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The Nuge vs. The Waco Trib (Ted Nugent Fired)
Texas Monthly ^ | August 16, 2009 | Evan Smith

Posted on 08/17/2009 7:21:16 AM PDT by abb

Just got a missive — unguided missile? — from my pal Ted Nugent saying he’s been fired by the Waco Tribune-Herald, which has new owners as of a couple of weeks ago. I’ve contacted Carlos Sanchez, the editor of the Trib, and asked for his response, which I’ll post below when I receive it. (For now, click here to read his comments as published in the paper today.)

Nugent’s email to me:

Just been fired from Waco Trib. Now they will have to rely on their other New York Times Best Sellers, and array of clever and diverse journalists to convey their diverse & tolerant point(s) of view. Here’s my Teditorial after being told to not criticize in my Sunday features that they chose to not run.

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I’ll Take Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press for $100, Alex by Ted Nugent

When the Nazis had the Americans surrounded in the town of Bastogne, they demanded American General McAuliffe surrender or they would level the city. General McAuliffe’s reply: Nuts!

The new editor of the Waco Trib recently told me that I could only write nice things about people, that I could not be critical. Basically, that I need to tone it down. I can not, nor will not, comply with this Romper Room request. My reply: Nuts!

The editor is wrong to try and muzzle my opinions.

As a columnist, I express my opinions. That’s what columnists do. That’s also the charge of an independent and free press.

The job of the press is to be the “fourth” arm of government. To intentionally muzzle itself is to fail at its most basic watchdog responsibility. As readers, voters and citizens we should demand a watchdog press, not a lapdog press.

I can’t envision Thomas Jefferson, George Washington or Ben Franklin making a request of an anti-King George columnist to tone it down. I can’t imagine Martin Luther King toning down his message. It is impossible for me to fathom any American to tone down what is in his heart and soul.

I criticize where I believe criticism is due. That’s what Thomas Paine did when he published Common Sense prior to the Revolutionary War. He criticized King George for his heavy handed and wrong policies. We are free in large part because of Thomas Paine’s open, routine and strident criticism.

I have criticized President Obama and liberals for what I consider to be destructive, anti-American policies that will hurt our economy and harm your health. Not once have I criticized him personally because I have never met the man. As far as I know he is a decent enough guy, but in my opinion, is politically naive and very wrong, even dangerous for America. So do many other Americans as indicated by the shrinking support for his takeover of the health care system and numerous other heavy handed, foolish moves.

Obama’s policies are bankrupting America. He supports a health care bill that he hasn’t even read, nor have those in congress who support it. If that doesn’t deserve massive amount of criticism, what does?

When I have criticized President Obama, I have almost always countered his dunderheaded, Marxist policies with a free market, more personal freedom alternative. More government control is not the answer to what ails America. Obama believes otherwise.

This newspaper and others should encourage spirited and lively debate and criticism, especially when so many newspapers are losing subscribers. I don’t support milquetoast journalism. It bores me.

You are free to disagree with my opinions. In fact, I encourage those of you who do to fill the letters to the editor page of this newspaper. I revel in open debate. That’s the America I know and love. Express yourself, Texas. Lay it on the line. Give it your best shot. Be bold in your disagreement.

Construcitve, bold criticism is cool. It rocks. It can literally change the course and destiny of an individual, neighborhood, community, and nation. It is the most basic of our Constitutional rights — the 1st Amendment. Failing to criticize emboldens politicians to stay on course regardless how many icebergs are dead ahead. Political correctness is the cancer of journalism, not its cure.

America and Texas was born with a defiant streak. Those genes still flow through my veins. To request that I not criticize is to spit on the memory of those who gave birth to America. Again, I criticize where I believe criticism is due. That’s my civic job and your job as Americans. If the editor of this newspaper doesn’t like that, he will have to fire me. I will not surrender to his wrong demands.

In the words of another famous American military man, William Barrett Travis, commander of the Alamo: God & Texas. Victory or death.


