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How U.S. allies nearly won Vietnam War
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 17, 2009 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 08/15/2009 7:34:58 PM PDT by RobinMasters

In his recent appearance on the Roger Hedgecock Show, Richard Botkin, author of "Ride the Thunder," shares the heroic and largely untold story of how South Vietnamese warriors and their American counterparts almost won the Vietnam War.

Hedgecock's nationally syndicated daily radio show can be heard in 75+ markets and on XM Satellite. His show streams live on WND from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. Eastern.

Marine Capt. Botkin toured battlefields in Vietnam and has chronicled the Vietnamese military organization called TQLC, whose members, with their American advisers, "fought, bled, endured and triumphed against communism."

Botkin's book tells a new Vietnam history with a unique twist – a happy and inspiring ending. It has been an instant hit with booksellers and reviewers, Vietnam vets and the South Vietnamese community in the U.S.

In his interview with Hedgecock, Botkin said his goal in writing the book was to "honor and affirm the warrior" with a story about brave men facing tough times and overcoming in the face of extreme adversity.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: booktour; botkin; ridethethunder; vietnam; vietnamwar
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1 posted on 08/15/2009 7:35:01 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Bookmarking this one. Looking forward to reading the comments. Thanks for the post RobinMasters.


2 posted on 08/15/2009 7:41:03 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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This 'Nam vet will buy it! We were kickin' @$$ when I left, whatever Uncle Walter said!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
3 posted on 08/15/2009 7:42:50 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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My research tells me that we should have won the Vietnam War in 1968 when the USA kicked their butts around and chased them back to the north during the TET offensive.

Our military was so much better than theirs. It was equal to a game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the TCU horned frogs,

but politicians wouldn’t let our guys win the war,

am I right ?


4 posted on 08/15/2009 7:44:32 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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5 posted on 08/15/2009 7:48:09 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: ConorMacNessa

Amen bro


6 posted on 08/15/2009 7:48:16 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama? Not so much.)
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To: RobinMasters; Neil E. Wright; dcwusmc
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7 posted on 08/15/2009 7:48:48 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RobinMasters

Great picture! It’s going on my Facebook page, if you don’t mind.


8 posted on 08/15/2009 7:50:24 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: ConorMacNessa

A Vietnam vet friend, who recently passed away, had a bumper sticker on his truck that said, “We Were Winning When I Left.”

Joe’s finances were a mess when he died. He owed everybody money and his Polish girlfriend didn’t want him to be buried at Lincoln National Cemetery near Joliet, IL (she can’t drive). Thankfully, Catholic Charities came through with a burial plot. I was able to contribute about 20% and an American flag from OIF Marines. I thought that was a nice touch - new veterans saluting a past veteran.


9 posted on 08/15/2009 7:52:54 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
My dad was a Thud pilot July 67 - May 68 and I have done a lot of research on what these pilots were able to do and not do. If the government hadn't tied the Thud pilots hands behind their backs, we would have seen a different result in Vietnam. Those pilots could have completely cut off the troops and supplies moving south and with what you are saying about kicking butts and moving them north, it would have been a different story. God bless our Military, the greatest in the world, then, now and in the future.
10 posted on 08/15/2009 7:56:13 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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You are correct! When the VC were wiped out during the Tet, North Vietnam had no choice but to use their own army. If we had continued supporting South Vietnam especially with air power, the South would be free today.


11 posted on 08/15/2009 7:56:13 PM PDT by meatloaf (Obama, Obozo ... what's the difference?)
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To: 12Gauge687
Good job, 12gauge!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
12 posted on 08/15/2009 7:56:24 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: 12Gauge687

Very nice on your part.

I think LBJ’s major interest was line his pockets with his fence company, his part ownersship in KBR that did all the construction and TX defense companies.

Nixon and Gen. Creighton Abrams almost turn the tide except the scum left with connections to the Viet Cong in Canada sabatoged the effort. That scum included Kerry, Teddy Kennedy, Jane Fonda, Cronkite and other vermin.

Vietnam was JFK/LBJ’s war but our guys were out to win and so was Nixon.

LBJ left office the second wealthiest President in history. H Washington was a billionaire adjusted for inflation. Nixon was broke when he left office. He never made nickel off the war.


13 posted on 08/15/2009 7:59:21 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Please feel free to do so. :-)


14 posted on 08/15/2009 8:00:53 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters
"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media were definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"
-often attributed to General Giap, North Vietnam
15 posted on 08/15/2009 8:14:04 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

dead on the money LVR. I saw a history channel(?) program not to long ago with quite a few interviews/discussions with some of those brave pilots that made it back and what they described regarding quite a few of their orders and what they were allowed, (and not allowed) to do was nothing short of complete insanity imho. It made me furious to listen to what those men went thru, talk about your hands being tied is right. sure there were concerns of the USSR and escalation fears involved but DAMN...........your father has my thanks for his service those many years ago.


16 posted on 08/15/2009 8:17:47 PM PDT by bobby.223
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In the same vein, I'd recommend Lewis Sorley's A Better War. It chronicles the war as conducted by the late Gen. Creighton Abrams, and documents its best-kept secret: we won. By 1973 we had utterly destroyed the Vietcong, and had neutralized the NVA's ability to conduct offensive warfare. On top of our battlefield success, Nixon's '72 Linebacker raids caused deep damage to the communist regime leaving Hanoi "on the ropes". Thus, the '73 accords.

The loss of Vietnam came only later, after we had essentially left the field and ceased to support the RVN logistically. Given that support, it's entirely possible that the RVN might still exist. If only Watergate hadn't happened...

17 posted on 08/15/2009 8:19:59 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: smoothsailing

How many died because the media were helping them and the idiots in DC were preventing our military from getting the job done? UGH!


18 posted on 08/15/2009 8:22:18 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: B-Chan

Always remember who was responsible that monumental betrayal of our soldiers and our allies, one of the worst in human history: the media-industrial complex and its political arm, the Democrat Party.

Never forget, never forgive.


19 posted on 08/15/2009 8:25:54 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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Thanks for your kind words about my dad. Just before my dad got to Vietnam, they calculated that a Thud pilot had zero chance of completing his 100 missions and going home. The odds got better and my dad beat the odds. Unbelievable what they were up against. And they knew about the fears of escalation with USSR and China before they committed our military. Absolute BS and we need to make sure it never happens again.
20 posted on 08/15/2009 8:30:27 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic
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