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After repeated embarrassments, Dems lock down town halls (NO on voter ID, YES on townhall ID!)
SF Examiner ^ | 08/11/09 6:36 PM PDT | no byline

Posted on 08/12/2009 6:19:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

Tuning in to President Obama's health care town hall today, you couldn't help but notice how much tamer the line of questioning was compared to what Obama's fellow Democrats have been up against.

By and large, instead of the persistent tough queries that greeted the likes of Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) and Arlen Specter (D-Penn.), the president fielded much easier questions.

The toughest questioner tried to tag him on his earlier comments approving of a government-run "single-payer" system but unfortunately couldn't get the point of distinction between it and the much more amorphous "universal" health care system, thus allowing Obama to filibuster on the point and not fully answer the question.

Aside from that, however, the questions were rather tame and besides Obama's gaffe inadvertently conceding that private companies like FedEx and UPS do a better job of shipping packages than the government-controlled Postal Service (effectively undermining his entire point), the conference was rather bland and uneventful.

That's likely by design. As Roll Call reported earlier today, Democrats, at least in the House, have been making some major adjustments to their town hall strategies to ensure that opponents of Obamacare have a lot tougher time making their voices heard:

House Democrats have been talking tough about continuing to hold town halls in the face of disruptive protesters. But many are quietly tweaking their events to minimize the influence of the angry participants.

Rep. Gene Green (D-Texas) announced Monday on his Web site that he is restricting attendance to his public events to residents of his district.

“Unfortunately, due to a coordinated effort to disrupt our town hall meetings, we will be restricting further attendance to residents of the 29th Congressional District and verifying residency by requiring photo identification,” Green said.

Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) spoke on a panel at his Monday night town hall in Clarkston. He set up a designated protest area outside and had extra police on hand, although the event never erupted into shouting matches, according to local reports. [...]

Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) took a different tack: She framed an Aug. 2 town hall as a “prayer vigil,” which had the effect of warding off protesters. [...]

Other Democrats are avoiding public events altogether and instead opting for telephone town halls.

People generally are on better behavior around the president granted, but there seems to have been a distinct sight of stagecraft in Tuesday afternoon's discussion. Expect more of this as the debate moves along.

The irony is palpable in all this considering how during former president George W. Bush's time in office, Democrats persistently criticized him for "staging" events. Now, it seems, the shoe is on the other foot.


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1 posted on 08/12/2009 6:19:20 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise

“verifying residency by requiring photo identification,” Green said. “

Maybe they should insist upon that for voting?


2 posted on 08/12/2009 6:21:04 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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To: 1riot1ranger; Action-America; Aggie Mama; Alkhin; Allegra; American72; antivenom; Antoninus II; ...

Rep. Gene Green (D-Texas) announced Monday on his Web site that he is restricting attendance to his public events to residents of his district.

“Unfortunately, due to a coordinated effort to disrupt our town hall meetings, we will be restricting further attendance to residents of the 29th Congressional District and verifying residency by requiring photo identification,” Green said.


Gene Green has REPEATEDLY voted AGAINST Voter ID legislation.

Damned hypocrite.

The Democrats put The Party ahead of the country EVERY time.


3 posted on 08/12/2009 6:21:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Is this in violation of any open meetings act?


4 posted on 08/12/2009 6:22:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise
It took some sleuthing, but I finally found the ID card that is being accepted...


5 posted on 08/12/2009 6:22:49 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I can see a strategery ahead that will finally require voters to show ID...

rumors of tea baggers arriving by the busload at democrat congressmen’s polling places


6 posted on 08/12/2009 6:25:43 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: a fool in paradise
The demotards need to listen or they will be in a bigger mess than the war protests of the 70’s. The national guard killed 4 at Kent State and that will be just a drop in the bucket if the government tries to force socialism/communism on us. The Hippie commune (communist) movement did not work then and it will not work now on a larger scale.
8 posted on 08/12/2009 6:26:07 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: a fool in paradise
People generally are on better behavior around the president granted

So dissent and debate = bad behavior.

9 posted on 08/12/2009 6:26:36 AM PDT by uptoolate (2010: When Americans Pass The 'No Congressman Left Behind Act')
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

STATE DEMOCRATIC/SOCIALIST PARTY would be more appropriate.


10 posted on 08/12/2009 6:26:42 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: a fool in paradise
Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) took a different tack: She framed an Aug. 2 town hall as a “prayer vigil"...

