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Alinsky, Beck, Satan and Me
NewsReal Blog ^ | August 16, 2009 | David Horowitz

Posted on 08/16/2009 12:10:55 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative

Glenn Beck will be on vacation this week but when he returns on the 24th he has invited me to come to New York to talk to him on camera about Saul Alinsky, the strategy guru of the Obama era. For the the Hillary-Soros generation of johnny-come-lately radicals and their ACORN footsoldiers Alinksy is their Sun-Tzu and his book Rules for Radicals is the field manual for their struggle. I thought while I’m refreshing my acquaintance with this destructive fellow and re-reading his text, I would share my thoughts with you, serially over the next week.

For this first post, let’s just focus on the dedication of the book — to Satan:

“Lest we forget, an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical:” (Pause there for second. Now continue): “from all our legends, mythology, and history(and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”

(Excerpt) Read more at newsrealblog.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: alinsky; ayers; beck; communists; communityorganizer; glennbeck; horowitz; lucifer; obama; progressives; radicals; reddiaperdoperbabies; rulesforradicals; satan; theleft
Horowitz has a must-read post today.
1 posted on 08/16/2009 12:10:55 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative

The one thing the radicals want, is destroy America.

Hard to believe, but true.
2 posted on 08/16/2009 12:16:32 PM PDT by Tarpon (The Joker's plan -- Slavery by debt so large it can never be repaid...)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

The links to great articles like this are one of the best reasons to cruise this forum. Wow!


3 posted on 08/16/2009 12:18:09 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: HorowitzianConservative
David Horowitz carries enough weight that his utterances belong not in "blogs and personal" but in "news"...

IMHO

4 posted on 08/16/2009 12:19:27 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Wherever politics tries...to do the work of God, it becomes...demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: screaminsunshine

Ping!


5 posted on 08/16/2009 12:19:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Free expression of religion is one of our Unalienable, Natural Rights)
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To: Tarpon

Makes perfect sense if one is utterly certain that America is the sole source of all the world’s evil.


6 posted on 08/16/2009 12:19:52 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 207 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Tarpon
Here is the "money quote" for Horowitz:

"Conservatives are altogether too decent, too civilized to match up adequately, at least in the initital stages of the battle, with their adversaries. They are too prone to give them the benefit of the doubt."

7 posted on 08/16/2009 12:20:43 PM PDT by BwanaNdege
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Passionate and beautifully written, with his trademark tragic undertone. My hero.


8 posted on 08/16/2009 12:21:02 PM PDT by Mamzelle (bring your cameras to all political gatherings--video if you can)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Thanks David.


9 posted on 08/16/2009 12:26:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Thanks very much for posting. HOORAY David Horowitz! HOORAY Glenn Beck!


10 posted on 08/16/2009 12:29:20 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: HorowitzianConservative

(Photo courtesy freeper rlmorel)
11 posted on 08/16/2009 12:30:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: HorowitzianConservative
[Conservatives] assume that radicals can’t really want to destroy a society that is democratic and liberal and has brought wealth and prosperity to so many. Oh yes they can.

We should never underestimate their perverse hatred of all that is good.

12 posted on 08/16/2009 12:30:18 PM PDT by livius
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To: HorowitzianConservative

“Alinksy is their Sun-Tzu...”

I stole a copy of Rules For Radicals and placed it next to my pocket edition of Sun-Tzu on the bookshelf. I was gratified when I heard that GB did the same thing...


13 posted on 08/16/2009 12:36:55 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Admin Moderator; HorowitzianConservative

Admin moderator...would you be so kind as to put this wonderful article by David Horowitz in “news” where it belong and wherein it will receive the widest readership.


14 posted on 08/16/2009 12:39:00 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Wherever politics tries...to do the work of God, it becomes...demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Saul Alinsky quoting Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky

“They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution.”

this is the guiding light of modern democrats, IMHO


15 posted on 08/16/2009 12:45:49 PM PDT by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
We are at War with Obama.