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1 posted on 08/17/2009 7:21:17 AM PDT by abb
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To: abb

Just goes to show you that liberals don’t want any opinions which are not their own. Who needs the Waco newspaper anyway? Can’t wait to see Ted Nugent at the “Friends of America Rally” on Labor Day in Holden, WV. Hank Williams Jr. and Sean Hannity are also scheduled to appear. It should be big. The official website is: friendsofamericarally.com


2 posted on 08/17/2009 7:27:03 AM PDT by chippewaman
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To: abb

I can’t believe the Nuge wouldn’t bow to the demands of the left. /sarc


3 posted on 08/17/2009 7:29:10 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: abb
I appreciate Ted's viewpoints, but the guy who bought the newspaper IS engaging in freedom of the press. As a columnist, you don't have the right to print your opinion, you have the right to print your editor's opinion.

The Waco Tribune Herald has no obligation to print any viewpoint with which it disagrees. Ted, OTOH, is free to find a media outlet that is more conducive to his opinion.

If the pressure is from the government, that's a freedom of the press issue. If the pressure is from your editor, that's Tuesday. I speak as one who has written for several newspapers, magazines, etc. (nothing major.)

Editors catch the flack for columnists. If Peggy Hill writes that ammonia and bleach are a great cleaning combination (don't do that, BTW) the editor and the magazine get the complaints.

4 posted on 08/17/2009 7:30:37 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: abb
If I were the Nuge, I wouldn't sweat it. I don't give 90 percent of dailies two years and that's being generous.

As far as I know he is a decent enough guy, but in my opinion, is politically naive and very wrong, even dangerous for America.

That's my opinion too. Obama's problem is that he has been badly miseducated.

And I would be very surprised if Obama can even come close to articulating what Hayek or Friedman or Adam Smith believed.

I would be equally surprised if Obama ever even read the Bible with anything close to an open mind.

I honestly think Obama's world view is shaped by 1970s sitcoms and dope-session discussions with Marxist intellectual wannabes .

5 posted on 08/17/2009 7:32:01 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: chippewaman

Papers get their money from Advertising - pure and simple. When papers are in the red (as they have been for a long time) yet go on for years, who do you think has been proping them up??

Papers that support higher taxes?
Papers that support illegals?
Papers that support government intrutions into our lives (like Cap and Trade and Obamacare)?
Papers the suburbs and countryside doesn’t like?

Answer - lots and lots of Lib/progressive funds.


6 posted on 08/17/2009 7:33:27 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Richard Kimball
I appreciate Ted's viewpoints, but the guy who bought the newspaper IS engaging in freedom of the press.

Nobody is saying otherwise, although we are equally free to try to get them to change their mind by pointing out their hypocrisy to differing views, double-standards with regard to dissent and by canceling subscriptions.

7 posted on 08/17/2009 7:34:18 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

The Waco Tribune was recently bought by local people.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2009/07/16/07162009wacrobinsonWEB.html

Robinsons to buy Waco Tribune-Herald


8 posted on 08/17/2009 7:34:39 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

The Nuge is right as always. He should be syndicated throughout the country so that lefties get some truth. Keep fighting for the truth and the right to express yourself Ted!


9 posted on 08/17/2009 7:34:49 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: abb

The only people who enjoy absolute freedom of the press are those who own newspapers, the publishers. If Ted wants to have his unrestricted say, he should have bought the Waco paper, which I am sure was going for a bargain price.


10 posted on 08/17/2009 7:35:16 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: abb
If Ted is not reinstated the Waco Tribune will go down the same road it was headed..and that was dead everyone was getting tired of all the liberal crap now it seems it is worse..So good bye Tribune I hope you picked a good cemetery lot to bury your paper..
11 posted on 08/17/2009 7:36:16 AM PDT by PLD
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To: La Lydia
The only people who enjoy absolute freedom of the press are those who own newspapers, the publishers.

That was true up until the internet came along.

12 posted on 08/17/2009 7:39:23 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Ted Nugent’s articles themselves probably have 10X the readership of this newspaper.


13 posted on 08/17/2009 7:40:21 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: abb

BUMP for excellence!


14 posted on 08/17/2009 7:41:07 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tribune7
I thought Ted's title to his column did make the claim:

I’ll Take Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press for $100, Alex by Ted Nugent

BTW, as to the Robinsons buying the Trib, shrug. I didn't read it before, and I won't read it now.

15 posted on 08/17/2009 7:43:01 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: PGR88
Ted Nugent’s articles themselves probably have 10X the readership of this newspaper.