There is no perversion like California perversion. The cynicism and utter contempt for morality in California is like nowhere else on earth. Sanchez 's labelling her town hall meeting as a "prayer vigil" has got to be the most hateful use of the liberal label-warfare system I've seen in a long time (and that's saying something).

Not to mention the fact that she should be protested over using her governmental power to force a religious event in combination with her governmental responsibilities (something I'm sure she would herself protest if it was done by a conservative).

11 posted on 08/12/2009 6:27:59 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: a fool in paradise

http://www.house.gov/green/news_center/events.shtml

Town hall meetings are one of my favorite ways to communicate with constituents. I have held hundreds during my years of service in Congress and always welcomed everyone to attend. Unfortunately, due to a coordinated effort to disrupt our town hall meetings, we will be restricting further attendance to residents of the 29th Congressional District and verifying residency by requiring photo identification. Whether individuals agree or disagree, we must maintain order to have a civil discussion of the issues. While I regret this restriction, it is necessary for the safety and consideration of our constituents. Those who do not reside in the 29th Congressional should contact their Member of Congress to voice any concerns that they may have on issues before Congress. Click Here to determine your Member of Congress.

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He opposed efforts to verify that persons VOTING in the 29th Congressional district ACTUALLY LIVED THERE.

Damned hypocrite. Then again, he IS a Democrat.


12 posted on 08/12/2009 6:30:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Hey, you can't blame them. Stacking the audience to have a sense of unity worked before. Look at this happy group of like-minded people standing for national unity under a socialist.


13 posted on 08/12/2009 6:30:25 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: a fool in paradise
Liberal's "town meetings",

fake protesters,

fake letters to the editor,

trolls who pretend to be conservatives to discredit us...

so this "meeting" was a set-up and a lie ???-

is anyone really surprised?

14 posted on 08/12/2009 6:30:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal paid protesters ...http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2310139/replies?c=22)
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To: a fool in paradise

So do their voters.


15 posted on 08/12/2009 6:31:20 AM PDT by Dahoser (The missus and I joined the NRA. Who says Obama can't inspire conservatives?)
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To: a fool in paradise

marking


16 posted on 08/12/2009 6:31:46 AM PDT by knews_hound (I for one welcome our new Insect overlords!)
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To: F15Eagle

“Papers please”


17 posted on 08/12/2009 6:31:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: uptoolate
So dissent and debate = bad behavior.

Not according to Hillery!!! Hah!

18 posted on 08/12/2009 6:32:13 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: a fool in paradise

“Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) took a different tack: She framed an Aug. 2 town hall as a “prayer vigil,”

So now the liberals believe in prayer?

To whom, I wonder?

(sorry, Father, I am judging, yes.)


19 posted on 08/12/2009 6:33:10 AM PDT by hoe_cake (A member of the Society of the Descendants of the Signers of the Constitution.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The news needs to be made outside these meetings.

Surround the forum buildings with signs that say “We Surround You”. 912 project


20 posted on 08/12/2009 6:33:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (90% of our problems could be resolved with a government 10% of the size it is now.)
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To: a fool in paradise

The irony is so sweet. No ID to vote, but an ID required to get face to face with a polictician.


21 posted on 08/12/2009 6:34:13 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: a fool in paradise
Unfortunately, due to a coordinated effort to disrupt our town hall meetings, we will be restricting further attendance to residents of the 29th Congressional District and verifying residency by requiring photo identification,” Green said.

He's for a tougher standard to get into one of these Town Halls, than he is to get into a voting booth?

22 posted on 08/12/2009 6:34:38 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: a fool in paradise

Achtung, show us your papers!

23 posted on 08/12/2009 6:35:16 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: a fool in paradise
"Like nearly every other town hall the White House has hosted, the vast majority of the tickets were made available through a Web site where people could register for the opportunity to receive tickets to attend. "

What website is that? flag.wh.g0v?

24 posted on 08/12/2009 6:36:17 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Talisker
Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) took a different tack: She framed an Aug. 2 town hall as a “prayer vigil"...

Quick, somebody call the ACLU, she's not separating church and state.

25 posted on 08/12/2009 6:36:30 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: a fool in paradise
The democrats said we couldn't pass a voter ID bill that would guarantee one vote per legal citizen because the poor and needy wouldn't have access to the cards.

So, how can their health plan work if they can't get the health care cards to the ones who need it most?

I guess we'll just have to cancel the health care bill. There's no way every voter would be able to get a health care card. The democrats said so themselves.

26 posted on 08/12/2009 6:37:02 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: a fool in paradise

Actually, this may not be bad.

