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Obama questions Hip Replacement for Terminally Ill
MINA ^ | 12 August 2009 | MINA

Posted on 08/12/2009 9:27:48 AM PDT by NotSoModerate

“I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost,” Obama said in the interview. “I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.”

Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill.

“That’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues,” he said in the April 14 interview. “The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”

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1 posted on 08/12/2009 9:27:48 AM PDT by NotSoModerate
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To: NotSoModerate

“The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”

This can’t be true.


2 posted on 08/12/2009 9:29:06 AM PDT by nikos1121 (praying for -13)
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To: nikos1121

Democrats= Death Party


3 posted on 08/12/2009 9:29:59 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (" An American Idol President")
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To: NotSoModerate

“That’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues,” he said in the April 14 interview.

Liberals have no moral issues, that’s the whole problem.


4 posted on 08/12/2009 9:29:59 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: NotSoModerate
Above his pay-grade, evidently.
5 posted on 08/12/2009 9:30:04 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: NotSoModerate
“I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.”

It's illegal in Canada.

6 posted on 08/12/2009 9:31:35 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: NotSoModerate
3 immediate thoughts

1. he would pay for his grandmother with SAUDI money. He has never paid for anything out of his own pocket.

2. the taxpayers are supporting his illegal alien aunt who lives in Boston.. not the obamanation.

3. he received and continues to receive millions from Soros, the Saudis and other muslim groups....

7 posted on 08/12/2009 9:31:55 AM PDT by bareford101 (What Obama is doing to America is REVERSE-TREASON)
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To: NotSoModerate

Remember Terri Schivo? The only ones wishing for her death were leftists. The dems. Snake lawyers. Larry King.

The left WANTS the elderly to die. They are so compassionate: “just give them a pain pill”

The left believes in nothing, is nothing, has nothing, hopes for nothing. For them, death is something nice.


8 posted on 08/12/2009 9:31:57 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Nihilism: believing in nothing, hoping for nothing, feeling that nothing is worth anything)
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To: NotSoModerate
3 immediate thoughts

1. he would pay for his grandmother with SAUDI money. He has never paid for anything out of his own pocket.

2. the taxpayers are supporting his illegal alien aunt who lives in Boston.. not the obamanation.

3. he received and continues to receive millions from Soros, the Saudis and other muslim groups....

9 posted on 08/12/2009 9:31:59 AM PDT by bareford101 (What Obama is doing to America is REVERSE-TREASON)
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To: NotSoModerate
My dentist was given 9 months to live with colon cancer. TERMINAL.

That was 7 years ago.

Obama and his guru Dr. Ezekiel Mengele would have CUT HIM OFF from further care.

I'm sure we all know someone with a similar story. Don't let ObamaCare kill them. Tell all your friends.

10 posted on 08/12/2009 9:32:09 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: ScaniaBoy

In other words, he would’ve given his grandmother a pain pill and sent her home. Apparently, she wasn’t worth the cost of the hip replacement.

What a jerk!


11 posted on 08/12/2009 9:32:32 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: NotSoModerate

Certainly this is satire.

I’m beginning to think the whole nationalizing of healthcare is a distraction. He can’t possibly think people won’t pick up on this, can he?


12 posted on 08/12/2009 9:32:52 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: NotSoModerate

Has he ever paid out of his pocket for anything in his life?

Has he ever helped a relative to better their life?


13 posted on 08/12/2009 9:33:48 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: NotSoModerate
I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother.

Hell, he won't even send $1 per month to help his brother in Kenya live in his hut.
14 posted on 08/12/2009 9:34:15 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: NotSoModerate

Sounds like he advocating rationing care to me


15 posted on 08/12/2009 9:34:26 AM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

The left doesn’t believe in the sanctity of human life, except for their own.


16 posted on 08/12/2009 9:35:19 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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To: NotSoModerate

I could easily believe that the elderly account for 80% of the healthcare bill — it makes perfect sense. By time you’re old your body requires more medical care. Young, healthy people do not need medical care of any description. That would surely account for the bulk of the population.