Agreed. I have a feeling the maroon who made the decision to fire Ted is going to get an avalanche of letters, including many requests to "cancel my subscription".

16 posted on 08/17/2009 7:43:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: abb

In the words of another great American, “Kill ‘em and Grill ‘em!”


17 posted on 08/17/2009 7:44:34 AM PDT by Big_Harry ( Thank God I am an "Infidel"!)
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To: abb

They’ve been Nuge-itized!!!


18 posted on 08/17/2009 7:45:10 AM PDT by stevie_d_64
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To: abb

Has the Waco trib hurt Nuge’s exposure level one iota? Nope.

Will this hurt the trib’s circulation? Probably.

But The Party is always right! The Ministry of Truth and its organs must see to that. All must love Big Brother Obama!

/SPIT


19 posted on 08/17/2009 7:46:30 AM PDT by piytar (Being asked to report your neighbors to flag@whitehouse.gov is REAL FASCISM! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: abb

There is a significant difference between freedom of the “press” and freedom of expression. True, the Internet has vastly expanded freedom of expression. But newspapers still have publishers who hire and fire the help, and who determine what goes on the editorial page and what is printed in the news section (and the advertisements, for that matter.) Newspapers, and their publishers, still control the Associated Press and other wire services. Similar executives control network news on TV and on the radio. Ted can go on writing his column any way he wants, and send it out on the Internet, and many of us will read it with glee. It just won’t be published on paper with ink in Waco any longer. The only people who enjoy absolute freedom of the press are those who own newspapers, the publishers.


20 posted on 08/17/2009 7:50:09 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: abb

Okay, I appreciate Ted Nugent, but I really don’t feel inclined to read the political musings of anyone who writes the following sentences: “XXX is cool. It rocks.” No thank you.


21 posted on 08/17/2009 7:50:54 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: La Lydia

I understand that. My point is with the internet WE now have ‘printing presses’ (a keyboard and computer) and a distribution system (a modem connected to a network).


22 posted on 08/17/2009 7:56:02 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: PGR88
Ted Nugent’s articles themselves probably have 10X the readership of this newspaper.

He should just write a blog anyway. Fishwraps are a dying business.

23 posted on 08/17/2009 8:00:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (I wonder why Solomon Ortiz (TX-27) is so afraid of talking with his constituents?)
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To: abb

And WE also now face the same challenges that newspapers face, that is, getting someone to read our stuff. The Internet isn’t a distribution system unless someone actually reads what you write. And in order to be effective, you have to have a readership of the magnitude of Jim Robinson or Matt Drudge or Michelle Malkin for it to have any effect. How many inane blogs do you know of that you would never look at more than once? Those people have freedom of expression, but they do not have “freedom of the press.”


24 posted on 08/17/2009 8:03:44 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: abb
Ted Nugent is mean, and not a good Baptist. Bye bye!

/sarc

 

 

  Ted Nugent for congress petition

25 posted on 08/17/2009 8:12:29 AM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: PGR88

I always looked forward to reading Ted’s commentary. Even though I am a resident of Missouri, I still was a patron of the WACO TRIBUNE, sometimes browsing other content.

I guess since Ted will no longer be a part of the WACO TRIBUNE, I probably won’t visit their web pages again. I understand management reserves the final say of content.
but the people reserve the final say about viewing or not viewing the publication.

Ted will write elsewhere, and I will read his columns elsewhere. BTW, did you see Ted’s interview on the local public TV station a couple weeks ago? it was on utube.
Ted ROCKS!


26 posted on 08/17/2009 8:15:34 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: La Lydia

Somebody else already bought(overpaid for) the paper. Maybe Ted can buy it out of bankruptcy 6 months from now ;-)


27 posted on 08/17/2009 8:17:37 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: abb

This Nuge guy sounds fishy. I tried to report him but my email bounced back.


28 posted on 08/17/2009 8:18:11 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: La Lydia
Those people have freedom of expression, but they do not have “freedom of the press.”

The First Amendment never conferred a "right to be heard or to be read." It only conferred a right to speak or to publish. Newspapers and electronic broadcast got their readership and viewership because of a near-monopoly of the technology of the era.

That is now over.