Most of the regular folks are constituents. This will keep out the bussed in purple shirted thugs and other DNC goons more than it will keep out the conservatives.


27 posted on 08/12/2009 6:37:21 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: a fool in paradise
What really happened in yesterday's contrived Town Hall meeting with the President is that Obama SHOWED THE DEM REPS HOW TO HOLD A TOWN HALL MEETING.

He was not so much making a small effort on his own as he was setting a model for them all to follow so they can have tame, contrived audiences and questions and avoid the obvious...that he American people are madder than sin and rejecting Obama and his initiatives, particularly health care.

But their efforts to try and turn this will not work. The train has already left the station.

So, as time goes on, and the heat turns up on Health Care, and as more and more Americans simply refuse to be quiet and accept what the Obama administration and the DNC propose, the lies and deception of the Obama administration and the DNC leadership are becoming more and more apparent...and as they do, they also become more and more shrill.

Here is what Obama said to the American people at a contrived "town hall" in New Hampshire on Tuesday, August 11, 2009.

"I have not said that I was a single payer supporter.” Pres. Barack Hussein Obama, Aug 11, 2009

Compare that to what he said while campaigning for the Senate to his union supporters, and was cheered while so doing:

“I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we’ve got to take back the White House, we’ve got to take back the Senate, and we’ve got to take back the House.” - Barack Hussein Obama, June 30, 2003 to AFL-CIO

I guess he thinks he can say whatever he wants at any given time and it will be truth. That is the definition of a pathological liar. He and those around him and supporting him are drunk with power and control, and this issue is rapidly sizing up to be a "Bridge too Far," for their marxist ideology and radical health care agenda.

Their pronouncements and actions are like every other repressive, tin-horn regime in history. Label the opposition with exactly what they themselves are doing and then use the government controlled and co-opted press to spread that lie, and then use their thugs to try and enforce it and stamp out dissent.

Well, not any more in this country. The health care debate has blown the lid off and it's time to carry it through on this issue and every other similiar issue (like Cap & Trade, FOCA, etc.) that these wanna-be tyrants propose.

President Barack Hussein Obama said on August 7, 2009, that he expected the people who caused the financial and health care mess to be quiet, stand out of the way, and let it be fixed. Well, Mr. President, if you do not want the people who created this mess standing in the way of fixing it, then you, Mr. Obama...and Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Frank, et all had best step out of the way yourselves. Because you not only helped engineer the problems that ensured the fiasco...you are now intent on making it immeasurably worse in your drive towards abject marxism.

In order to hide this, and in an effort to push their monstrosity Health Care, the liberal-left and Obama seem intent on turning the frustration and angst of the American people over his policies into something more akin to Iran over this issue, with their own Basij thugs sent out to silence us, and Obama supporters called on by the Whitehouse to report any dissent.

MY LETTER TO THE WHITEHOUSE AND OBAMA ABOUT FREE SPEECH

Despite all this, the American people are downloading the Dem Health Care Plan HERE and elsewhere and educating themselves.

They are also reading the cited quotes of the main architect of the plan and Chief Advisor to Obama on Health Care HERE and elsewhere, and seeing the context of the plan from the designer of it.

So, when Sarah Palin callis it evil, they know for themselves that she speaks the truth.

So they continue to take their feelings...and their own documentation...to their reps and gett in their faces about it.


EZEKIEL EMANUEL AND THE OBAMA CARE FINAL SOLUTION

(Must Read - Shocking quotes by Emanuel)


OBAMA CARE BY THE NUMBERS


THE STORM UNLEASHED ON AMERICA

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION

A 4TH OF JULY TEA PARTY SPEECH

...and on the lighter side, take your mind off the Obamanation for a few minutes and enjoy some beautiful Western US scenery slideshows.

JEFF HEAD'S WESTERN US SCENERY SLIDE SHOWS

28 posted on 08/12/2009 6:39:56 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: keats5
"This will keep out the bussed in purple shirted thugs and other DNC goons more than it will keep out the conservatives."

Sure it will...

You can take that to the bank...

Not really i'm serious...

(not...)

29 posted on 08/12/2009 6:40:32 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: a fool in paradise
Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) took a different tack: She framed an Aug. 2 town hall as a “prayer vigil,” which had the effect of warding off protesters.

Paging ACLU....Paging ACLU....Please pick the white hypocrite phone.

30 posted on 08/12/2009 6:42:23 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: Jeff Head

Hold their feet to the fire.

When they deny endgame goals of Obamacare, Hillarycare, Kennedycare, whatever they want to call it this go around, demand that they put in provisions to explicitly PROHIBIT what they claim will never come to pass.

