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Voting with Their Feet (2000000 Americans Leave America)
National review ^ | 08/06/2009 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 08/18/2009 6:04:33 AM PDT by sr4402

If that's correct, I can't think events in 2009 will do anything to diminish the flow. What I wonder is: Where did those 2 million go? Britons, Canadians, Europeans, etc, who seek "greener pastures" generally wind up in the U.S. For most of us immigrants, this is the last stop on the tour: There's nowhere else to go. So where on the planet do a couple of million Americans go to find somewhere "greener"?

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Do you Think Taxes may have had something to do with it?
1 posted on 08/18/2009 6:04:34 AM PDT by sr4402
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In 1990, when Congress imposed a luxury tax on yachts, private airplanes and expensive automobiles, Sen. Ted Kennedy and then-Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell crowed publicly about how the rich would finally be paying their fair share of taxes. But yacht retailers reported a 77 percent drop in sales, and boat builders laid off an estimated 25,000 workers.

What happened? Kennedy and Mitchell simply assumed that the rich would behave the same way after the imposition of the luxury tax as they did before and the only difference would be more money in the government's coffers. They had a zero-elasticity vision of the world, namely that people do not respond to price changes. People always respond, and the only debatable issue is how much and over what period.

Walter Williams

2 posted on 08/18/2009 6:07:44 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: sr4402

Costa Rica is nice I hear


3 posted on 08/18/2009 6:08:01 AM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: sr4402

The ones with all the money will be leaving.


4 posted on 08/18/2009 6:08:15 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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One of my associates emigrated to Australia. Last I heard, he was doing very well and felt very welcome there. He loves the place.

Another was a native New Zealander who simply went home. He had a green card but in his mind things had changed so much he gave up on being a naturalized citizen, which was his dream. Pretty bad when you think that NZ is by and large a fairly socialized country.

5 posted on 08/18/2009 6:08:40 AM PDT by chimera
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Some of these are airline pilots. Pilot training in the rest of the world sucks. The US produces too many pilots for here so there are occasional opportunities overseas.


6 posted on 08/18/2009 6:09:13 AM PDT by Western Phil
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How do they quantify people ‘leaving?’ Do they count those taking up citizenship in another country or those merely living outside of the US for a year or more?


7 posted on 08/18/2009 6:09:59 AM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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The US produces too many pilots for here so there are occasional opportunities overseas.

So are you saying that American Pilots leave America for piloting positions overseas? Are their any benefits to that?

8 posted on 08/18/2009 6:11:27 AM PDT by sr4402
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Since this happened in 2008 it is likely that the people leaving were liberal moonbats and people with BDS. To them Europe would be the ideal place to move. Freedom loving people really have nowhere else to go so we have to make a stand here and now.


9 posted on 08/18/2009 6:11:30 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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Where did they go? You have to read Ayn Rand to figure that out...


10 posted on 08/18/2009 6:12:13 AM PDT by GBA
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Probably a number of them going back to the middle east.


11 posted on 08/18/2009 6:12:44 AM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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Taxes may have something to do with it, though one’s destination probably depends on whether the person is in their ‘earning’ years or are retired. People still earning a paycheck may opt for somewhere more economically ‘free’
http://www.heritage.org/Index/Ranking.aspx whereas someone who is retired probably has a lot more latitude (no pun intended) in finding an agreeable place that is cheap to live in.


12 posted on 08/18/2009 6:13:49 AM PDT by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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It is economic freedom shown at the link, but property rights are the foundation of freedom.

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking.aspx


13 posted on 08/18/2009 6:13:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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To: sr4402
It might have been Jim Rogers who said:

In 1807, smart young people moved to London.

In 1907, smart young people moved to New York.

In 2007, smart young people moved to Shanghai.

14 posted on 08/18/2009 6:13:53 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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The wealthy saw the hand writing on the wall when the realized Obamessiah was going to be elected and they are leaving in droves for greener pastures to leave the middle class to clean up the mess and to pick up the tab that is left behind as a result of Obamessiahs socilist policies and utopian programs.


15 posted on 08/18/2009 6:14:57 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (hank you)
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To: listenhillary
They had a zero-elasticity vision of the world, namely that people do not respond to price changes.

Liberals have no idea how people respond to taxes and don't understand the law of diminishing returns. They don't understand that the rich have feet too.

Liberal Progressive Papers think Americans love taxes. That's one reason their readership are diminishing.

Liberals and Progressives are so Brilliant. They drive the rich away and expect things to get better.

/Sarcasm OFF

16 posted on 08/18/2009 6:15:04 AM PDT by sr4402
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then-Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell ...

Ironically, it was his own home state of Maine that took the brunt of this. His legislation pretty well sunk boatbuilding in the state.

I've had the displeasure of dealing with Mitchell on several occasions. He truly is an idiot.

17 posted on 08/18/2009 6:15:18 AM PDT by wbill
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Ireland is the place to go from what I hear.


18 posted on 08/18/2009 6:18:48 AM PDT by frogjerk (tagline pulled for verification)
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Eastern Russia, the new frontier...
19 posted on 08/18/2009 6:20:03 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: posterchild

Simultaneous post. I’ve never in my life seen that happen on FR.


20 posted on 08/18/2009 6:20:45 AM PDT by listenhillary (We became community organizers and Obama and the Statists get p*ssed off at us?)
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