I suggest that if the message is pertinent and well-stated, it will eventually be seen. This thread yesterday addressed that very issue. The State-Run Media has been unable to dictate the message as it has in the past.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2317493/posts

PR Pros: Obama Has Lost Control of the Health-Care Message

29 posted on 08/17/2009 8:19:04 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Note to Trib ownership and management: It’s your paper. You can do what you want. But telling Ted Nugent to chill out is like telling Maureen Dowd to stop writing nonsense. It’s not going to happen.


30 posted on 08/17/2009 8:21:44 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: abb

Sounds like the Waco newspaper will be losing a lot of readers, I expect its circulation to crash. The newspaper spiral of death has been mostly in the big cities it seems, but that smallish city could soon be without a paper.


31 posted on 08/17/2009 8:26:10 AM PDT by GeronL (bookmark my new FR back-up site - http://unitedcitizen.proboards.com)
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To: Richard Kimball
I appreciate Ted's viewpoints, but the guy who bought the newspaper IS engaging in freedom of the press. As a columnist, you don't have the right to print your opinion, you have the right to print your editor's opinion.

Nonsense. Everybody in the chain of production there may certainly disagree and not participate (or choose an alternative), whether it's the publisher, the editor, or the columnist. It's a free country. Furthermore if they certainly have a right to voice their opinion or publish it. If it gets into copyright or slander or libel then maybe we might start talking about civil actions.

32 posted on 08/17/2009 8:26:19 AM PDT by no-s (Remember to B.L.O.A.T. everyday...because someday soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: Richard Kimball
I appreciate Ted's viewpoints, but the guy who bought the newspaper IS engaging in freedom of the press

Nobody has said they can't do it, in fact they DID do it. Now the paper will suffer the consequences of their actions.

33 posted on 08/17/2009 8:27:55 AM PDT by GeronL (bookmark my new FR back-up site - http://unitedcitizen.proboards.com)
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To: PLD; LA Woman3

The irony is the Robinson’s said they would take the paper in a more conservative direction.


34 posted on 08/17/2009 8:29:50 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: abb

Sorry Ted but the guy who signs your checks runs the show.

If bus drivers failed to show up for work or tell riders to go F*ck themselves, who do you think would win that battle.

Let Ted start his own paper.


35 posted on 08/17/2009 8:30:17 AM PDT by ExiledChicagoan (I see a red door and I want it painted black. But that's just me.)
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To: La Lydia

Ted should start syndicating his column online, somewhere. Townhall, Canada Free Press, Jewish World Review maybe the WashTimes. Or maybe all of the above.


36 posted on 08/17/2009 8:30:34 AM PDT by GeronL (bookmark my new FR back-up site - http://unitedcitizen.proboards.com)
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To: La Lydia

“How many inane blogs do you know of that you would never look at more than once?”

Ouch that hurt

tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com

unitedcitizen.blogspot.com


37 posted on 08/17/2009 8:33:46 AM PDT by GeronL (bookmark my new FR back-up site - http://unitedcitizen.proboards.com)
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To: no-s

We may disagree, but calling my post nonsense is nonsense on your part. The balance of your post supports my original comment. You can write columns that are agreeable with management’s position, or you can find another place to write. There may be negotiation on what’s acceptable, but in the end, you print what’s acceptable to management or you pick up your dolly and dishes and go find another media outlet. I know. I’ve done it several times.


38 posted on 08/17/2009 8:35:37 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: McLynnan

I know, and that is what makes me wonder if they are conservative...


39 posted on 08/17/2009 8:39:18 AM PDT by PLD
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To: McLynnan

They must have meant tightwad when they said “conservative”


40 posted on 08/17/2009 8:45:44 AM PDT by GeronL (bookmark my new FR back-up site - http://unitedcitizen.proboards.com)
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To: RichInOC
Telling Nuge to tone it down is like telling Rosie O'Donnell to stop being fat.
41 posted on 08/17/2009 8:50:29 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: abb

The new owners are going to look pretty silly canceling a column written by the future Secretary of the Interior...


42 posted on 08/17/2009 8:52:17 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: GeronL

Does he write a column every week, on a regular day, or just when the spirit moves him? The syndicates require regular copy on a specific schedule. I think he would have had syndication offers by now, probably from a syndicate like Creators, which syndicates Michelle Malkin. Perhaps he didn’t want to to be tied to a weekly deadline.


