Skip to comments.Voting with Their Feet (2000000 Americans Leave America)
Posted on 08/18/2009 6:04:33 AM PDT by sr4402
If that's correct, I can't think events in 2009 will do anything to diminish the flow. What I wonder is: Where did those 2 million go? Britons, Canadians, Europeans, etc, who seek "greener pastures" generally wind up in the U.S. For most of us immigrants, this is the last stop on the tour: There's nowhere else to go. So where on the planet do a couple of million Americans go to find somewhere "greener"?
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What happened? Kennedy and Mitchell simply assumed that the rich would behave the same way after the imposition of the luxury tax as they did before and the only difference would be more money in the government's coffers. They had a zero-elasticity vision of the world, namely that people do not respond to price changes. People always respond, and the only debatable issue is how much and over what period.
Costa Rica is nice I hear
The ones with all the money will be leaving.
Another was a native New Zealander who simply went home. He had a green card but in his mind things had changed so much he gave up on being a naturalized citizen, which was his dream. Pretty bad when you think that NZ is by and large a fairly socialized country.
Some of these are airline pilots. Pilot training in the rest of the world sucks. The US produces too many pilots for here so there are occasional opportunities overseas.
How do they quantify people ‘leaving?’ Do they count those taking up citizenship in another country or those merely living outside of the US for a year or more?
So are you saying that American Pilots leave America for piloting positions overseas? Are their any benefits to that?
Since this happened in 2008 it is likely that the people leaving were liberal moonbats and people with BDS. To them Europe would be the ideal place to move. Freedom loving people really have nowhere else to go so we have to make a stand here and now.
Where did they go? You have to read Ayn Rand to figure that out...
Probably a number of them going back to the middle east.
Taxes may have something to do with it, though one’s destination probably depends on whether the person is in their ‘earning’ years or are retired. People still earning a paycheck may opt for somewhere more economically ‘free’
http://www.heritage.org/Index/Ranking.aspx whereas someone who is retired probably has a lot more latitude (no pun intended) in finding an agreeable place that is cheap to live in.
It is economic freedom shown at the link, but property rights are the foundation of freedom.
In 1807, smart young people moved to London.
In 1907, smart young people moved to New York.
In 2007, smart young people moved to Shanghai.
The wealthy saw the hand writing on the wall when the realized Obamessiah was going to be elected and they are leaving in droves for greener pastures to leave the middle class to clean up the mess and to pick up the tab that is left behind as a result of Obamessiahs socilist policies and utopian programs.
Liberals have no idea how people respond to taxes and don't understand the law of diminishing returns. They don't understand that the rich have feet too.
Liberal Progressive Papers think Americans love taxes. That's one reason their readership are diminishing.
Liberals and Progressives are so Brilliant. They drive the rich away and expect things to get better.
Ironically, it was his own home state of Maine that took the brunt of this. His legislation pretty well sunk boatbuilding in the state.
I've had the displeasure of dealing with Mitchell on several occasions. He truly is an idiot.
Ireland is the place to go from what I hear.
Simultaneous post. I’ve never in my life seen that happen on FR.
God Bless America: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT.
Maybe they’re not filing.
Wow, even to the same second. We must be psychotic!:)
One of my neighbors went to Chile because his earnings there would be less but will go much farther than here. The job market for welders here is weak. Skilled labor will seek work elsewhere when the economy fails locally. Florida lost people, many/most are the construction workers who find themselves without work due to the housing bust. No new houses means, no plumbing workers, no tile worker, no cabinetry worker, no landscape worker, no rug installers, no sprinkler installers, no pool construction, no pavers, et.al. Lose jobs = lose people. You don’t have to be a Genius to figure that out.
After wealthy Americans leave the country to avoid oppressive taxes, who will pay for all the wetback’s medical bills, education etc.?
I guess milliseconds count. Your post showed up first.
The strong ethical, work oriented culture in America, has been largely destroyed by secular liberalism and socialist policies. The dollar is rapidly becoming worthless.
There is not a problem in this country that does not have the 'gubmnints' hands all over it. Further they won't leave us alone.