Alinsky back at em'!

16 posted on 08/16/2009 12:46:56 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Deep behind enemy lines in Santa Barbara CA a young Freedom Lover named Justin Tevis is running for Santa Barbara City Council. He really sticks it to ACORN at a Freedom Rally last Thursday.

Justin Tevis Gets Radical Back in front of Lois Capps office

17 posted on 08/16/2009 12:50:26 PM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

We were initially posting our NewsReal blogs in News but were instructed to post them in blogs.


18 posted on 08/16/2009 12:55:35 PM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Technically that would be correct...but David definitely belongs in News.

As you probably know, he is held in high regard around here.

19 posted on 08/16/2009 12:58:03 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies ("Wherever politics tries...to do the work of God, it becomes...demonic." — Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

A must read for any person who wants to save America.


20 posted on 08/16/2009 1:00:10 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
"Conservatives are altogether too decent, too civilized to match up adequately, at least in the initital stages of the battle, with their adversaries. They are too prone to give them the benefit of the doubt."

Yes, at least in the initial stages of battle. When Clinton was president, I bit my tongue countless times, but remained respectful of him for the most part. But after 8 years of the incessant verbal evisceration of President Bush I sore that I would internalize the lessons I learned from the left and hate whoever their next president would be, regardless. For all the reasons I hate Obama, perhaps the best reason I can come up with is that I hate him for hate’s sake. I’m not proud of it; it’s not logical and not even right, but it is who I am now.

21 posted on 08/16/2009 1:06:50 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: jyro

I think only naive useful idiots on the Left believe that socialism will bring heaven on earth. The leaders of the Left are mainly interested in using socialist rhetoric and myth-making to justify amassing power and wealth for themselves. In other words, to make themselves the Haves. This strategy has largely succeeded, because the leaders of the Demonrat Party and its auxiliaries are mostly very wealthy nowadays, as are all other socialist dictators: Dear Leader in DPRK, Mugabe, Chavez, the mullahs of Iran, etc. etc.


22 posted on 08/16/2009 1:25:17 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: livius
"We should never underestimate their perverse hatred of all that is good.

Thus my tagline...

23 posted on 08/16/2009 1:35:11 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Horowitz must be listened to, he knows what he’s talking having been one of them.


24 posted on 08/16/2009 1:36:27 PM PDT by fullchroma (flag@whitehouse.gov: come and get me.)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

great stuff


25 posted on 08/16/2009 1:55:43 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: Pride_of_the_Bluegrass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=021drUxrzEw

Yes We Can / Thank You Satan


26 posted on 08/16/2009 2:03:13 PM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
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To: HorowitzianConservative

bflr


27 posted on 08/16/2009 2:18:09 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (It appears we DON'T wish to keep our Republic, Mr. Franklin!!!)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Horowitz has pinpointed reasons why the term "conservative" may not be the best description for what we are seeing in the Town Halls and TEA groups today. These citizens who "sniff" (see Burke below)tyranny in the wind are more like the revolutionary generation which gave us the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. So many politicians have called themselves "conservative" and have done anything but "conserve" the Founding Ideas that they have sullied the word.

Those who engage today must elevate the debate to the point where the media cannot distort it as being just "ignorance" (as Katie Couric claimed yesterday). The Gibbs and Axelrod talking points cannot trump the forcefulness and truth of the words of America's Founders on liberty vs. tyranny.

Edmund Burke, before the British Parliament way back in March 1775, observed the colonists' fierce "spirit of liberty." He said:

"In other countries the people . . . judge of an ill principle in government only by an actual grievance; here they anticipate the evil and judge of the pressure of the grievance by the badness of the principle." He said Americans could detect "misgovernment at a distance and sniff the approach of tyranny in every tainted breeze."

James Madison put it this way, "The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much, soo to forget it."

