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Dems abandoning leadership advice
The Hill ^ | 08/16/09 01:30 PM [ET] | Jared Allen

Posted on 08/16/2009 12:38:41 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Dems abandoning leadership advice By Jared Allen Posted: 08/16/09 01:30 PM [ET] An August in which Democrats were supposed to return home to sell the merits of a universal healthcare plan has turned into one where members are publicly fending for themselves.

Some have even shunned the talking points and tactics their leaders encouraged them to use to gin up support for the Democratic healthcare bill as they’ve engaged with sometimes hostile constituents.

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.) recently lashed out at Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) recommended talking points aimed at the insurance industry, and criticized her approach in a letter to a local private insurance company, according to the Louisville Courier Journal.

“Regrettably, with passions inflamed throughout the country, Speaker Pelosi recently made inflammatory statements that assailed the character of health insurers across the board. I unequivocally reject those misguided comments,” Yarmouth wrote to the CEO of Louisville-based Humana, the paper reported this week.

Democrats unveiled a line of attack against the private insurance industry after the House failed to move a healthcare bill before August recess, an attack President Barack Obama has taken up in recent days. Pelosi called insurers the “villains” of the healthcare reform debate.

Even Democrats who are not part of the central leadership team were confident that attacking the insurance industry would play well, even in districts where members were due to face a backlash against “socialized medicine.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 111th; bho44; insuranceindustry; pelosi
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The protests worked!
1 posted on 08/16/2009 12:38:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Actual taxpayers in the streets with signs...Shock and Awe!


2 posted on 08/16/2009 12:43:07 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

They’re cracking up. Next thing that will happen is the house Dems exploding over no ‘public option’.

By the time we’re finished, we’ll have killed the whole thing from the sidelines. Then, we can sit back and watch them destroy each other over it.

This thing was doomed the moment they failed to pass it before recess.

The good thing is that even if they don’t pass it, they’re still going to get blamed for it. The things that have been brought up in this bill are so repugnant that there will be blowback to all who tried to advocate for it, whether they ended up against it or not.


3 posted on 08/16/2009 12:44:45 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Just what Mr. Obama needed: The furthest left Speaker in the House and Majority Leader in the Senate, in the history of the United States. If the GOP can’t take back both houses of Congress in 2010, it’s their own damned fault!!


4 posted on 08/16/2009 12:45:30 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: screaminsunshine
Actual taxpayers and votersin the streets with signs...Shock and Awe! Sorry, just had to add what I think is sinking in for Democrats. If they lose control on Congress in 2010, they lose their entire world.
5 posted on 08/16/2009 12:45:39 PM PDT by Lou L
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To: Sub-Driver

Too late. Pink Slips for everybody. Buh bye.


6 posted on 08/16/2009 12:45:47 PM PDT by Miss Behave (AKA "Noogie." I dispense 'em. Hertz Doughnut?)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is really quite enjoyable.

The liberals who voted for him are now turning on The Kenyan and raging against his policies.

The house dems are turning on Pelosi.

Hillary is halfway on her way to the mental hospital after being dumped by Huma.

Life is good...


7 posted on 08/16/2009 12:47:13 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Sub-Driver
Dems abandoning leadership

Good article! what, there's more?

8 posted on 08/16/2009 12:47:53 PM PDT by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: jimbo123

I missed the story on Huma. Can you fill me in on what happened? I was wondering the other day what had become of her, having not heard about her for while. But I had no idea there was a Dumping. Where can we find out about it?


9 posted on 08/16/2009 12:49:21 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Sub-Driver

It’s a good start; plenty more work to be done.


10 posted on 08/16/2009 12:49:24 PM PDT by Think free or die (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M.Thatcher)
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To: jimbo123

Never mind, I googled and found the engagement announcement.


11 posted on 08/16/2009 12:51:37 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.
I missed the story on Huma. Can you fill me in on what happened?

She went back to being straight once Hillary crashed and burned.

12 posted on 08/16/2009 12:51:45 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: jimbo123

“This is really quite enjoyable.”

Yeah, this is fun stuff. Hopefully conservatives don’t take their foot off the gas and ride this wave all the way into the midterms.

I do google searches for Arlen Spectre vids at Townhalls in the evenings just before bed and my wife says that I go to sleep with the stupidest smile on my face.


13 posted on 08/16/2009 12:52:45 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("No road is too long with good company" - Turkish Proverb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Sub-Driver; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; devolve

14 posted on 08/16/2009 12:54:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Houghton M.
I missed the story on Huma. Can you fill me in on what happened?

