Posted on 08/14/2009 9:31:19 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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I'm not a creationist, but I think this is probably the case for this galaxy.
For example, it has been demonstrated that Earth has the right-sized moon to allow life to develop. Life takes a long time to develop. If the moon were smaller (or wasn't there at all), Earth would have an unstable axis: polar regions would change every 100,000 years or so and life wouldn't have a stable environment in which to develop. If the moon were bigger, we'd have an unstable double-planet system. Combined with our relatively quiet location in the galaxy, our abundance of water, our moderate size, our atmosphere and our distance from the sun, I think we have a unique place in the galaxy.
Assuming your calculations are correct, not only would it take 10 million years to get the one cycle, but music is defined as "regular vibrations", so youd have to observe for at least 20 million years to be sure the vibration you first observed was regular.
I think the way the came to the conclusion was to have assigned the "regular vibration" property to the phenomenon then they calculated the number of vibrations per 100 million years to get the pitch.
Wow! You ARE fast!
You must have been reading my mind when I was posting.
Sort of how they are calculating the obama deficit?
Oops, dyslexia strikes again.
"A" above middle C is 440. "A" below middle "C" is 220.
Guess we'll have to re-extrapolate.
One of my physics profs had a recording he’d made of what this would sound like. It was really pretty, a very unique sound.
Yes, I’ve read some of those theories about the moon being a guardian angel for life. It is another reason why I think life may be isolated to earth. The events that allowed the earth to have such a large moon may be very very rare.
I did this at #41 in case you missed it.
ML/NJ
They have numbers for the energy, mass, positions and velocities of the galaxies and particle clouds involved. The configuration is a harmonic oscillator in the first approximation, so they can easily come up with an estimate of what the note is w/o observing an entire wavelength.
“Heh. I beat that in ‘Blazing Saddles’.”
This is very cool.
Gee. I guess my math degrees, physics minor, and those astronomy courses I took didn't do me much good. All I see is a lot of buzzwords in what you write. Maybe you could do some sample math for me. You can even use sines and cosines. I would still have a shot at understanding.
ML/NJ
The ripples are due to the velocity redshifts seen in the radiation from the gas clouds. The gravitational redshifts and positions can be used to find the binding energy, or force constant for the center of mass of the assembly. It can be seen as a reduced mass oscillating according to F=k*x, where k is the gravitational force constant and x is the position of ripple peaks. That oscillator is being driven by the ejecta from the black hole jets; the energy of which is F*x, or 1/2kx2.
"All I see is a lot of buzzwords in what you write. I guess my math degrees, physics minor, and those astronomy courses I took didn't do me much good.
It's a shame.
...and the density indicated by the luminosity...
Teach me.
WTF are ripples?
Is this image you are talking about a simple time lapse image acquired over the 53 hours; or is it more like a race track photo finish image?
ML/NJ
a catalogue from a publisher I bought a book from had a book called Der Klang der Pyramiden, which is in German... the idea is that the concrete representation of the great pyramid derives from the math of Plato’s ideal state which is based in musical harmony - natural cosmic well-formedness - and the great pyramid translates across media into a visual form...
“The secret of the number 5040, described by Plato as the basis of his ideal state, has hitherto been unknown even to classical philologists. Korff has discovered that this number is in fact a pyramid number. It contains the complete total of the dimensions of the Pyramid of Cheops in verifiable measurements.
Through a combination of archaeological intuition and mathematical derivation Korff has succeeded in proving that the angles of inclination of all the Pyramids are formed from musical intervals. Since the sight of the Pyramids cannot be heard, the riddle is solved if we say figuratively: they sound in the eyes, are petrified music, intellectual systems made material. The architects of today have hardly ever succeeded in generating the same fascination as the Egyptian originals in their imitations: they are unaware of the ancient Egyptian knowledge of the harmony of the Pyramids’ inclination.”
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