Any Republicans or Democrats who "compromise" for the sake of popularity now on this important principle involving future generations should be recalled at the next election cycle!

This is not about a frivolous question of which provisions are acceptable and which are unacceptable. This is about a power struggle between the principles the founding generation were willing to stake their "lives, property, and sacred honor" for, and those who, throughout the history of civilization have arrogated unto themselves power over other people's lives.

The current "issue" called "health care reform," or its equally obnoxious semantic twin "health insurance reform," is just the invasion of liberty by arrogant elected officials which has finally aroused citizens who, heretofore, ignored the decades-long power grab by those who were supposed to protect "We, the People's" constitutional principles.

Now, citizens are seeing that it is a matter of "principle," not an issue of semantics over wording.

They should not allow their elected representatives to be coopted by "blue dogs" or any other "wolf in sheep's clothing" that would allow what may turn out to be the most important watershed moment in the history of American liberty to be further threatened. Now, Conrad and Sebelius, and others, sensing the voter mood are throwing out "compromise" talk this weekend, all to punt for better position down the road. Seize the moment for the sake of posterity and just say, "no"!

A word from the author of our Declaration of Independence regarding citizens and oppressive government might give some backbone to today's citizens:

"The most effectual means of preventing the perversion of power into tyranny are to illuminate . . . the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts which history exhibits, that they may. . . know ambition under all its shapes, and . . . exert their natural power to defeat its purposes." - Thomas Jefferson

And, for more wisdom from the same source:

" . . . this is a tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second, that second for a third, and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sin and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers. . . have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the forehorse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follws that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."- Thomas Jefferson

If 21st Century Town Hallers can stop this mad rush to coercive government power, future generations may call them "the second founding generation."

28 posted on 08/16/2009 2:19:57 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Mamzelle

“Conservatives are altogether too decent, too civilized to match up adequately, at least in the initital stages of the battle, with their adversaries. They are too prone to give them the benefit of the doubt.”

Not the first time that proposition has been aired here, but it can’t be repeated too many times.


29 posted on 08/16/2009 2:32:32 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
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To: Tarpon

It is so obvious the “liberals” are Marxists, yet it is so politically incorrect to say that and explain how deadly Marxism is to freedom and wealth.

Beck has managed to skirt this usual “McCarthism” charge because Liberals don’t want to debate his facts. All they have to say is that he’s an evil racist for talking about liberalism’s fascism and commnist sympathies, agenda and roots.

This is “progress” of the constitutional sort. We have Glenn to thank for breaking the back of “McCarthy” chicken littles right on tee veee. They only have that worn out, pitiful race card to play in the hope of protecting the “dear leader” from exposure.

Thanks Glenn. Keep up the good work.


30 posted on 08/16/2009 2:48:24 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: HorowitzianConservative
For the most part, Horowitz and Beck, Savage, Levin and others are telling it like it is and quite honestly, it scares the hell out of me.

I reluctantly came to the conclusion some years ago that most can't, don't or refuse to see what is happening and have the honorary tin foil hat to show for it. One is crazy to even think such things, right?

Perhaps, but though there once was something of a balance of political power and shared core political values, the left now has nearly absolute power and they do not seem to be restrained by any decent, legal or civilized constraints. They do not want what the Constitution so eloquently lays out.

History and a quick look around at other countries shows what is coming, even as we foolishly believe it can't happen to us. Fortunately, there are a few modern Paul Reveres telling us that it is happening. May obama's, Reid's and Pelosi's actions soon wake us from our collective denial, before we all burn in the coming Reichtag fire.

31 posted on 08/16/2009 6:01:52 PM PDT by GBA
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To: HorowitzianConservative

One of the most brilliant pieces I have read in a very long time.


32 posted on 08/16/2009 9:55:32 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: HorowitzianConservative

btt


33 posted on 08/16/2009 10:58:54 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: HorowitzianConservative

btt


34 posted on 08/16/2009 10:59:09 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: HorowitzianConservative

The devil you say.