She got tired of having tuna fish for dinner every night.
15 posted on 08/16/2009 12:54:36 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Sub-Driver
They must follow ussssss.....

Pelosi's relationship with the CIA - they lies to ussss... we hates them...


16 posted on 08/16/2009 12:56:14 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: Sub-Driver

At some point Pelosi will be shown the door.


17 posted on 08/16/2009 12:59:25 PM PDT by lucias_clay (I got feathers whose got tar ?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Aussie Senate just voted down Climate Change participation....this must be stopped here also in addition to the Healthcare Bill. For now, NOTHING should be done about Healthcare that does not foster FREE ENTERPRISE priority in dealing with the problems our GOVT has created. None of Obamas agenda is any good. Republicans, EPA should pay attention to Australia also and the new data on GLOBAL COOLING.

Republican party has compromised so much with the left, that it is well to the left also and must be moved to more historically traditionalist roles if the country is to move away from fatal fragmentation. The Dems fail intentionally in fostering unity, and the Republicans are divided on what kind of unity they want. It would be best if the same awakened public on the Healthcare issue guide the parties back to sanity. The awakened public now HAS THE INITIATIVE...will they recognize the FACT and continue on?


18 posted on 08/16/2009 1:02:08 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan Meet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: jimbo123

wonder if Hillary has even thought of why she got put out in Africa in the first place.

It seems bozo is doing all he can to keep her out of the picture.

Actually why was she over there and what was she trying to accomplish?


19 posted on 08/16/2009 1:03:03 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman -- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Sub-Driver
You Shall Not Pass!
20 posted on 08/16/2009 1:03:25 PM PDT by Noumenon (Work that AQT - turn ammunition into skill. No tyrant can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It ain’t over yet.

This was just the opening salvo.

As Patton said, now we’ll kick’em in the Ass.


21 posted on 08/16/2009 1:06:54 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Sub-Driver
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22 posted on 08/16/2009 1:09:37 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Sub-Driver
...has turned into one where members are publicly fending for themselves.

The 'rats are leaving the sinking ship. obama's healthcare reform (snort) is going down fast. People have woken up to the idea that it really doesn't improve healthcare in any way, nor reduce costs. Quite the opposite, it will make healthcare services harder to get, lower quality, and more expensive. I trifecta of failure. What obama's plan is really about is socialist nationalization of the healthcare system; bigger government; access to our private banking and health records; and more government control over our lives and shrinking liberties.

While obama has hurt America, and will no-doubt do more damage before he is thrown out of office (where's the birth certificate obama?) long-term he may be good for America. That which does not kill us makes us stronger. After obama, it will be a long long time (generation or so) before America elects anyone nearly as socialist as obama. By the 2010 elections, "socialist" will be a hot-button word. No-one will want to do or say anything that could be construed as socialist. They are going down in flames.

23 posted on 08/16/2009 1:11:26 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Be very cautious. They are going to push government co-ops.

Rememeber they change the wording to get the same result.

The whole idea needs to go back to the drawing board to prevent any government takeover.


24 posted on 08/16/2009 1:11:32 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dems....PLEASE....LISTEN to QUEEN NANCY!!! You need to go down with the ship!!!!! Call us Nazis....call us Un-Civilized...call us Rude for yelling at you Effete Elites!! You are showing your true colors!!


25 posted on 08/16/2009 1:12:20 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.....there are PURISTS here on FR that will NOT vote for anyone who sniffs one time like a RINO!! PURITY is what they demand, so we all end up with Communists....Facists....Socialists who ARE pure in their EVIL!


26 posted on 08/16/2009 1:14:23 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Left wing publications like the Hill are panicked! As they see it, their democrat buddies are doing dumb stuff and from the NY Times to the WaPo to the Hill, tips are being passed out free-of-charge to any political hack willing to take them. Well you can’t blame media types. After all, they work 24/7 getting dems elected and then the dumb politicians get all bent out of shape just because a few of the mouth-breathing members of the serf class start asking questions! “Just shut up, do what Pelosi says and let us shill for you!” Yep, one can hear that advice going out from the MSM nationwide!


27 posted on 08/16/2009 1:14:47 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Sub-Driver

We know who the villains are.


28 posted on 08/16/2009 1:14:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ummm, the big national insurers are already fully prepared to clean up on big Federal contracts and the horrid confusion and inefficiency that will result from upending healthcare.

Medicare is already one of the most profitable lines of coverage for many companies. This plan goes a great deal farther than Medicare, and the profits will be beyond imagining.


