Armey: We're Marching on Washington Against Obamacare

NewsMax ^ | 8/18/09 | Rick Pedraza

[Sammy67]

Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey is organizing a march on Washington against the Obama administration’s healthcare plan that he hopes will finally finish off the Democratic push for socialized medicine.

The march, organized by Armey’s political group FreedomWorks, is scheduled for Sept. 12 and is already generating hundreds of thousands of responses, the Texas Republican tells Newsmax.TV. The group is isn’t providing transportation, but that doesn’t seem to be a problem.

See Video: Fomer House Majority Leader Dick Armey talks about the movement to defeat Obamacare

[nikos1121]

Why not merge with the Tea Party?

[Jack Black]

I deeply resent Dick Armey trying to co-opt the tea-party movement and make it his own. He is not our leader. Our own JimRob has done way more to drive attendance at the DC march, but you don't see him putting himself, or even FR, front and center.

The parade has started, and Armey is running like hell to get in front of it to lead it.

[madison10]

Why not merge with the 9-12 project?

[Jim Robinson]

I think he just did.

[tgusa]

We knew this was going to happen. If Dick Armey gets in front of the Tea Party Express, he’s road kill.

[domenad]

Oh hell yeah, I’m going to be there.

[Brookhaven]

I deeply resent Dick Armey trying to co-opt the tea-party movement and make it his own.
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I agree. I wish Dick Armey would just butt out.

This has been planned for a while (if you can call it planned.) Armey is just trying to take over something he didn’t create.

[domenad]

I understand your feelings, and I believe they are very valid, but the end purpose of the tea parties - namely the inevitable increase in taxation from government overspending - is served by defeating this healthcare mess. I have no doubt that Armey seeks to grow his organization through this action, but I’m not so sure that would be such a bad thing. Revolutions eat their young, as Voltaire said.

[ChinaThreat]

I’ll be there with a smile.

[Kimberly GG]

I will point out as well that Dick Armey’s FREEDOM WORKS is a PROPONENT of COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM, and the website is full of statements about their position, which is much the same as Bush/McCain/Palin...they all agree that their should be a path to citizenship for illegal aliens...using the economy as an excuse for a “path” form of amnesty.

It will be interesting to see what happens when Obama begins pushing the issue. If Tea Partiers oppose as they should, no doubt FREEDOM WORKS will no longer be ‘friend’, but ‘foe’.

[madison10]

:) Guess I meant “officially.”

[WKUHilltopper]

This is a “We the People” movement...not a leech politicians. This jerk needs to butt out and crawl back into his hole.

[nikos1121]

that’s what I mean’t. Doesn’t he know about it?

[murron]

He’s got some name recognition, and if he can kill this health care debacle, then I don’t care who does it, as long as it gets done.

[corvus]

Focus. Just keep the focus on groundswell. Just keep members of the public and their concern in front of any politician/bureaucrat. Choosing politicians can come later.

[rockrr]

Astroturf?

[TexasFreeper2009]

A smart politician always finds a large crowd moving in a certain direction and then runs to the front and says “follow me” !

I can't blame him.

What is so bad about a politician on our side helping us?

[WOSG]

lol. freedomworks has been involved in several prior tea party events. There are a LOT of different players involved in these evetns, let them all join the parade ... the more the merrier.

[ohioWfan]

There’s gonna be a LOT of us in DC on 9/12.

[Brookhaven]

Armey’s group will represent 1% (maybe) of the people marching, but to the press they will be 99%.

And yes they will be portrayed as astroturf.

[chimera]

The more people we have on board for this, the better. There is strength in numbers. The ‘Rats know this, and turn out the crowds. I don’t think it is wise to marginalize anyone at this point who would support our causes.

[ohioWfan]

Exactly.

We don't necessarily need to herd the cats. We just need a lot of cats to BE there and to share the same purpose - which we do.

This is going to be HUGH. :)

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Well said. Armey’s a hack.

[WOSG]

“We don’t necessarily need to herd the cats. “

It’s counterproductive to try.
It’s like me telling my sons to stop being so loud and rambunctious.

[McGruff]

freedomworks has been involved in several prior tea party events.

To late. They already hung Dick Armey on this thread.

