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Utah Told It Canít Count Missionaries In Census
AP Report ^ | August 16, 2009

Posted on 08/16/2009 8:33:36 PM PDT by Steelfish

Utah told it can’t count missionaries in census

Bureau says there’s no way to reliably count those overseas in 2010

Aug 16, 2009

SALT LAKE CITY - The U.S. Census Bureau has told Utah's elected leaders it won't count Mormon missionaries serving overseas in the nation's next head count.

Census Bureau officials, rejecting Utah's lobbying efforts for the better part of a decade, say there's no way to reliably count the overseas missionaries.

Utah leaders say the omission cost the state an extra congressional seat in 2000, when the state fell just 857 people short of receiving the last available slot in the U.S. House.

The Census Bureau does count military and federal employees serving overseas, and Rob Bishop, R-Utah, says it should include Mormons on proselytizing missions.

"The bottom line should still be fairness and accuracy," Bishop said. "If we are currently counting some people abroad and not others, there is just no logic to that whatsoever."

An experiment in counting Americans abroad in 2004 turned into a "colossal failure," said Louis Kincannon, a former Census Bureau director under President Bill Clinton.

Few Americans responded to an outreach program in three sample countries — Mexico, France and Kuwait.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 2010census; census; discrimination; impeachobama; missionaries; missionary; obama; utah
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1 posted on 08/16/2009 8:33:36 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

You can count illegals.
You can count the homeless using “estimates”.
You can not count Utah’s citizens who are out of state doing good works....sigh


2 posted on 08/16/2009 8:35:33 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: Steelfish

I’m sure the ACORN types would choose to overlook the missionaries even if they were all home.


3 posted on 08/16/2009 8:36:19 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Steelfish
An experiment in counting Americans abroad in 2004 turned into a "colossal failure," said Louis Kincannon

Oh Ok...Liberals believe they can change the earths climate but they cant accurately count overseas missionary's. Gotcha.

4 posted on 08/16/2009 8:36:25 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Steelfish

They could bring the missionaries home for the census.

I am not sure teaching the fairy tales of the convicted fraud, Joseph Smith counts as good works.


5 posted on 08/16/2009 8:37:54 PM PDT by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: icwhatudo

Why not lie a little? I’m sure Acorn is going to count any family member who may be in another state temporarily. So when the form comes..add in the kids who are out there on mission and the kids who are in the military. etc. Why not?


6 posted on 08/16/2009 8:38:00 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Steelfish

Can these people be any more transparent?


7 posted on 08/16/2009 8:38:23 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Boehner Baby!!!)
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To: icwhatudo

Doesn’t matter who else they count or don’t count since they have decided to count the illegals.
The only thing for citizens to do is to undercount themselves to make up for the 30-40 million illegals here.
I plan on making my census ‘very intersting’. lol


8 posted on 08/16/2009 8:39:11 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Steelfish

“there’s no way to reliably count those overseas in 2010”

Airplane tickets there would be a way.


9 posted on 08/16/2009 8:39:41 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: mylife
Oh Ok...Liberals believe they can change the earths climate but they cant accurately count overseas missionary's. Gotcha.

Bingo!
Well Said!

10 posted on 08/16/2009 8:39:55 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: icwhatudo

Something completely upside down in that thinking.
Not counting military will be next.


11 posted on 08/16/2009 8:41:02 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: Steelfish

I wonder if they count Americans who are serving overseas in the Peace Corps?


12 posted on 08/16/2009 8:41:23 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Fiddlstix

These pinheads piss me off.


13 posted on 08/16/2009 8:41:25 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Steelfish

There goes Mayor Ray Nagin’s plan to have Katrina refugees counted as still living in New Orleans.


14 posted on 08/16/2009 8:41:29 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Jump You F**kers!)
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To: Fiddlstix

Double Bingo!


15 posted on 08/16/2009 8:42:00 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: Oldexpat

I say we citizens need to undercount ourselves to make up for the illegals they plan on counting.
They say California has 6 million illegals, do you know how many more reps that will add for them?
Do people that live elsewhere really want California to have that many reps?
Conservatives need to really think about how they are going to fill out their census forms.


16 posted on 08/16/2009 8:42:58 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Steelfish

Can bet every illegal in Utah will be counted though.


17 posted on 08/16/2009 8:43:02 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system. I am Jim Thompson.)
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To: jer33 3

Ping.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2317642/posts


18 posted on 08/16/2009 8:44:01 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: mylife

That makes two of us for sure!


19 posted on 08/16/2009 8:44:13 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Steelfish

Then don’t count me.

Don’t count any military.


20 posted on 08/16/2009 8:44:16 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Live free or die.)
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