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Canada-Top doctor says system 'imploding'
Canadian Press ^ | August 16, 2009 | Jennifer Graham

Posted on 08/16/2009 1:51:49 PM PDT by spyone

SASKATOON–The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says Canada's health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it.

Dr. Anne Doig says patients are getting less than optimal care, and she adds that physicians from across the country – who will gather in Saskatoon today for their annual meeting – recognize that changes must be made.

"We all agree that the system is imploding, we all agree that things are more precarious than perhaps Canadians realize," Doig told The Canadian Press.

(Excerpt) Read more at healthzone.ca ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Government
KEYWORDS: canadacare; healthcare; singlepayer; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 08/16/2009 1:51:49 PM PDT by spyone
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To: spyone

Hey guys! Let’s copy a system that’s about to go bust!!


2 posted on 08/16/2009 1:53:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (If we're an Empire, why are Cuba, Iraq, Philippines, Japan & Germany independent?)
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To: spyone
They gonna come for Obama Care like locust.
3 posted on 08/16/2009 1:55:43 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (...and never forget that!)
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To: bamahead; SunkenCiv; Kaslin

Coming to America, if the ‘Rats have their way.


4 posted on 08/16/2009 1:56:03 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: spyone
The incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association says Canada's health-care system is sick and doctors need to develop a plan to cure it.

EGPWS an American citizen says, the U.S. political system is sick and is pushing us to national destruction via health care.

5 posted on 08/16/2009 2:00:01 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: spyone; socialismisinsidious; Clive; exg; kanawa; backhoe; -YYZ-; Squawk 8888; headsonpikes; ...

6 posted on 08/16/2009 2:02:01 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: spyone

Coming to a deathcare system near you... if the statists get their way.


7 posted on 08/16/2009 2:03:55 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: spyone

And note that the peaceful human Canadians only cover Canadians!

Canadians refuse care to indigent non Canadian citizens!

Here in the US ANYONE can get 100% free health care.

My wife can’t refuse care based on ability to pay or even ask if they are US Citizens!


8 posted on 08/16/2009 2:04:02 PM PDT by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: spyone

The Canadians want our system....
And our commie president wants their system

How brain dead is that? And Obama is supposed to be the highest IQ president? That’s what historian Michael Bechloss said on Imus’ show

It’s all about power not health. Getting socialist power over Americans. When 45% of Americans pay no taxes this is not so difficult. Also minorities (blacks Hispanics) overwhelmingly favor “free health care” from the Federal government


9 posted on 08/16/2009 2:05:10 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: dennisw
And Obama is supposed to be the highest IQ president?

No school records have been released...

10 posted on 08/16/2009 2:08:07 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: spyone

Hey, guys, I have a great idea...Lets replicate a total failure...


11 posted on 08/16/2009 2:08:18 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: NoLibZone
Canadians refuse care to indigent non Canadian citizens!

We sure do, and not even Rush seems to realize it. :-(

12 posted on 08/16/2009 2:10:23 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: dennisw

Correct. Here in L.A., there are lots of low-cost and free healthcare facilities. My GF is also a nurse from canadastan and she works here now. As a matter of fact, if you head to the state hospitals here, you can also ask for the list after your visit.

Years ago, I was waiting for her after her shift at VGH in downtown Vancouver BC and this homeless bum was pleading to the guard for help and the guards (pricks) keep repeating “WHERE’S YOUR BC MEDICAL CARD?” Honestly, will Americans accept this behavior?


13 posted on 08/16/2009 2:15:55 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: fanfan

exactly. the fascist who is afraid, so afraid to even show his school records because he is a twinkie... a lightweight in the brains department, but then again, he sure can work a street of down and out blacks to rally against America. So could Bill Ayers, So could Hitler in Germany... that is they do.


14 posted on 08/16/2009 2:21:48 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sold!! That dispels all concerns I ever had. Where do I sign up?


15 posted on 08/16/2009 2:25:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: spyone
The pitch for change at the conference is to start with a presentation from Dr. Robert Ouellet, the current president of the CMA, who has said there's a critical need to make Canada's health-care system patient-centred. He will present details from his fact-finding trip to Europe in January, where he met with health groups in England, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands and France.

But not America and FREDOM OF CHOICE
16 posted on 08/16/2009 2:27:24 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Fear the government, pray for the country)
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To: spyone
Which is exactly the idea. Overload well-meaning Christian-based capitalist systems with unsupportable "social" burdens.

search "Yuri Bezmenov"
17 posted on 08/16/2009 2:29:57 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out (click my name)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Hey, guys, I have a great idea...Lets replicate a total failure...

