Posted on 08/16/2009 11:50:08 AM PDT by TheWriterTX
Sarah sure hit a nerve. I love this woman. She doesn’t back down from punching right at the solar plexus of the democrats.
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This isn’t a shocker. Once killing someone becomes an acceptable “treatment” for any illness it is only natural for whoever pays for care on behalf of another to insist on it as a “final solution” to the costs of health care.
All this from an idiotic right wing conservative hellbent on forcing her values down our throats. </sarcasm>
For an idiot, she does seem to be able to say one thing and get every liberal in the world on the run.
3. Group Three consists of children who may not require technology for life, but who may experience substantial pain and suffering, or for whom there is no possibility of a cure.
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So where do you draw the line for illnesses such as juvenile rheumatoid arthritis? What is the definition for substantial?
We must produce a master race. Where have I heard that one before? Hmmmm....must be my imagination. If they can do this with a new born, they can do it with you, your brothers and sisters, your parents and grand parents, your Aunts and Uncles, Nephews, Nieces, and the list goes on and on. I would start questioning the type of people that even put this in the Bill to begin with. These are not the type of people we want in our Government.
deth panel pinger
“If they can do this with a new born, they can do it with you, your brothers and sisters, your parents and grand parents, your Aunts and Uncles, Nephews, Nieces, and the list goes on and on. I would start questioning the type of people that even put this in the Bill to begin with. These are not the type of people we want in our Government.”
Before this kind of thing can be implemented don’t you think they will have to cull the ranks of caregivers and doctors that will refuse to lock step with this program!?
You know, Ethical, moral, caring, people with half a brain and some personal integrity!??
It's time to abort mr. singer too...
My wife is a NICU Clinical Nurse Specialist. Considering the cases she talks about, none of these questions are easy, as a futile treatment often ends up being effectively an act of cruelty, and to that outcome some heed should be given. For people to treat this like these are simple issues is ingenuous at best. We do need better time-sensitive decision making architectures. What we don’t need is government making them.
To anyone who watched obama in Grand Junction last night: did you hear him slip in a positive comment about the Netherlands healthcare system? (I think it was in the middle of one of his rambling answers)
I don’t think I imagined it!
It’s very difficult to listen to his meandering- he’s all over the place.
“Considering the cases she talks about, none of these questions are easy, as a futile treatment often ends up being effectively an act of cruelty, and to that outcome some heed should be given”
I worked as a NICU nurse for a bit, I wasn’t cut out for it because of exactly what you mention. Your wife is very special. I admire her strength.
And you’re right - we don’t need the government making these decisions.
For those of you without a medical back ground.. Neuromuscular blockade is a drug that prevents the neurotransmitter from initiating a muscular movement.
It is typically used during surgery and on patients that are intubated and being ventilated.
The particular evil in this little procedure is that you may be totally conscious but unable to move.
With intubated patients you always use blockade with some sort of sedation because it is horror itself to be awake, alert and unable to move or blink.
Imagine they are giving blockade to these children to prevent their movement under the presence of a peaceful death while the infant is aware that they are suffocating.
It would be kinder and more honest to hold a pillow over their faces.
This is straight out of hell.
Spinal Bifida is a spinal cord defect.. It comes in degree..Mild to severe.
Mentation is usually completely normal and they usually have higher functioning bodies than Stephen Hawkings.
Professor of anti-Bioethics
That's NOTHING in terms of the total cost of medical care nationwide. It's a false ethical question because the number of children in such dire condition is really very small.
My brother had down's syndrome. He only died because he had leukemia and it was uncurable at the time (1960).In these modern times I ear he would have been euthanized. I really, really don't like where society is headed.
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