I’m surprised that presents a moral issue to your president. It should instead be bloody obvious.

Hip replacement to the terminally ill? Why not? They tend to also be elderly and to need it most. A new hip can add many years — a decade or more — to someone’s life expectancy. It can certainly enhance the quality of what life a terminally ill patient might have.

I’m stunned your president finds that a moral issue to be struggled with.

The more I read of your president the more he creeps me out.


17 posted on 08/12/2009 9:35:32 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: FreepShop1

They would have offered him a suicide pill up there in Oregon I guess.


18 posted on 08/12/2009 9:35:36 AM PDT by GeronL (http://unitedcitizen.blogspot -Guilty of deviationism- http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: NotSoModerate

I question the election of terminally stupid people to the U.S. Presidency.


19 posted on 08/12/2009 9:36:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: NotSoModerate

Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill.....

Ya Obama!....It’s not like giving sex change operations to prisoners is it?


20 posted on 08/12/2009 9:37:37 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: NotSoModerate

Ahh...so that’s why they wanted to take over GM. All those unused auto plants will make fine mass producing crematoriums. Obama will make Auschwitz look like Disney Land.


21 posted on 08/12/2009 9:38:57 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: NotSoModerate

I look at this as what would I want my family to do if there were no insurance or gov’t payments. If I was terminal, or getting real close to the end of my years, I would not spend my own money on certain things. I would rather leave what I have to my family and face the end with dignity, and not spending money like crazy to wring an extra year or so out of life.

The questions are, IMHO, how much quality time do I have left, how much do I have spend, and what is it I am going to get for my money.

parsy, who is officially a senior citizen now at least according to AARP.


22 posted on 08/12/2009 9:39:11 AM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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To: NotSoModerate
This is already happening and it should be possible to parade a whole host of the elderly before the cameras, telling how Medicare said NO to their operation.

For example, a neighbor was injured in a domestic violence situation, had her rotator cuff damaged. She was told she was too old to have an operation to fix it. Now I can understand not having a blank check to fix every little thing and even some big things depending on the circumstances. But here's the thing:

Obamacare will drive out the private option. Remember Hillarycare, where it would be illegal for a doctor to perform the operation for private money? Well, look for that concept in the bill. Yep. So even Obama's example is flawed because he is taking away the option for you to pay for it on your own.

23 posted on 08/12/2009 9:40:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Why Does Obama Want Health Care in 4 Weeks When it Took Him 6 Months to Pick a Dog?)
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To: nikos1121

>> “The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”

> This can’t be true.

Sure it can. Think about the definitions.

“Chronically ill” = sick all the time, long-term sickness. As opposed to “Acutely ill” = suddenly ill, accidentally ill.

The chronically ill will require constant medical treatment for a very long time, by definition. Acute patients are the ones who break their legs or have car accidents &tc. Far more likely to be a catch-and-release in the medical system.

“Those toward the end of their lives” = the elderly. After a full life, their bodies start to wear out requiring joint replacements, organ replacements &tc. They’re also likely to become chronic patients. By definition, those who are toward the end of their lives are most likely to spend the last part of their lives either in hospice or in hospital.

Is 80% a fair figure for all that? Yes, of course it is. Obama is complaining about a perfectly normal set of circumstances. This breakdown is not going to change no matter how he rations healthcare. 80% of your healthcare budget will be spent treating chronic and elderly patients. It is a fact of life, just like gravity.


24 posted on 08/12/2009 9:41:39 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: NotSoModerate

When it’s MY grandmother, it’s none of YOUR business, Mr. Obama.

Not your money. Not your concern.

Pay attention, now, and read my lips... BUTT. OUT.


25 posted on 08/12/2009 9:42:06 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: DieHard the Hunter

You know what’s kind of funny about this?
When my Dad was terminal, his doctor said that he should be brought into the emergency room any time he was in too much pain and they would start chemo again and see what they could do.

