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President Shifts Focus To Renting, Not Owning Home
Boston Globe ^ | 8-16-09 | Joseph Williams

Posted on 08/16/2009 9:01:49 AM PDT by joinedafterattack

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To: Lexinom
Are they going to pay the high taxes?

Ha, ha, ha, ha, snork, LOL, ... stop it, you're killing me!!

141 posted on 08/16/2009 7:44:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: DoorGunner
This makes me think of the scene in Doctor Zhivago, where Zhivago returns to find that his home has been occupied by the proletariat and run as their little commune.

Mugabe's "veterans" took farms. Obama's "veterans" will take foreclosed FHA homes.

142 posted on 08/16/2009 9:16:06 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (1st Amendment or the 2nd .... let them choose.)
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To: joinedafterattack; Clemenza; Lancey Howard; All
the approach takes a wrecking ball to Bush’s heavy emphasis on encouraging homeownership as a way to create national wealth and provide upward mobility for low- and working-class families.... the Obama White House has acknowledged that not everyone can or should own a home.... “I’ve always said the American dream should be a home - not homeownership,’’ said Representative Barney Frank

This article is not very specific, but it sounds as if the Obama administration may be abandoning HUD's Homeownership Vouchers program. Or am I dreaming? Am I way off-base here?

The Homeownership Vouchers program is a pet peeve of mine. It's a program started by Clinton at the end of his presidency and then continued by President Bush. So, the idea of subsidizing mortgages is nothing new; it was happening under a Republican president for eight years.

If the Obama administration is dropping it, that's good news. Under this program, families who qualify can "buy" a home using mortgage subsidies. If they happen to be the sort of people who terrorize your neighborhood, you can complain and complain but never have them removed. That house is considered theirs, no matter what. Believe me, my parents had experience with a "family" who moved next door under this program. I tried everything including reporting them to the local housing authority to have them removed. The gov't agents there merely laughed and said, "That's their home now." Yes, it's their home on our dollar.

Yes, the gov't should not be in the housing business, and the Obama administration together with the Democrats are destroying our nation. But, if they are going to subsidize housing, I'd rather they were subsidizing rent instead of mortgages, even though I know the projects are bad news, too.

143 posted on 08/16/2009 9:28:32 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: muawiyah
They used to.

Until a week or two ago. Living in gov housing will still carry with it gov control of the tenants.

144 posted on 08/17/2009 5:37:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: Centurion2000
Mugabe's "veterans" took farms. Obama's "veterans" will take foreclosed FHA homes.

That is the plan. You will have Obama's favored people living in your sub-division and paying rock bottom rents.

145 posted on 08/17/2009 5:40:13 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: TigersEye
Voucher Program in 1983 ~ Ronald Reagan's premiere public housing option ~ this allowed public housing qualified recipients to find places to rent.

The Democrats are returning to this idea as they clear their minds of the idea that building highrise slums is a good one.

146 posted on 08/17/2009 5:54:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

It’s a bad idea no matter who came up with it. My point stands though; tenants of gov housing will be subject to whatever rules the gov makes.


147 posted on 08/17/2009 6:24:26 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
Tenants of any sort of housing (or other property) will always be subject to the rules set forth in the rental contracts.

Our courts enforce private contracts. In some countries you have to arrange for your own enforcement.

So, the point about being subject to rules is what?

148 posted on 08/17/2009 6:27:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 4rcane

Tell that to my parents, who are currently in the process of buying a 32 unit apartment complex. They are getting a great deal on a foreclosure property that is actually halfway decent and has a high occupancy rate. The last thing they want is their mid-six figure investment going down the tubes with government money and government tenants.

So my folks are taking a huge leap and risk with their money and you say it’s a better thing? No, it’s not. The government needs to get their fat fingers off of the housing market—it’s their fault we’re in the mess we’re in to begin with.


149 posted on 08/17/2009 6:34:52 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: ArchAngel1983
Wahoo, return of The Projects; D-Y-N-O-M-I-T-E!!

"We're movin' on DOWN!

150 posted on 08/17/2009 6:39:25 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: muawiyah

That the government can set far more draconian rules than a private sector landlord and there is no redress for that. As in my previous example, which stands regardless of recent legislation, the government can abrogate Constitutionally protected rights. You can take a citizen landlord to court for that. Try suing the FedGov.


151 posted on 08/17/2009 6:41:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
Your argument was about rentals. Now you want to get into what happens in court.

Here's the way it works, urban areas have been setting aside funds or places for the use of the poor as housing since the dawning of civilization.

The purpose is to get the poor off the streets to make it possible for citizens to get about and do business.

Subsidizing the poor (mostly the "elderly poor") to live in existing surplus housing seems like a very good way to achieve the primary purpose ~ the clearing of the streets for the productive sector of society.

Short of just killing the poor do you have a different approach perhaps?

152 posted on 08/17/2009 6:49:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; rabscuttle385
How about getting the government out of approving subdividing property

Yes. Though I have no property to subdivide if I did I'd want to be free to subdivide it however I wish.

153 posted on 08/17/2009 6:54:37 AM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: muawiyah

Lower taxation so charity can flourish.


154 posted on 08/17/2009 6:57:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: muawiyah
Your argument was about rentals.

No it wasn't. It was about gov control over the lives of gov tenants. Try to keep up.

155 posted on 08/17/2009 6:58:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
My point stands though; tenants of gov housing will be subject to whatever rules the gov makes.

Exactly. If you take the King's coin, you do the King's bidding.

156 posted on 08/17/2009 7:01:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: joinedafterattack

YAHOO SEARCH———> Allison S. Davis Senator Obama operation board games for slumlords


157 posted on 08/17/2009 7:05:16 AM PDT by Curious George1978
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To: joinedafterattack
Low rise subsidized apartments, huh? Like these in the former Soviet Union?


158 posted on 08/17/2009 7:05:24 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I'm not a useless eater, I pay taxes to support them.)
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To: CholeraJoe

Like the ones in Chicago...”operation board games for slumlords” that Obama was a backer of!


159 posted on 08/17/2009 7:08:28 AM PDT by Curious George1978
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To: TigersEye

And, your point is?


160 posted on 08/17/2009 7:13:08 AM PDT by muawiyah
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