 'The final Solution' either. It was all done with a wink and a nod and code speak.

'Death Camps for undesirables', responded Herr Hitler, 'utterly preposterous'!
Naturally, he said that in German.
8 posted on 08/12/2009 5:59:41 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Atom Smasher
They want people to work their entire life & pay the govt taxes, & then when it comes time to relax & enjoy life after retirement, they want to get rid of you.

Der Fuhrer and his minions will soon find that people will not go for this, and it is easier to get rid of them - with malice.

11 posted on 08/12/2009 6:03:35 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Just say NO to the Evil Kenyan witch doctor - FUBO --- DON'T TREAD ON ME!!!!!)
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To: rhema

book mark


12 posted on 08/12/2009 6:05:58 AM PDT by jerri
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To: rhema

Obama wen ton to explain exactly why the government should not take over healt care by giving the post office a well-deserved trashing. Hoisted by his own petard.


13 posted on 08/12/2009 6:06:55 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Condor51
"Then again, Hitler and Himmler never put down in writing the plans for 'The final Solution' either. It was all done with a wink and a nod and code speak.

'Death Camps for undesirables', responded Herr Hitler, 'utterly preposterous'!"

Actually, there were the Wannasee Protocols.

14 posted on 08/12/2009 6:07:03 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: rhema

There is no question that health care will be rationed based on who has political power.


15 posted on 08/12/2009 6:09:46 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: rhema

Palin’s comment on the death panels is completely legitimate, and I give her credit for using a term which would draw attention.

Under the Obama plan, the government will run all healthcare. When I’m old, if I get sick, I will have to apply to some government bureaucrat or board to determine what, when, and where I will get treatment. If they scrutinize my records, and determine my affliction is not worth treating, they will deny me treatment, or authorize some other ineffective treatment. I will not have the option of paying for th2e treatment myself, as the government will control all healthcare in the U.S. There will be no private doctors. They will not have killed me, in a Hitler, gas-oven sense. They’ll just deny me care, if they think I’m not worth saving, and I will die anyway.

Sure sounds like a “death panel” to me.


16 posted on 08/12/2009 6:10:14 AM PDT by Big E
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To: rhema

marking


17 posted on 08/12/2009 6:12:29 AM PDT by knews_hound (I for one welcome our new Insect overlords!)
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To: Condor51

Here is a clue- this part of the bill describes processes and procedures to OBTAIN life-sustaining treatments. It’s an opt-in, your “coalition of stake holders” acting in accordance with applicable state Law (Like Oregon’s) decide whether you get life-sustaining treatment. What if, at the end of the process, the stakeholders (including you, you have a voice, but the insurance provider has the money and the doctors have the tools) it’s decided that you don’t get the Enabling Order for Life-Sustaining Treatments? Gotta save that 30% end-of-life expense to make universal health care less expensive for all [that are still alive].

1 ‘‘(F)(i) Subject to clause (ii), an explanation of
2 orders regarding life sustaining treatment or similar
3 orders, which shall include—
4 ‘‘(I) the reasons why the development of
5 such an order is beneficial to the individual and
6 the individual’s family and the reasons why
7 such an order should be updated periodically as
8 the health of the individual changes;
9 ‘‘(II) the information needed for an indi
10 vidual or legal surrogate to make informed deci
11 sions regarding the completion of such an
12 order; and
13 ‘‘(III) the identification of resources that
14 an individual may use to determine the require
15 ments of the State in which such individual re
16 sides so that the treatment wishes of that indi
17 vidual will be carried out if the individual is un
18 able to communicate those wishes, including re
19 quirements regarding the designation of a sur
20 rogate decisionmaker (also known as a health
21 care proxy).
22 ‘‘(ii) The Secretary shall limit the requirement
23 for explanations under clause (i) to consultations
24 furnished in a State—
1 ‘‘(I) in which all legal barriers have been
2 addressed for enabling orders for life sustaining
3 treatment to constitute a set of medical orders
4 respected across all care settings; and
5 ‘‘(II) that has in effect a program for or
6 ders for life sustaining treatment described in
7 clause (iii).
8 ‘‘(iii) A program for orders for life sustaining
9 treatment for a States described in this clause is a
10 program that—
11 ‘‘(I) ensures such orders are standardized
12 and uniquely identifiable throughout the State;
13 ‘‘(II) distributes or makes accessible such
14 orders to physicians and other health profes
15 sionals that (acting within the scope of the pro
16 fessional’s authority under State law) may sign
17 orders for life sustaining treatment;
18 ‘‘(III) provides training for health care
19 professionals across the continuum of care
20 about the goals and use of orders for life sus
21taining treatment; and
22 ‘‘(IV) is guided by a coalition of stake
23 holders includes representatives from emergency
24 medical services, emergency department physi
25 cians or nurses, state long-term care associa-
1 tion, state medical association, state surveyors,
2 agency responsible for senior services, state de
3 partment of health, state hospital association,
4 home health association, state bar association,
5 and state hospice association.
6 ‘‘(2) A practitioner described in this paragraph is—
7 ‘‘(A) a physician (as defined in subsection
8 (r)(1)); and
9 ‘‘(B) a nurse practitioner or physician’s assist
10 ant who has the authority under State law to sign
11 orders for life sustaining treatments.