My dad said no and died happily at home.

Sometimes people choose what he is proposing all by themselves.


26 posted on 08/12/2009 9:42:16 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: parsifal

Happy Birthday Parsy!


27 posted on 08/12/2009 9:43:57 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: NotSoModerate

He needs to go to Camp David and hide, is is an idiot the only one with brains is TOUS.


28 posted on 08/12/2009 9:44:04 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: nikos1121
“The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”

This can’t be true.

Tricky, tricky numbers. Mixing the chronically ill and those at the end of their lives. If you are 40 and are on blood pressure medication you are chronically ill. You might have a good 40 or 50 years left, but Obama is mixing that with someone on death's door. I have friends who have been on asthma medication since they were children. That's potentially a good 80 years of chronically (but very treatably) ill. Tricky.

I saw a few days ago that Medicare was approximately 45% of the total national health care bill, private insurance about 40% and self pay about 15%. Although some of the private insurance and self payers will be for end stage terminal cases (accidents, early onset diseases, union insurance that supercedes Medicare in old age), most of the end stage spending will likely be Medicare thus only a part of Medicare's 45%.

29 posted on 08/12/2009 9:44:38 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: nikos1121
“The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”

Yes... there are a lot of people who would be *at* the end of their lives were it not for life-saving treatments. Preemies with under-developed lungs, accident victims, kids with cancer...

If those in the third world can't expect care why should everyone else? Besides, the Obamas need unlimited funding for important vacations. Priorities.

30 posted on 08/12/2009 9:50:37 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: nikos1121

“The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”

He is misquoting a statement concerning the expenses of the MediCare program. The statement should be that approximately 80% of the cost of all medical care received by an individual is spent in the last 6 months of their life.


31 posted on 08/12/2009 9:50:44 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: netmilsmom

Thank you! What is it now, 11 years a freeper. Two more and I become a freeper teenager!

parsy, who is still out looking for the Grail


32 posted on 08/12/2009 9:51:02 AM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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To: NotSoModerate

My mother had both knees replaced after a round with breast cancer. She went from not being able to stand up to walking ten miles a day. Ten years later she died of cancer. If she had not been able to walk those last ten years, her quality of life would have been drastically lower and that alone would have made lose her will to live. Thank God she had free enterprise medicine.
Obama’s Nazi medicine would have written her off and I would not have had her those last few years.


33 posted on 08/12/2009 9:52:52 AM PDT by ReadTheLaw (by Frederic Bastiat)
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To: NotSoModerate
"...I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother..."Uh huh. Except, Hussein, in your socialist paradise, that will be illegal. There will be no "private clinics" that will be allowed to perform the procedure. The person will need to leave the country.

And furthermore, who decides what "terminal" is? Aren't we ALL terminal? And how long is that interval?

34 posted on 08/12/2009 9:53:55 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: NonValueAdded
Remember Hillarycare, where it would be illegal for a doctor to perform the operation for private money?

Donna Shalala threatened to prosecute some Medicare patients who were attempting to pay for procedures themselves because the system was delaying/denying.

35 posted on 08/12/2009 9:56:40 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Hip replacement to the terminally ill? Why not? They tend to also be elderly and to need it most. A new hip can add many years — a decade or more — to someone’s life expectancy. It can certainly enhance the quality of what life a terminally ill patient might have.

Sometimes refusing the hip replacement could be a purely medical decision. Some who are very ill are quite likely to not survive the hip replacement surgery. The choice between a couple more weeks in bed or dying on the operating table is medically pretty easy.

Others are not quite as sick, but will likely (also not guaranteed, everything is a probability game) survive the surgery but never be able to walk again anyway because they are too weak to do the necessary rehab. Having a nice shiny new metal hip and a surgery scar isn't going to help them much.

Where Obamacare kicks in is when the patient has a few months (likely, life expectancy predictions are like weather predictions) left to live, but can spend that getting around on a new hip or lying in bed with the broken on. This is where Dr. Zeke in Washington decides that the patient is a worthless eater and shouldn't have any treatment other than pain relief.