That way we could be like everyone else and they would like us better because of it.

18 posted on 08/16/2009 2:37:43 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: spyone
Canada offers limited Health Care to its Citizens.

Citizens only.

We offer free unlimited care regardless of nationality.

When it comes to health insurance, all provincial governments offer limited coverage. The following is a list of what most governments cover in full:

It is important to note that this list is not reflective of all the health insurance plans across Canada.
Some provinces do not even provide full health insurance coverage for these basic needs, while others provide full coverage for more.


This is the main reason why supplemental health insurance is important to have.

Health Insurance Basics
Basic Health Insurance Plans
Types of Health Insurance Plans
Stages of Insurance
Enhanced Health Insurance Plans


Government Coverage

While the Canadian government provides medical care for its citizens, coverage for all health care needs is not available.
Each provincial government offers individuals various coverage basics. Medical expenses that are not covered by the provincial plan must either be paid in full by the individual or can be partially paid by a supplemental health insurance plan.
All provinces in Canada offer limited coverage to its citizens.


Canada Health Insurance
19 posted on 08/16/2009 2:38:46 PM PDT by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: spyone
I have a plan for all the illegal immigrants and others who are un-insured because they don't want to pay. (Not for people who had jobs and lost them, or had catastrophic health problems like accidents, etc. and need help) This would just be for the leeches:

Buy them some luggage, a one-way plane or train ticket, and help them find an apartment in Canada. They can get govt. health care there since they think it is so great. And we will solve our Health Care problems here with a lot less cost and a lot less govt. intervention.

20 posted on 08/16/2009 2:40:22 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: CitizenM

That’s just it.

Canada does not cover illegals.

America does and has been for decades.


21 posted on 08/16/2009 2:44:35 PM PDT by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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To: spyone

LOL!!! The Canadians now realize they need to fix their system because they won’t be able to get care in the USA under the ObamaCare Death Panel system.


22 posted on 08/16/2009 2:47:18 PM PDT by avacado
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To: bareford101

What could be so bad, that he can’t offer up the records?


23 posted on 08/16/2009 2:49:31 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: RedMonqey

Or Singapore or Thailand or Dubai or Israel....


24 posted on 08/16/2009 2:50:30 PM PDT by BillM
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To: fanfan

lies, lies and more lies would be exposed (communist/fascist support and ties)... I imagine that the low marks would come way down on the totem pole..


25 posted on 08/16/2009 2:53:10 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: spyone

The DUmmies, KOS kiddies and other Communists and progressives know single payer sucks! They want it for purposes of CONTROL and FREE, that’s the only reason.


26 posted on 08/16/2009 3:07:04 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: spyone

I saw reps from aarp and the ama on Fox news this afternoon and as a LSU Medical school grad in July 1962 all I can say is that the ama and aarp are nothing more than pimps for the dnc with their propaganda. The ama and aarp does NOT represent me!!! nor the bulk of doctors and senior citizens. All I can say to these miserable organizations is that they CAN GO TO HELL!!


27 posted on 08/16/2009 3:17:47 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there and done that!)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...


Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.

**This is a high volume ping list! (sign of the times)**


28 posted on 08/16/2009 3:20:13 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: fanfan

hyperbole. they keep equating the ability to campaign with every measurement of intelligence known to man.


29 posted on 08/16/2009 3:40:39 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: RedMonqey

maybe not America because he knows we’re on the path to screwing it up.


30 posted on 08/16/2009 3:42:03 PM PDT by wiggen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WayzmX0WQvg)
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To: dennisw

End-of-life care = End-of-care care


31 posted on 08/16/2009 3:51:38 PM PDT by 4Liberty (End of civilization. 'Who cares about a little pork?' - Senator Schumer)
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To: spyone

bookmark


32 posted on 08/16/2009 4:23:48 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Ask His forgiveness. Don't wait.)
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To: spyone

you know we’re making a difference if the canadians want to move to change their system.


33 posted on 08/16/2009 4:34:04 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: NoLibZone
And note that the peaceful human Canadians only cover Canadians! Canadians refuse care to indigent non Canadian citizens!

I read/hear anecdotes all the time from Americans who say they received all this good care in Canada when they were sick, and didn't have to pay for it, yada yada yada. So what is the real story--if you're American and get sick in Canada do they treat you or not?

