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Obama foes turn to 60s radical for tactical tips
FT.com ^ | Edward Luce and Alexandra Ulmer

Posted on 08/17/2009 8:05:48 AM PDT by Sammy67

Opponents of Barack Obama’s healthcare proposals are using the tactics of Saul Alinksy, the legendary leftwing activist who helped inspire the US president when he was a young community organiser, says Dick Armey, head of Freedom Works, a group fighting against universal healthcare.

Mr Armey, who was the Republican majority leader in the House of Representatives for most of the 1990s, said his group, which is behind many of the “tea party” protests that have disrupted town-hall meetings in the past two weeks, draws consciously on the forms of agitation pioneered by Mr Alinsky.

Mr Obama, who worked as a community organiser among unemployed steel workers on Chicago’s South Side in the late 1980s, was heavily influenced by Mr Alinsky, who inspired a generation of radicals in the 1960s

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alinksy; alinsky; communism; communist; democrats; dickarmey; dickarmy; freedomworks; h1n1; healthcare; hoax; obama; obamacare; politics; rulesforradicals; saulalinsky; swineflu; teaparty; townhall; universal

1 posted on 08/17/2009 8:05:48 AM PDT by Sammy67
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To: All

Don’t forget Sept. 12th

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSVyFJdaGAI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Efoundingbloggers%2Ecom%2Fwordpress%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=193


2 posted on 08/17/2009 8:06:21 AM PDT by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

‘’Alinsky, you magnificent bastard, we read your book!’’


3 posted on 08/17/2009 8:08:22 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Nuts And Sluts Disrupt Townhall Meetings)
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To: Sammy67

Why shouldn’t we use their tactics? We even have captured their art form with the Joker. I am getting a Che type tshirt made of the picture. If my friends don’t like the joke..well the joker is on them.
Need to get some posters printed for light poles in my hood also.


4 posted on 08/17/2009 8:09:07 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Sammy67

I think Obama is more of an aggrivator than agitator. I think we should be able to get an aggrivation tax deduction.


5 posted on 08/17/2009 8:09:23 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Sammy67

Well, Dick Armey, this is no news at all, uncovering the Alinsky connection. I, in fact, lived on the South Side when Alinsky was at his most active.
The one good thing to watch for as the summer rolls on, as Armey says, is how they’ll manage to demagogue the swine flu issue , creating a panic as they attempt to introduce it into the “Health Care” debate, as an argument to help support Obama’s plan.


7 posted on 08/17/2009 8:15:30 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: Sammy67

8 posted on 08/17/2009 8:18:24 AM PDT by frankenMonkey
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To: Sammy67
I reject the premise of this article.

We do not disrupt meetings.

We merely try to participate, and when that participation is unwanted and inconvenient, we still do it.

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9 posted on 08/17/2009 8:21:04 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Sammy67

That’s right...turn their own cannon against them!! LOL


10 posted on 08/17/2009 8:23:47 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Sarah Palin......Gippercuda 2012!)
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To: proudbirther

What a picture - that’s great, but not unexpected for the generations that followed the embarrassments of the ‘60s.


11 posted on 08/17/2009 8:32:23 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Sammy67

Fighting fire with fire works.

Something the Bush White House failed to understand.

Something the GOP congressional leadership failed to understand.

Something conservative leaning talking heads and opnion writers by in large fail to understand.

That is why the GOP sits now as the minority. Not only do you have to play the game on Democrats turf now. You have to be willing to get dirty and throw back. Americans like people that fight for what they believe and all too often the GOP looks like a 900 pound wussie whenever they are TV facing off against a Rat or a media talking head. All of this started after the Clinton White House blamed Gingrich and Dole for the Government shutdowns in 1995. Off went to the testicle in to Hillary’s lockbox.

The GOP should be taking notes and implementing what has been going on in these townhalls and go all out against the media and the Rats and let the chips fall.


12 posted on 08/17/2009 8:33:20 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Drive By Media is America's worst enemy and American people don't know it.)
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To: Sammy67
Obama has always been very vulnerable to his own Alinsky tactics. He has a fragile personality that cannot deal with being mocked (contrast to Reagen who often cracked jokes about his own age). Also it is easy to personalize any debate. Calling it Obamacare instantly transfers any bad feelings about the death panels directly onto Obama.

Finally we don't have a leader and that actually works to out advantage. A group can survive being mocked and vilified far more than an individual. Hence Alinsky's emphasis on fixing and personalizing any argument.
13 posted on 08/17/2009 8:46:08 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world, and they are all out to get me.)
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To: proudbirther

ping for later theft!


14 posted on 08/17/2009 8:59:22 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Oldexpat

It is beneath us to use their tactics. We should write lengthy, philosophical, well-researched pieces and have them published in obscure yet respectable paper journals with circulations no more than a few thousands.

Even if we lose, we know we lost in a dignified way.


15 posted on 08/17/2009 8:59:46 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (ObamaCare is socialism. It will do nothing but increase premature, unnecessary death.)
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To: Gene Eric

OMG. I thought exactly the same thing when I saw it. Here is a “long-hair-hippie-type” at odds with the old guy, both holding up signs, but...

What they are rooting for is completely and totally reversed!

Just Wow!


16 posted on 08/17/2009 9:00:43 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Lexington Green

‘’Alinsky, you magnificent bastard, we read your book!’’

we actually know how to read, unlike many of obama’s liberal activists


17 posted on 08/17/2009 9:31:06 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: Sammy67

Personally I think it’s a mistake to mimmic Alinski, we need to know his tactics, and how to counter him, but we do not want to become him!


18 posted on 08/17/2009 9:33:40 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: rlmorel

oh don’t worry...there are lots of ‘old’ guys against obamacare


19 posted on 08/17/2009 9:34:46 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: rlmorel

Anyone that grew up in the wake of the ‘60s sewage understands that picture.


20 posted on 08/17/2009 9:37:22 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: JSDude1

the navy seals learned the guerilla tactics of the viet cong and use them but that doesn’t mean they are the viet cong.


21 posted on 08/17/2009 9:37:24 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: ari-freedom

But the irony! Life is always varied, and it just tickled me to see that image.


22 posted on 08/17/2009 9:40:05 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Gene Eric

I literally cannot look at a peace sign without having an Encyclopedia Brittanica of images, slogans, stereotypes and emotions pass through my brain in a flash of a second.

I cannot stand that effing thing. It stands for EVERYTHING I am against. (And no...for you liberals out there reading this, I’m not against peace...I am just against assuming everyone wants it until I get a fist or a bullet in the face...)


23 posted on 08/17/2009 9:44:14 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: ari-freedom; JSDude1

I just finished reading “Rules for Radicals”, and it was one of the most immoral books I have ever read.

I cannot see myself buying into the total concept, although there are some concepts included that are commonsense.

But, reading the book is invaluable to understanding your enemy. After reading the book, I understand much better the things that are unfolding at their direction, and you can never, EVER underestimate your enemy.

In the words of a famous fighter pilot, I think they are imbeciles, but I plan to treat them and their tactics as if they were from the Red Baron himself.


24 posted on 08/17/2009 9:49:39 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: rlmorel

>> I cannot stand that effing thing.

LOL - it’s definitely a miserable symbol for the radical hatred associated with it. I see that symbol and I recall images of self-loathing losers spitting upon troops returning from Vietnam. I see that symbol and I’m reminded of the Killing Fields. I see that symbol and I’m reminded of the ignorance that has infected the organism of corporate marketing.


25 posted on 08/17/2009 10:33:52 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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