18 posted on 08/12/2009 6:14:42 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Atom Smasher

Even for active working people it will be cheap cares at high costs


19 posted on 08/12/2009 6:17:49 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: rhema
Emanuel's approach has five principles which he lays out in "Principles for Allocation of Scarce Medical Interventions" published on January 31, 2009: "youngest first, prognosis, save most lives, lottery, instrumental value."

The Emanuel/Obama approach assumes a world of static resources with no medical progress. The real world situation, up to now, has been that expensive experimental treatments are tried on the rich customers. If they work and are effective, the treatments will be used for more people and the cost comes down. Government control will bring an end to medical progress since the new treatments will be too expensive (and illegal)to use.

20 posted on 08/12/2009 6:17:56 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: rhema
The "Death Panel" is there, but not where this article states. The House bill calls for the creation of a "Comparative Effectiveness Research Commission" to decide what medicine and treatments the government will allow patients to receive, and will allow to be paid for by "private" insurance, based on their being "effective," depending on whether the patient is deemed worth it because of age, potential productivity, health, and other factors. It mandates the creation of a commission like the UK's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, or NICE, which assigns a value to a life based on age, existing conditions, etc. If a procedure or treatment exceeds that price, you don't get the medicine, treatment or procedure.

This is outlined in Title IV of the House bill, HR 3200:

TITLE IV—QUALITY 11 Subtitle A—Comparative Effectiveness Research SEC. 1401. COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH. (a) IN GENERAL.—title XI of the Social Security Act is amended by adding at the end the following new part: ‘‘PART D—COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ‘‘COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ‘‘SEC. 1181. (a) CENTER FOR COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ESTABLISHED.— ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall establish within the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality a Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’) to conduct, support, and synthesize research (including research conducted or supported under section 1013... 1 of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003) with respect to the outcomes, effectiveness, and appropriateness of health care services and procedures in order to identify the manner in which diseases, disorders, and other health conditions can most effectively and appropriately be prevented, diagnosed, treated, and managed clinically...

It goes on for a long time, but this is the gist of it, if anyone wants to read it.

21 posted on 08/12/2009 6:23:10 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: rhema
The "Death Panel" is there, but not where this article states. The House bill calls for the creation of a "Comparative Effectiveness Research Commission" to decide what medicine and treatments the government will allow patients to receive, and will allow to be paid for by "private" insurance, based on their being "effective," depending on whether the patient is deemed worth it because of age, potential productivity, health, and other factors. It mandates the creation of a commission like the UK's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, or NICE, which assigns a value to a life based on age, existing conditions, etc. If a procedure or treatment exceeds that price, you don't get the medicine, treatment or procedure.

