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Dems abandoning leadership advice
The Hill ^ | 08/16/09 01:30 PM [ET] | Jared Allen

Posted on 08/16/2009 12:38:41 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Dems abandoning leadership advice By Jared Allen Posted: 08/16/09 01:30 PM [ET] An August in which Democrats were supposed to return home to sell the merits of a universal healthcare plan has turned into one where members are publicly fending for themselves.

Some have even shunned the talking points and tactics their leaders encouraged them to use to gin up support for the Democratic healthcare bill as they’ve engaged with sometimes hostile constituents.

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.) recently lashed out at Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) recommended talking points aimed at the insurance industry, and criticized her approach in a letter to a local private insurance company, according to the Louisville Courier Journal.

“Regrettably, with passions inflamed throughout the country, Speaker Pelosi recently made inflammatory statements that assailed the character of health insurers across the board. I unequivocally reject those misguided comments,” Yarmouth wrote to the CEO of Louisville-based Humana, the paper reported this week.

Democrats unveiled a line of attack against the private insurance industry after the House failed to move a healthcare bill before August recess, an attack President Barack Obama has taken up in recent days. Pelosi called insurers the “villains” of the healthcare reform debate.

Even Democrats who are not part of the central leadership team were confident that attacking the insurance industry would play well, even in districts where members were due to face a backlash against “socialized medicine.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 111th; bho44; insuranceindustry; pelosi
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To: Sub-Driver

It ain’t over yet.

This was just the opening salvo.

As Patton said, now we’ll kick’em in the Ass.


21 posted on 08/16/2009 1:06:54 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Sub-Driver
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22 posted on 08/16/2009 1:09:37 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Sub-Driver
...has turned into one where members are publicly fending for themselves.

The 'rats are leaving the sinking ship. obama's healthcare reform (snort) is going down fast. People have woken up to the idea that it really doesn't improve healthcare in any way, nor reduce costs. Quite the opposite, it will make healthcare services harder to get, lower quality, and more expensive. I trifecta of failure. What obama's plan is really about is socialist nationalization of the healthcare system; bigger government; access to our private banking and health records; and more government control over our lives and shrinking liberties.

While obama has hurt America, and will no-doubt do more damage before he is thrown out of office (where's the birth certificate obama?) long-term he may be good for America. That which does not kill us makes us stronger. After obama, it will be a long long time (generation or so) before America elects anyone nearly as socialist as obama. By the 2010 elections, "socialist" will be a hot-button word. No-one will want to do or say anything that could be construed as socialist. They are going down in flames.

23 posted on 08/16/2009 1:11:26 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Be very cautious. They are going to push government co-ops.

Rememeber they change the wording to get the same result.

The whole idea needs to go back to the drawing board to prevent any government takeover.


24 posted on 08/16/2009 1:11:32 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dems....PLEASE....LISTEN to QUEEN NANCY!!! You need to go down with the ship!!!!! Call us Nazis....call us Un-Civilized...call us Rude for yelling at you Effete Elites!! You are showing your true colors!!


25 posted on 08/16/2009 1:12:20 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No.....there are PURISTS here on FR that will NOT vote for anyone who sniffs one time like a RINO!! PURITY is what they demand, so we all end up with Communists....Facists....Socialists who ARE pure in their EVIL!


26 posted on 08/16/2009 1:14:23 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Left wing publications like the Hill are panicked! As they see it, their democrat buddies are doing dumb stuff and from the NY Times to the WaPo to the Hill, tips are being passed out free-of-charge to any political hack willing to take them. Well you can’t blame media types. After all, they work 24/7 getting dems elected and then the dumb politicians get all bent out of shape just because a few of the mouth-breathing members of the serf class start asking questions! “Just shut up, do what Pelosi says and let us shill for you!” Yep, one can hear that advice going out from the MSM nationwide!


27 posted on 08/16/2009 1:14:47 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Sub-Driver

We know who the villains are.


28 posted on 08/16/2009 1:14:59 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ummm, the big national insurers are already fully prepared to clean up on big Federal contracts and the horrid confusion and inefficiency that will result from upending healthcare.

Medicare is already one of the most profitable lines of coverage for many companies. This plan goes a great deal farther than Medicare, and the profits will be beyond imagining.


29 posted on 08/16/2009 1:17:10 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("How's that 'hopey, changy' thing work'in out fer ya?")
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To: Ann Archy

Killing granny images is Obama’s Waterloo!


30 posted on 08/16/2009 1:19:46 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: jimbo123

I am ready to ride them all out on a rail if they vote for this monstrosity...

Like the guy from the Oh Brother movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIKz1phnuCc

I think average American people are with me on this one.


31 posted on 08/16/2009 1:41:15 PM PDT by RummyChick ("Free Speech....is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny" Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Very astute observation. Both the Progressive Caucus and the Black Caucus have drawn a line in the sand, saying that they will vote no without a public option. And both groups are far too nuts to back down from that. Instead I expect more attacks on their savior like the HuffPo leak about the pharma deal. This will be fun to watch!


32 posted on 08/16/2009 1:43:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: jimbo123

Hillary got dumped by Huma? That explains her more recent pathology.


33 posted on 08/16/2009 1:46:50 PM PDT by Miss Behave (AKA "Noogie." I dispense 'em. Hertz Doughnut?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Grassley and Shelby are already set to compromise for co-ops. Every time the Conservatives compromise the next year the Dems are back for more and we move slowly one more step to the left. Time to put the foot down and keep it there. IF the Dems want to own this let them but please don’t give them a win after all the work we have done to awaken the silent majority!


34 posted on 08/16/2009 1:46:57 PM PDT by georgiarat (The new KKK - Kos Koolaid Kids)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

They never had the “health” of the nation in mind with this ridiculous bill. It was a method of control, a tyranny in the guise of supposed health coverage for all.


35 posted on 08/16/2009 1:50:16 PM PDT by Semperfiwife (Health "care" - by the same folks who run Amtrak and the post office)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’ll bet this will be the last time The Kenyan lets Harry and Nancy do his dirty work. ka-BOOM!


36 posted on 08/16/2009 1:51:32 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Seems fishy")
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To: indylindy

Yes, it’s time to be confident, and cautious.

Our main problem now are the RINO’s, as they will sign on to the watered down version of HC.

I think it’s time to have some shouting at their town hall meetings.


37 posted on 08/16/2009 1:53:53 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: freekitty

Yep, freekitty. As tough Mr. Momjeans has told dim congresscritters who have thought of going against him: “We’re KEEPING SCORE.”


38 posted on 08/16/2009 1:54:49 PM PDT by Miss Behave (AKA "Noogie." I dispense 'em. Hertz Doughnut?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

These will be co-ops with government money involved. It is just a back door approach to the same thing.

I agree. RINOS will be the problem.


39 posted on 08/16/2009 1:56:51 PM PDT by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Sub-Driver
They did and it started here. What kind of an empty vessel would be lead around by the likes of zer0, reid, or pelosi?

Only the Borg. Democrats are naive morons as a bunch

40 posted on 08/16/2009 1:57:08 PM PDT by reefdiver (So how's that HOPE & CHANGE working out for ya ?)
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