PROHIBIT funding of abortions.

PROHIBIT rationing of services to those deemed “productive” (denial of services to those who are “unproductive”)

etc.


31 posted on 08/12/2009 6:42:42 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise

0bama town hall was nothing more than oiling up the robots.


32 posted on 08/12/2009 6:44:34 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Democrats are despicable.


33 posted on 08/12/2009 6:46:14 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Democrat party: just another name for marxism)
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To: Paladin2

Fox News reported this morning that the little girl that asked Obama a question was the daughter of a big Obama supporter..who had been to the WH on numerous occasions. The whole thing was staged and everybody knows it!


34 posted on 08/12/2009 6:47:15 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: keats5

“This will keep out the bussed in purple shirted thugs and other DNC goons more than it will keep out the conservatives.”

Maybe. Maybe not. The event ‘organizers’ have to get in early to ‘set up’.


35 posted on 08/12/2009 6:47:22 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Likely stories ping


36 posted on 08/12/2009 6:49:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Likely stories ping


37 posted on 08/12/2009 6:49:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I have never seen a better plan for using your job.


38 posted on 08/12/2009 6:51:23 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

Should have read losing your job.


39 posted on 08/12/2009 6:52:02 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Talisker

A liberal invoking prayer or God

is truly the definition of taking the Lord’s Name in vain.

2 Cor 2:17
Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God.


40 posted on 08/12/2009 6:53:37 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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41 posted on 08/12/2009 6:55:40 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: swain_forkbeard; Mad Dawgg

Even if the “organizers” go in early to “set up,” this rule can still be used against them. Even the Purple Shirts need to exit sometime, and folks with video cameras can be waiting. When they exit, folks can video while they ask the “organizers” to show their photo IDs. When they refuse to do so, that refusal can be shown all over the net the next day.

Our goal is to win the hearts and minds of the American public. They may run their staged meetings, but if everyone knows they’re staged, the meetings will do more harm than good for the rats.

Use their own rules against them.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if Alinsky helped us take this republic back?


42 posted on 08/12/2009 6:58:22 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Dennis Moore (D, 3rd, Ks) wasn’t going to hold any townhalls either,

but got an “excuse” yesterday when an angry constituent called his office.

Reportedly, the caller “raised his voice” and was “very critical of Moore” and “mentioned health care reform” but never threatened Moore or his staff.

This was Moore’s excuse to cry for the safety of his staff and his constituents and not hold any town halls.

Sounds like Dennis needs to find his dry big boy pants.


43 posted on 08/12/2009 6:58:26 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: boomop1

I SO agree with that.


44 posted on 08/12/2009 6:58:29 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: RegulatorCountry

“Quick, somebody call the ACLU, she’s not separating church and state.”

I believe jail is the appropriate remedy for this offense against The Leader and his State.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2313893/posts

The NappyOne


45 posted on 08/12/2009 6:59:09 AM PDT by NappyOne
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To: penelopesire
The only people allowed in 0bama health care town hall meetings.
46 posted on 08/12/2009 6:59:23 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama, the first ever 3 in a half year, lame duck TOTUS)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Aside from that, however, the questions were rather tame and besides Obama’s gaffe inadvertently conceding that private companies like FedEx and UPS do a better job of shipping packages than the government-controlled Postal Service (effectively undermining his entire point), the conference was rather bland and uneventful.”

He intentionally put this in the public record to cover his behind when/if the health care bill is passed and when it becomes a huge failure. He’ll simply bring this up as something he is on record saying and everyone in the MSM will go with him on it. Someone needs to record that this was in fact a slip up and he personally believes the government can do a better job than private industry.


47 posted on 08/12/2009 7:00:15 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: a fool in paradise
Rep. Gene Green (D-Texas) announced Monday on his Web site that he is restricting attendance to his public events to residents of his district.

That won't fly...since he is holding it in a PUBLIC LIBRARY....

48 posted on 08/12/2009 7:01:21 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: a fool in paradise

Suppose Jive Talkin’ Liar Obama, gave a “Town Hall”
...and everyone realized it was just another rigged Socialist Union Mobster Goon packed Pep Rally?

...the American People...locked outside.

and the U.S. Secret Service, complicit in the political goonery...


49 posted on 08/12/2009 7:23:34 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: keats5
This will keep out the bussed in purple shirted thugs and other DNC goons

Not at all, they will be let in a side door with no ID check required.

50 posted on 08/12/2009 7:24:16 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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