This is outlined in Title IV of the House bill, HR 3200:

TITLE IV—QUALITY 11 Subtitle A—Comparative Effectiveness Research SEC. 1401. COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH. (a) IN GENERAL.—title XI of the Social Security Act is amended by adding at the end the following new part: ‘‘PART D—COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ‘‘COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ‘‘SEC. 1181. (a) CENTER FOR COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ESTABLISHED.— ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall establish within the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality a Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’) to conduct, support, and synthesize research (including research conducted or supported under section 1013... 1 of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003) with respect to the outcomes, effectiveness, and appropriateness of health care services and procedures in order to identify the manner in which diseases, disorders, and other health conditions can most effectively and appropriately be prevented, diagnosed, treated, and managed clinically...

It goes on for a long time, but this is the gist of it, if anyone wants to read it.

22 posted on 08/12/2009 6:23:15 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Redleg Duke

But the Wannasee Protocols were ambigious at best. Only when the death camps in the East came to light did the Wannasee Proctols become “understandable.”


23 posted on 08/12/2009 6:26:59 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about Throw Away the Scabbard - a Civil War alternate history.)
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To: Condor51
Right on!

The primary point of the Health Plan is that benefits will have to be rationed and a board will be established to accomplish that.

Ezekiel Emanuel's own words have described precisely what must happen when healthcare is allocated/rationed by the state...

"those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic."

"Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia."

"A less obvious example Is is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason."**

When rationing is accomplished by the state, not by families desires to support their love ones, the rule for allocation will to the fittest first (as determined by the state) and to the less fit (again determined by the state) if anything remains.

Not only is there massive opportunity for political meddling (imagine "pay for play" injected into healthcare) but the biases of the party in power will bleed into the life and death decisions affecting the citizens.

That means that the "boards" will be "life panels" for those they favor and "death panels" for those they don't.

** Where Civic Republicanism and Deliberative Democracy Meet, Ezekiel J. Emanuel The Hastings Center pages 3-4

24 posted on 08/12/2009 6:30:09 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Wherever politics tries...to do the work of God, it becomes...demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Condor51
Right on!

The primary point of the Health Plan is that benefits will have to be rationed and a board will be established to accomplish that.

Ezekiel Emanuel's own words have described precisely what must happen when healthcare is allocated/rationed by the state...

"those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic."

"Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia."

"A less obvious example Is is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason."**

When rationing is accomplished by the state, not by families desires to support their love ones, the rule for allocation will to the fittest first (as determined by the state) and to the less fit (again determined by the state) if anything remains.

Not only is there massive opportunity for political meddling (imagine "pay for play" injected into healthcare) but the biases of the party in power will bleed into the life and death decisions affecting the citizens.

That means that the "boards" will be "life panels" for those they favor and "death panels" for those they don't.

** Where Civic Republicanism and Deliberative Democracy Meet, Ezekiel J. Emanuel The Hastings Center pages 3-4

25 posted on 08/12/2009 6:30:16 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Wherever politics tries...to do the work of God, it becomes...demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: DBrow

bookmark


26 posted on 08/12/2009 6:32:57 AM PDT by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: Condor51

Unfortunately for citizens of Nazi Germany, Hitler made sure his opponents were crushed, vanquished or sent into exile. If there was anybody like Sarah Palin in Nazi Germany, she would have been soon exposed by an informer or by her own public proclamations, expeditiously sent to a concentration camp to languish or liquidated ASAP.

The only reason Sarah can carry so much weight with the American people now is NOT because of the beneficence of the American government or the Messiah but because of the Constitution that supersedes it which allows Sarah the opportunity to speak her mind as a free citizen without the threat of imprisonment or liquidation.

If Obama, the Far Left and its Marxist agenda is defeated, we owe it to the wisdom of the Founding Fathers who established a framework in which Americans could regain their freedom without resorting to violence and without the threat of totalitarian government suppression.


27 posted on 08/12/2009 6:35:23 AM PDT by techno
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To: Redleg Duke
Actually, there were the Wannasee Protocols.
I read that link. If you'll note Hitler or Himmler wasn't there and aren't mentioned. Even Himmler's right hand man Heydrich isn't listed as an attendee just what the Reich Marshal (Himmler) appointed him to do.

Hitler and Himmler had 'plausible deniability', or so they thought.