The more I read of your president the more he creeps me out.

I can figure out the Bleeding Heart Liberal who feels everyone's pain (well, except mine on April 15th). Obama seems to be a cold-fish psychotic only able to imitate human emotions. I just can't quite figure out what makes him tick other than a lust for power.

36 posted on 08/12/2009 9:57:11 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: ScaniaBoy
From article: Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill.

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Obama's rationale of "terminally ill" in its utmost conclusion really means that hip replacements are useless no matter what the age: we all will end up on his clunker heap sooner or later.

37 posted on 08/12/2009 9:58:44 AM PDT by Sparko ("Reporting dissent is the highest form of patriotism! "- - Barack Obama in his dreams.)
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To: bgill
Has he ever paid out of his pocket for anything in his life?

Has he ever helped a relative to better their life?

Hey, after they unpacked their new HD TV, Barry asked to have the box it came in shipped to his Kenyan brother - so now George Hussein Onyango Obama has an addition to his hut! Not only that, he helped George secure a loan to enable him to pay for the C.O.D. shipping!

38 posted on 08/12/2009 9:58:44 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: NotSoModerate
“you just get into some very difficult moral issues”

And we all know how 0bama handles "difficult moral issues"; he defends late-stage abortions as well as death by neglect for those infants who survive them.

39 posted on 08/12/2009 9:59:09 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: NotSoModerate

Taking care of an elderly friend forced my husband and I to make a decision to not provide physical therapy so that she could walk on her own again. She was 98, she was not strong enough to walk and continued to injure herself trying....while it was difficult to make that decision, it was OUR decision with her trust...the government had nothing to do with that choice and should NEVER have anything to do with that choice.


40 posted on 08/12/2009 9:59:27 AM PDT by AutumnFire
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To: Cyman
The statement should be that approximately 80% of the cost of all medical care received by an individual is spent in the last 6 months of their life.

That seems horribly high. Most people who die are old and on Medicare. If that 80% number was true, Medicare's share of total national medical expeneses would be a lot higher than 45%.

41 posted on 08/12/2009 9:59:38 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: netmilsmom

I think like your father did. At some point in my life, barring an accident or heart attack, it is just going to be my time to go. I don’t plan on spending what little I do have or putting my family thru a bunch of grief and misery trying to wring a few months or a year or so out of it. I would rather my family have my things and remember me for who I was.

parsy, who will self-ration if necessary


42 posted on 08/12/2009 10:00:06 AM PDT by parsifal ("Where am I? How did I end up in this hospital room? What is my name?" Anonymous)
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To: LearsFool

When it’s MY grandmother, it’s none of YOUR business, Mr. Obama.

To the point exactly!.....My family will take care of my family! GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY OBAMA!


43 posted on 08/12/2009 10:01:06 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: parsifal

I always tell my hubby that if I get false teeth and I’m willing to leave the house without them, it’s time to put me out on the ice.

Give me a cup of coffee, saw a hole in Lake St. Clair, drop a fishing line, then tell everyone that I took up Ice Fishing!!!

Seriously, my Dad saw us spending money on Co-pays that he thought was a waste. He didn’t want to die in a hospital. We were all there when he went. I was 20.


44 posted on 08/12/2009 10:03:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Cyman
Obama said “you just get into some very difficult moral issues” when considering whether “to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill.

“That’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues,” he said in the April 14 interview. “The chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health- care bill out here.”

Your post:

He is misquoting a statement concerning the expenses of the MediCare program. The statement should be that approximately 80% of the cost of all medical care received by an individual is spent in the last 6 months of their life.