43 posted on 08/17/2009 8:57:40 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

That could be it too. Maybe a regular reader would know.


44 posted on 08/17/2009 8:58:33 AM PDT by GeronL (bookmark my new FR back-up site - http://unitedcitizen.proboards.com)
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To: Tribune7
That's my opinion too <(That Obama is a good guy.). Obama's problem is that he has been badly miseducated.

You and Ted Nugent must be talking about personality rather than character. Would a "good guy" conceal his past to the extent that Obama has, even refusing to prove he is qualified for the office he holds? Would a good guy be a Community Organizer teaching and encouraging people to round up and register fraudulent and non-existent voters? Could a Good Guy attend Harvard and Columbia Universities and few, if any, of his fellow students remember he had even been there? Would a Good Guy continually lie to the public, saying one thing then doing another? Would a Good Guy hire so many people with nefarious backgrounds and bypass the approval process by naming them Czars over the Constitutional heads of government departments? Would a Good Guy fire the Inspectors General of several agencies because they had uncovered wrong doing?

The list is endless.

Obama is NOT a Good Guy! He is a lying despicable Communist! Can a Communist be a Good Guy? Perhaps a few Useful Idiots but they only stay Communists until they discover what is really going on within the party. A party or philosophy which encourages lying, stealth, deception, false imprisonment, rationing healthcare, and all other Socialist?Communist values and practices cannot be good according to our history and culture. They are amoralists!

45 posted on 08/17/2009 8:59:28 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: La Lydia

Looks pretty regular.

http://www.wacotrib.com/opin/content/news/opinion/nugent.html

Those are his column archives there


46 posted on 08/17/2009 9:01:03 AM PDT by GeronL (bookmark my new FR back-up site - http://unitedcitizen.proboards.com)
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To: Richard Kimball
OOPS! Sorry. My knee jerked...

You can write columns that are agreeable with management’s position, or you can find another place to write. There may be negotiation on what’s acceptable, but in the end, you print what’s acceptable to management or you pick up your dolly and dishes and go find another media outlet.

I get your point. If the editor doesn't want to print what you write, you can certainly print it for yourself and accept the consequences with respect to your working relationship, heheh.

That's freedom of the press. It's the 21st century. The bar to entry is very very low now.

47 posted on 08/17/2009 9:02:05 AM PDT by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. everyday...because someday soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: GeronL

You’re right. Maybe someone should ask Ted.


48 posted on 08/17/2009 9:05:06 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: McLynnan
The irony is the Robinson’s said they would take the paper in a more conservative direction.

They are. Conservative in their minds means "totally politically correct".

49 posted on 08/17/2009 9:06:31 AM PDT by jimt
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To: abb; Fiddlstix; Squantos; Clinger; GeronL; Billie; Slyfox; San Jacinto; SpookBrat; DainBramage; ...
Excerpt:

Nugent’s email to me:

Just been fired from Waco Trib. Now they will have to rely on their other New York Times Best Sellers, and array of clever and diverse journalists to convey their diverse & tolerant point(s) of view. Here’s my Teditorial after being told to not criticize in my Sunday features that they chose to not run.

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I’ll Take Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press for $100, Alex by Ted Nugent

When the Nazis had the Americans surrounded in the town of Bastogne, they demanded American General McAuliffe surrender or they would level the city. General McAuliffe’s reply: Nuts!

The new editor of the Waco Trib recently told me that I could only write nice things about people, that I could not be critical. Basically, that I need to tone it down. I can not, nor will not, comply with this Romper Room request. My reply: Nuts!

The editor is wrong to try and muzzle my opinions.

As a columnist, I express my opinions. That’s what columnists do. That’s also the charge of an independent and free press.

[snip]

In the words of another famous American military man, William Barrett Travis, commander of the Alamo: God & Texas. Victory or death.

- - - - -

Pingin' my Texas and General Interest Lists here cuz I thought you'd wanna know! :)

Ping! Ping! Ping!

50 posted on 08/17/2009 9:06:52 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (2008: The year the Media died. --Sean Hannity, regarding Barack HUSSEIN ObaMao's treatment ...)
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