35 posted on 08/17/2009 12:18:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (When did it become the Democrat You-Shut-Up-And-Listen-To-Me Tour?)
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To: ArchAngel1983

How about because he’s a horrid sham.


36 posted on 08/17/2009 12:24:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (When did it become the Democrat You-Shut-Up-And-Listen-To-Me Tour?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; HorowitzianConservative; null and void; Lancey Howard; potlatch; devolve; ...

37 posted on 08/17/2009 12:33:59 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: jyro
Ah, but libtards don't realize how dangerous it is for them to progressively make us conservatives feel "lost, hopeless, disenfranchised". Why do they think ammo has been flying off the shelves for 6 months with no sign of letting up? Who do they think this is for, squirrels? They are playing with fire and think they can control it but once they think they are in control then WE are the radicals and we can destroy what they are building just as they are trying to destroy what we have built. They can't win but do they want "scorched earth"?

Μολὼν λάβε


38 posted on 08/17/2009 12:35:17 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: PhilDragoo

Everything that is excessive is ridiculous! (From the French: Tout ce qui est excessif est dérisoire)

Let’s keep the criticism sharp, but not monstruous. Obama is neither bin Laden, nor Lucifer, but just a less than average guy, picked up by his puppeters to fill an empty suit in the Oval Office. Without his manipulators, he would have been a small bureaucrat in a small cubicle, shuffling papers around.


39 posted on 08/17/2009 12:53:46 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

A perfect little essay.


40 posted on 08/17/2009 1:10:31 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

bttt


41 posted on 08/17/2009 1:19:17 AM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: HorowitzianConservative; Jeff Head; AnnaZ; doug from upland; Lazamataz

Horowitzian, Bump


42 posted on 08/17/2009 3:44:33 AM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only time we will be able to Glorify God, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: loveliberty2
Your post 28 is truly awesome. Thank you.
43 posted on 08/17/2009 4:02:47 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: HorowitzianConservative; Cvengr; TheThinker; eclecticEel; brityank; MarkL; woofie; Billthedrill; ...

Horowitzian bump 2


44 posted on 08/17/2009 4:14:05 AM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only time we will be able to Glorify God, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: PhilDragoo; HiTech RedNeck; HorowitzianConservative; null and void; Lancey Howard; potlatch; ...
For the the Hillary-Soros generation of johnny-come-lately radicals and their ACORN footsoldiers ...

Unlike Kerry, Obama Covets Soros' Support (7-28-2004 Article)

45 posted on 08/17/2009 5:35:33 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: Marguerite

From your post in #39 ...

** Obama is neither bin Laden, nor Lucifer, but just a less than average guy, picked up by his puppeters to fill an empty suit in the Oval Office. Without his manipulators, he would have been a small bureaucrat in a small cubicle, shuffling papers around. **

39 posted on 08/17/2009 12:53:46 AM PDT by Marguerite

- - - - -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2317403/posts?page=45#45

See my post #45 ...


46 posted on 08/17/2009 5:41:02 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

A brilliant piece, undoubtedly.

It would be even better if Horowitz hadn’t himself spent the last decade practicing the exact same tactics when it suits his agenda and fancy.


47 posted on 08/17/2009 3:47:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Free Republic blazed the trail in the creation of the citizen-controlled pro-American media.)
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To: Tarpon
The radicals want to destroy the American system. They wish to take her industries and enslaver her people.

The radicals want wealth and power because they are so envious and greedy.

The combination of a constitutional republic and democratic elections is too stable and powerful to bring down from the outside and it shares power and wealth too well to really inspire a direct rebellion from within.

So they are employing subterfuge and trickery to accomplish their goals and the media plays right along. Without the media none of what has come to pass would have been possible.

48 posted on 08/17/2009 8:14:39 PM PDT by TheThinker
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