He's also putting this wrong, it's not a moral issue, it's a financial decision, whether made by gubmint bureaucrats or one's family. It's a physical benefits decision made by a patient in consultation with his doctor, how much will I gain over how much I risk?
45 posted on 08/12/2009 10:05:00 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: NotSoModerate

I dug up the whole quote, lest we be accused of taking him out of context (which they’ll invariably claim):


THE PRESIDENT: …I actually think that the tougher issue around medical care — it’s a related one — is what you do around things like end-of-life care —

NYT: Yes, where it’s $20,000 for an extra week of life.

THE PRESIDENT: Exactly. And I just recently went through this. I mean, I’ve told this story, maybe not publicly, but when my grandmother got very ill during the campaign, she got cancer; it was determined to be terminal. And about two or three weeks after her diagnosis she fell, broke her hip. It was determined that she might have had a mild stroke, which is what had precipitated the fall.

So now she’s in the hospital, and the doctor says, Look, you’ve got about — maybe you have three months, maybe you have six months, maybe you have nine months to live. Because of the weakness of your heart, if you have an operation on your hip there are certain risks that — you know, your heart can’t take it. On the other hand, if you just sit there with your hip like this, you’re just going to waste away and your quality of life will be terrible.

And she elected to get the hip replacement and was fine for about two weeks after the hip replacement, and then suddenly just — you know, things fell apart.

I don’t know how much that hip replacement cost. I would have paid out of pocket for that hip replacement just because she’s my grandmother. Whether, sort of in the aggregate, society making those decisions to give my grandmother, or everybody else’s aging grandparents or parents, a hip replacement when they’re terminally ill is a sustainable model, is a very difficult question. If somebody told me that my grandmother couldn’t have a hip replacement and she had to lie there in misery in the waning days of her life — that would be pretty upsetting.

NYT: And it’s going to be hard for people who don’t have the option of paying for it.

THE PRESIDENT: So that’s where I think you just get into some very difficult moral issues. But that’s also a huge driver of cost, right?

I mean, the chronically ill and those toward the end of their lives are accounting for potentially 80 percent of the total health care bill out here.

NYT: So how do you — how do we deal with it?

THE PRESIDENT: …you have to have some independent group that can give you guidance. It’s not determinative, but I think has to be able to give you some guidance. And that’s part of what I suspect you’ll see emerging out of the various health care conversations that are taking place on the Hill right now.


46 posted on 08/12/2009 10:05:03 AM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: NotSoModerate; All

Just to be fair, they should just set an age limit and kill people when they reach it. For Democrats age 150 limit, for Republicans age 37 limit. Then Dr Zeke can use our young corpses for organ harvesting including addadictomy’s for prisoners. Live on Mr Happy!


47 posted on 08/12/2009 10:05:58 AM PDT by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: NotSoModerate

Medical resources will always fall short of demand, and the only sensible inquiry is how should they be allocated; by a bureaucrat with his/her own political motivation, or the free market? An example of the bureaucrat’s decision process is when the city of San Francisco decided their employee benefit plan would pay for sex change operations without any recognition that those operations would divert monetary resources from other medical needs. Unless, of course, that the city felt there was a surplus of medical resources???


48 posted on 08/12/2009 10:07:20 AM PDT by Spok
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To: NotSoModerate

Kind of an odd sales pitch...actually it is a pretty stupid sales pitch...unless you are selling to an 18 to 35 age group who do not want to pay for the medical care of their parents?


49 posted on 08/12/2009 10:07:28 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: KarlInOhio

> Obama seems to be a cold-fish psychotic only able to imitate human emotions.

I would have ventured possibly a sociopath. He’s not quite in Idi Amin’s domain... yet. Tho’ Lord knows what he’s done to his brain with drug use.

> I just can’t quite figure out what makes him tick other than a lust for power.

What or possibly who. We’ve heard him called an “empty suit” for quite some time now. His resume is paper thin. This life experiences about nil, and any that he might have documented we’ll never know about because he has them sealed. To me, he’d be a prime candidate for the former KGB (if they were still around) to run by remote control. They were one of the few enemy services capable of such a cunning ruse...

Is someone running Obama? I dunno. Who might it be?


50 posted on 08/12/2009 10:07:49 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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