28 posted on 08/12/2009 6:37:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: rhema

SARAH!


29 posted on 08/12/2009 6:42:56 AM PDT by onedoug (SARAH!)
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To: carton253

Sort of reminds you of Obamacare, doesn’t it!


30 posted on 08/12/2009 6:52:25 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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Affirming that the State of Texas claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the U.S. Constitution, serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates, and providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed.

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31 posted on 08/12/2009 7:22:10 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: rhema
Obama regularly expresses amazement that anyone could possibly think he has evil motives about any of this, yet he closely associates with folks who do.

For example, there's Bill Ayers (and his ex-convict wife) the mad bomber. Guy is unrepenetant about his attempts to murder people with bombs, or actually murdering his girlfriend and homosexual lover simultaneously with a faulty bomb design.

Then there's Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel who is an advocate for forced euthenasia, forced infanticide, torture of the helpless elderly and so on.

Frankly, there's no reason whatsoever to TRUST Obama with affairs of state or government power. He really does seem to be the sort of person the Bill of Rights was designed to protect us against.

32 posted on 08/12/2009 7:30:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Condor51
'Death Camps for undesirables', responded Herr Hitler, 'utterly preposterous'!

As he raised his eyebrows and gave Herr Himmler a "meaningful glance" and an ever-so-slight smile.

33 posted on 08/12/2009 8:55:04 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Atom Smasher

She brought publicity to this that no one else had, and I do commend her for that. This is something that she can do very well. Now it would be great for her to make an impassioned speech against the abortion advocacy being put forth by Obama under the guise of health care.


34 posted on 08/12/2009 9:21:02 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: La Lydia
The "Death Panel" is there, but not where this article states. The House bill calls for the creation of a "Comparative Effectiveness Research Commission" to decide what medicine and treatments the government will allow patients to receive, and will allow to be paid for by "private" insurance, based on their being "effective," depending on whether the patient is deemed worth it because of age, potential productivity, health, and other factors. It mandates the creation of a commission like the UK's National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence, or NICE, which assigns a value to a life based on age, existing conditions, etc. If a procedure or treatment exceeds that price, you don't get the medicine, treatment or procedure. This is outlined in Title IV of the House bill, HR 3200:

TITLE IV—QUALITY 11 Subtitle A—Comparative Effectiveness Research SEC. 1401. COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH. (a) IN GENERAL.—title XI of the Social Security Act is amended by adding at the end the following new part: ‘‘PART D—COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ‘‘COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ‘‘SEC. 1181. (a) CENTER FOR COMPARATIVE EFFECTIVENESS RESEARCH ESTABLISHED.— ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall establish within the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality a Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’) to conduct, support, and synthesize research (including research conducted or supported under section 1013... 1 of the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act of 2003) with respect to the outcomes, effectiveness, and appropriateness of health care services and procedures in order to identify the manner in which diseases, disorders, and other health conditions can most effectively and appropriately be prevented, diagnosed, treated, and managed clinically...

It goes on for a long time, but this is the gist of it, if anyone wants to read it.

Good catch.

35 posted on 08/12/2009 9:24:57 AM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Agreed!


36 posted on 08/12/2009 10:36:28 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Ulysse

Even for active working people it will be cheap cares at high costs

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Yes - what’s sad, is even when you are in your 20s-30s & you get a life threatening illness, the “death panel” won’t give you what you need to sustain life...so really, we’re ALL in a world of sh%t if this bill passes.


37 posted on 08/12/2009 10:40:26 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: TheFourthMagi

Well stated!


38 posted on 08/12/2009 10:45:32 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: rhema
Pinged from Terri Dailies


39 posted on 08/12/2009 4:24:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: rhema

I love Sarah Palin, everything will be runnin’ and out she steps from the shadows, says something truthful and valuable and heads explode everywhere. It’s great.

If it wasn’t so serious, it could be fun but she certainly is a breath of much needed fresh air. And where are our other GOP “representatives”?? Nary a peep, what cowardly, pathetic losers and that’s what we’ll be working at: them losing.


40 posted on 08/12/2009 5:19:35 PM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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