34 posted on 08/16/2009 4:37:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: spyone
Pinged from Terri Dailies


35 posted on 08/16/2009 4:50:46 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: fanfan
No school records have been released...

Not even a list of the courses he took, much less his grades...

36 posted on 08/16/2009 4:51:36 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: spyone

Bump


37 posted on 08/16/2009 5:05:48 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: spyone

Lets play follow the leader right into poverty!!! (NOT)

our barry who art in DC
hallowed be thy name
thy taxes come
destruction done
in boise as it is in boston
give? us this day to feed the fed
and forgive us our trespasses
as you condemn those
and pass laws against us
lead us blind into fascism
and deliver us from freedom
for thine is the bullshit, the banksters, the taxes
to keep us in tyranny forever, amen


38 posted on 08/16/2009 5:23:42 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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Hey, cool.........let's go with a National plan where EVERYONE can wait for ages to see the Doc! Cool!...but Canadians come here for health care, so where will they go if this bogus Obama plan happens??? and where will we go?? Mexico???

Obama has all the great ideas!!!

FLOP-O-RAMA!!!!!

39 posted on 08/16/2009 5:43:59 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: spyone

BTT


40 posted on 08/16/2009 5:45:53 PM PDT by AuntB (Tired of D & R globalist power brokers? How 'bout HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY? It's a state of mind!)
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To: spyone

Imploding?

Wait lists?

Need competition?

But I thought all these things were of the past in Canada...


41 posted on 08/16/2009 6:05:21 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: dennisw

Anyone who thinks Obama has a higher IQ than Bill Clinton is living in lala land. We won’t even talk about comparing him to some REALLY smart people.


42 posted on 08/16/2009 6:17:41 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Change has come to America and all hope is gone.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“They come, they eat, they leave. They come, they eat, they leave. They come, they eat, they leave...”


43 posted on 08/16/2009 6:54:54 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: dennisw
And Obama is supposed to be the highest IQ president?

Maybe in AffirmativeActionLand, where there are 57 states, grammar doesn't matter, school, college, and birth records are never released or even mentioned, the post office is an example of why government is best AND why it's a failure, and breathalyzers are used for asthma victims. Here in the real world, probably not.

44 posted on 08/16/2009 6:58:31 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: avacado

Okay...that made me spit my soda...”Obama Care Death Panel System”

That is what we can call it! Not ObamaCare. Not Health Care Reform or Health Care Insurance Reform. Not HR3200. Not even Socialized Medicine.

I can hear Katie Couric saying (or maybe not): “...Tonight, the Obama Care Death Panel System was implemented simultaneously in 23 states...”

There is even an acronym! OCDPS! Hey, here is a government program to love!

Hehehe, I needed a laugh there...:)


45 posted on 08/16/2009 7:01:27 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: NoLibZone

Yep, no matter what you do there will always be a private industry. It makes up for the lack of coverage these folks get when they really need it.


46 posted on 08/17/2009 12:28:03 AM PDT by Rick_Michael (Have no fear "President Government" is here)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Self-ping


47 posted on 08/17/2009 6:10:48 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: fanfan
And Obama is supposed to be the highest IQ president? No school records have been released...

"But he's got an ivy league degree, so he must be brilliant, right?"

So does Sheila Jackson-Lee...'Nuf said?

(What idjit said BO has a high IQ, anyway?
Let me guess: does he get a "tingle" just thinking about BO?)

48 posted on 08/17/2009 8:31:57 AM PDT by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I was an RN for years. Americans are treated in Emergency rooms but they pay for the vist. It’s something like $400.00 to go to an Emergency room and see a doctor and receive treatment. The medications in the Emergency are free as well as X-rays, scans etc. IF they are admitted to hospital it costs them a daily fee which will vary according to whether they are in a private room, semi-private or 4-bed ward. Still, the costs would not rival those in the United States. But still, you have a better system.

When I graduated in the late 60’s from Vancouver General Hospital, the care and the access were wonderful. The system is underfunded and now over loaded. There is also now a major shortage of doctors and nurses. A system like ours in a country the size of yours including all the illegals etc. will be more than a disaster. CO


49 posted on 08/17/2009 12:09:42 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage

In California we must offer care regardless of insurance, ability to pay or citizenship.

ten years at: Desert Regional Trauma Center, Palm Springs California.


50 posted on 08/17/2009 5:28:29 PM PDT by NoLibZone (North Korea? The only buildings in Hawaii at risk of destruction are those housing Obama's records!)
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