29 posted on 08/16/2009 1:17:10 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("How's that 'hopey, changy' thing work'in out fer ya?")
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To: Ann Archy

Killing granny images is Obama’s Waterloo!


30 posted on 08/16/2009 1:19:46 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: jimbo123

I am ready to ride them all out on a rail if they vote for this monstrosity...

Like the guy from the Oh Brother movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIKz1phnuCc

I think average American people are with me on this one.


31 posted on 08/16/2009 1:41:15 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Very astute observation. Both the Progressive Caucus and the Black Caucus have drawn a line in the sand, saying that they will vote no without a public option. And both groups are far too nuts to back down from that. Instead I expect more attacks on their savior like the HuffPo leak about the pharma deal. This will be fun to watch!


32 posted on 08/16/2009 1:43:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jimbo123

Hillary got dumped by Huma? That explains her more recent pathology.


33 posted on 08/16/2009 1:46:50 PM PDT by Miss Behave (AKA "Noogie." I dispense 'em. Hertz Doughnut?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Grassley and Shelby are already set to compromise for co-ops. Every time the Conservatives compromise the next year the Dems are back for more and we move slowly one more step to the left. Time to put the foot down and keep it there. IF the Dems want to own this let them but please don’t give them a win after all the work we have done to awaken the silent majority!


34 posted on 08/16/2009 1:46:57 PM PDT by georgiarat (The new KKK - Kos Koolaid Kids)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

They never had the “health” of the nation in mind with this ridiculous bill. It was a method of control, a tyranny in the guise of supposed health coverage for all.


35 posted on 08/16/2009 1:50:16 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Health "care" - by the same folks who run Amtrak and the post office)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’ll bet this will be the last time The Kenyan lets Harry and Nancy do his dirty work. ka-BOOM!


36 posted on 08/16/2009 1:51:32 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Seems fishy")
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To: indylindy

Yes, it’s time to be confident, and cautious.

Our main problem now are the RINO’s, as they will sign on to the watered down version of HC.

I think it’s time to have some shouting at their town hall meetings.


37 posted on 08/16/2009 1:53:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: freekitty

Yep, freekitty. As tough Mr. Momjeans has told dim congresscritters who have thought of going against him: “We’re KEEPING SCORE.”


38 posted on 08/16/2009 1:54:49 PM PDT by Miss Behave (AKA "Noogie." I dispense 'em. Hertz Doughnut?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

These will be co-ops with government money involved. It is just a back door approach to the same thing.

I agree. RINOS will be the problem.


39 posted on 08/16/2009 1:56:51 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Sub-Driver
They did and it started here. What kind of an empty vessel would be lead around by the likes of zer0, reid, or pelosi?

Only the Borg. Democrats are naive morons as a bunch

40 posted on 08/16/2009 1:57:08 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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To: Miss Behave

We are keeping score too.


41 posted on 08/16/2009 1:57:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: lucias_clay
At some point Pelosi will be shown the door.

And she will try walking out the window because the botox has poisoned her brain.

42 posted on 08/16/2009 2:01:11 PM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Terrific!


43 posted on 08/16/2009 2:07:49 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

plus the videos of representative attacking the voters and calling them names ect. will make splendid campaign commercials.


44 posted on 08/16/2009 2:08:08 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

bttt


45 posted on 08/16/2009 2:08:44 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Houghton M.

I missed the story on Huma. Can you fill me in on what happened? I was wondering the other day what had become of her, having not heard about her for while. But I had no idea there was a Dumping. Where can we find out about it?
___________________________

She’s marrying CongressCritter Anthony Weiner ....so the story goes


46 posted on 08/16/2009 2:09:55 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: jimbo123
Hillary is halfway on her way to the mental hospital after being dumped by Huma.


47 posted on 08/16/2009 2:10:36 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: HIDEK6

Seriously, do ya’ll really think Hillary is a lesbian?


48 posted on 08/16/2009 2:34:23 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: Sub-Driver

"Dems abandoning leadership advice"

Do Dems really have "leadership?"

I thought Covens were run by a Satanic High Priest or Satanic High Priestess.

49 posted on 08/16/2009 2:36:37 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never Kick Leftists When They Are Down. Let Them Halfway Back Up. You Get Much Better Leverage!)
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To: HIDEK6; Houghton M.

I think they are still together. I think the man Huma is supposedly involved with is a “walker.”

Why not, our Governor, Charlie Crist took a wife.... A FEMALE!


50 posted on 08/16/2009 2:41:17 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Never Kick Leftists When They Are Down. Let Them Halfway Back Up. You Get Much Better Leverage!)
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