This last election indicates to me, that the USA will not survive an ignorant electorate. We can thank the goverment "school" system for that.
My wife and I are looking at the possibilities and problems of emigrating. At this point we feel very threatened by the nonsensical, stupid, and ignorant policies of the ignoramus' who inhabit the seats of government. These are foul people who, if they can, will strip us of every Constitutional freedom.
Lastly, they are about to kill the geese laying the golden eggs, i.e. entrepreneurial spirit, capitalism, and individual achievement.
Socialism is a great plan until you run out of other peoples money to spend. After that point, it pretty much sucks and then we will truly become egalitarian and misery will be shared by all.
My kids are both past state chess champions. When we talk about the hot issues in politics I tell them to think like a chess player. They need to think not just about their moves but about their opponents moves as well. Democrats do not do this very well.
Australia is a gun-grabber's socialist heaven. I wouldn't move there for anything. Also, the unions have really trashed that country. Somebody is always on strike wanting more tax dollars to line their pockets.
New Zealand is beautiful, but it is nearly impossible to immigrate into that country unless you are a native New Zealander like your friend.
Chile is very nice on my short list of places I would enjoy spending a few years working. Friendly people, modern first world capital city, healthy legal environment and good economic freedom, beautiful rural areas...
That works until Obama’s unelected, unvetted Pay Czar retroactively seizes past compensation of executives or Bill Clinton retroactively raises income and corporate taxes.
Double benefit to training in the US. If I'm not mistaken, the language for international flights is English, even if neither the country of origin nor the destination mainly speak English. (Anyone know if that's changed?)
If Obumbler care passes, you will see more leave(Dr.). If they dictate what they think you should earn, more will leave. Pretty soon the brown shirts will be at the borders to stop people from leaving. Just like Hitler did.
Back to Japan is always an option...
Where does one go? Well...I always thought the little two bedroom place that my folks went to in the Bahamas was a time share. My Mom died a little over a year ago and my Dad just turned ninety one and is in good health. When we were going over the estate I found out that they own that little place. They bought it over twenty years ago when prices were considerably lower. My wife died nine years ago and I’m ready to retire after thirty one years in post secondary education. We both have big houses that we don’t need, taxes that we don’t want, (no income tax in the Bahamas) and winters that we will remember but don’t wish to endure anymore. We’ve been transfering our money to the Bahamas a little bit at a time and talking about moving so....next Summer.
Of course, the political import of alleged increasing emigration is nothing new:
Just based on Obama's henchman, that's probably because they don't pay them!
I think those are illegals that left. Our stupid government counts them as citizens.
A steady paycheck, for one. A friend of mine from a former life actually started an agency to get American pilots for foreign airlines. The foreign airlines loved them because they were polite, efficient and saftey oriented. The American military trains our guys like that. Too many foreign locales train theirs to be hot dogs-- very handy when they are sent on suicide missions; not so handy when you are expected to convey a planeload of paying passengers safely from Point A to Point B.
These folks are fools and here’s why:
They are only safe where they’re going because they carried AMERICAN PASSPORTS and in the past, if they got in trouble, there was SOME expectation that the U.S. would move to assist them up to and including sending in the Marines with enough firepower to bail them out. Under the idiots now infesting Washington, that is no longer a safe assumption.
They would be better advised to stay home and do the hard work of turning out the idiot socialists in 2010 and 2012. If the American Constitution fails, the rest of the world will follow — INCLUDING where these LAZY COWARDS are heading!
There are lots of good options for retirees or if one has a business in the US that can be operated remotely via internet. There is probably a wide range of business friendliness in central america though. I was amazed at the number of people from the US that I ran into who run bed and breakfasts in Costa Rica. (Though there are supposedly weak property rights in CR.) Also hear that Panama and Belize are somewhat business friendly.
Not nearly enough of them.
The whole world is headed into a place that few would wish to contemplate, it doesn’t matter where one might try to immigrate(hide) too...
Sort of like it was in the USSR?
Just be sure you eat in a good resturant...