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Turning Algae Into Oil, with Help from Fish
The New York Times ^ | August 12, 2009 | Matthew L. Wald

Posted on 08/12/2009 4:29:54 PM PDT by Reeses

There are two big problems associated with extracting liquid fuel from algae: getting the algae out of the water, and then getting the oil out of the algae. The pumps and centrifuges required to do this consume a lot of energy.

A California company, LiveFuels, is trying out a new, less energy-intensive approach: It is feeding the algae to small fish — and letting them do the job of harvesting.

After the fish fatten up, workers catch them in nets and process them for oil (as well as protein for animal feed). This is a bit like gathering whale oil, but the fish are closer in size to minnows. The resulting oil is a lot like the Omega 3 oil packaged into capsules and sold in supermarkets as a diet supplement. But it can be used to run cars and trucks, according to the company.

(Excerpt) Read more at greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: algae; biodiesel; opec
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To: Balding_Eagle

We’ll prevent the next ice age and other unwanted climate changes with cloud control. The human influence on clouds is already much more profound and visible than our influence on CO2 levels but the envi-mentalists hate to bring up that subject. More clouds means more freshwater, more wind to churn up ocean nutrients, more mostly good things. 100 years from now when we’re using the open ocean to grow algae for fuel they’ll be laughing at the expensive efforts we tried to reduce plant food. Hopefully the global warming scam will be used frequently as a club against the Luddites.


21 posted on 08/12/2009 5:35:50 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses
So we need to put the CO2 into lots of soft drinks, and grow plants, plants love plant food.

Most knowledgeable people say that the coal supply would last the USA for another 200 years. Generating more oil by many times over the amount in all the Saudi reserves.

22 posted on 08/12/2009 5:38:58 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid)
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To: Tarpon

Yep. Oil only needs to be around $45/bbl to break even on coal gassification.


23 posted on 08/12/2009 5:48:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: Tarpon

North America is the Saudi Arabia of coal. The problem is how to use coal without massive emissions, bringing up the world’s standard of living. We can use coal for now, but eventually we’ll need closed loop technologies such as saltwater algae fuel. We could completely replace the Middle East petroleum industry using 1% of the ocean surface, far from land in the ocean dead zones.


24 posted on 08/12/2009 5:50:13 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses
To heck with these CFLs. Whale oil! Illuminating the FUTURE!

Additional hot stock tip: Invest in buggy whips!

25 posted on 08/12/2009 6:57:04 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Reeses

Ever heard of Occams Razor?

Why not we just use coal and nuclear power like China?

In a few more decades maybe we will have fusion power.


26 posted on 08/12/2009 7:32:20 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid)
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To: Tarpon
Why not we just use coal and nuclear power like China?

China doesn't care about pollution and life is cheap there. Where are we going to get non-idiot nuclear plant workers from, the public school system? From the same pool of people where half voted for Obama? Many private investors have lost their shirts funding nuclear plants, so there are no investors without special new laws to insure their profits, while others take the risk, sort of like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac. Fusion produces radioactive waste too, just less of it. Volume isn't the problem. Where do you put the stuff?

27 posted on 08/13/2009 3:48:58 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses

You reprocess spent fuel, like France does. Too bad the US law, passed by the loony toon Democrats forbid us from doing that. The rest, low level waste is stored in Yucca mountain, Oh yeah, forgot, the Democrats shut down that.

You quickly get the idea that it’s not energy technology that is the problem, It’s the Democrat party that is the problem. Those stupid idiotic leftards who hate America.


28 posted on 08/13/2009 4:59:36 AM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid)
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To: Reeses
Coal to liquid conversion has high CO2 emissions.

That's a political issue, not a physical problem.

29 posted on 08/13/2009 5:41:27 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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To: LTCJ
It's not a physical problem now, but if the American economy were to double, and China and India's go up by a factor of 10, could increasing use of the atmosphere as a sewer continue? We need either cold fusion, or closed loop chemistry, if we want unrestrained wealth and prosperity in the future. Coal to liquid fuel is an emergency wartime resource, but it's not the long term replacement for petroleum.
30 posted on 08/13/2009 6:37:32 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Tarpon
Those stupid idiotic leftards who hate America

They've been with us from the beginning. Cain was the very first leftard, killed his brother Able in envy. We've never figured out any way to get rid of them. They spontaneously re-form from the Universe's disorder. They are the dark half of the human condition.


31 posted on 08/13/2009 6:52:51 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Reeses
My comment was specific to the CO2 aspect; it's a non-issue if we confine ourselves to nonfiction. As far as classic pollutants go, I like clean air as much or more than the next guy.
32 posted on 08/13/2009 9:59:39 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Summer '09)
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To: Reeses

Scientists don’t even understand how clouds form. Any kind of control is a long, long ways down the road.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311377/posts


33 posted on 08/13/2009 5:18:24 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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