[Brookhaven]

The Conservative Hand - A Manifesto for Achieving Conservative Political Goals

1. Condemn attempts to create any “official” free conservative movement/party/anything.

We’re using a free market model. Is there an official entity that represents/controls the free market? No. The free market is by its very nature chaotic and uncontrolled. Any entity devised to represent/control the free market would by definition destroy it. The same is true for free conservatism. Any proposal to represent/control/standardize free conservatism will more than likely be a veiled attempt to destroy it. Condemn it as you would condemn socialism.

This same rule can be applied to the Tea Party movement. By attempting to get in front of it and coopt it, Armey is attempting to control it. Eventually, that will destroy the Tea Party movement.

How long before Armey starts touting his group as the "official" Tea Party group?

[Antoninus]

I’d just like to point out that I am not nor have I ever been a member of the Dick Armey.

[ohioWfan]

LOL - I know what you mean.

There's really no point in worrying about what the media is going to do with this either.

They lie.....so they will lie about the numbers, they will lie about the purpose, and they will try to portray Army as some sort of puppet master who's controlling and financing the event (just as they've done before).

But they will fail. The American people will know better than to believe what they say about us.

Because we are not only right, but we have the might to overwhelm Washington and make the biggest noise conservatives have made in the history of this great country.

We must not divide ourselves in the process. It will only hurt us.

[TexasFreeper2009]

Um... so no elected official can be a tea party supporter, or attend or support tea party goals?

I am sorry but that is just a recipe for failure.

[Shelayne]

I want to be one of “us”, but I can’t. *huge pout* I think that my mom and dad might be going, though, and that is really something. (They live in AR) They were not overtly political until recently. If my dad is going, holy cow!

As Katy Abrams declared, they have awakened a sleeping giant.

[Zathras]

I checked the website and yep, more loonie stuff on imigration.

[ohioWfan]

This same rule can be applied to the Tea Party movement. By attempting to get in front of it and coopt it, Armey is attempting to control it. Eventually, that will destroy the Tea Party movement.

I don't see any evidence that Armey is either trying to "get out in front of" or "coopt" the Tea Party movement.

September 12th events in D.C. have been planned by conservative groups for months.

If he were trying to "get out in front of" it, then he's a bit late, wouldn't you say?

It looks to me like he's on the right side of the health care issue. Why oppose his faciliating several thousand more people to be part of the 9/12 event?

[Miykayl]

It seems important that, beyond discussing here at FR, that the public knows that Dick Armey is not the Tea Party Movement.

Folks at 9/12 should see folks near Mr. Armey with signs and arrows that say he’s not the Tea Party Movement or whatever... Like it has been suggested with ACORN plants.

Is that over-the-top?

And at the very least, it would be nice to know Mr. Armey was aware that real grassroots takes exception with his claiming leadership of something he had nothing to do with.

In his right spot, which is the same as ours, that is, a concerned American, he is and should be welcome...

It seems wrong that his statement would go unchallenged everwhere except here on FR.

[ohioWfan]

You can be a part of it by praying for all who are going, Shelayne. There is great power in prayer!

And good for your Dad. That old sleeping giant is rising up big time!

[Brookhaven]

I don’t see any evidence that Armey is either trying to “get out in front of” or “coopt” the Tea Party movement.
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Armey’s group is being credited by the MSM as being the driving force behind the Tea Parties. Where they got that idea, I don’t know. I do know Armey is making no attempt to dissuade them of that idea.

[WVKayaker]

same as Bush/McCain/Palin.

More lies being repeated from the left... and the wannabees!

...... Talk show host Laura Ingraham stated on her radio show that she spoke with Palin, who told her she was against "comprehensive immigration" reform. This view is in contrats to not only Obama and Biden, but McCain, as well. This means that she might help the GOP pick up votes from those who oppose "open borders" legislation. Ingraham: "That sells a lot more than 'my friends' and comprehensive immigration reform. And she’s not for comprehensive reform, I can tell you that right now. She’s sick to death of this immigration nonsense in the United States."- Sarah, 2008

Q: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 million undocumented immigrants? - Univision

A: "No, I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. We have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah, 2009

[Venturer]

I will be there,but I wont be smiling. I already have a car full going with me. All I did was mention I was going.

[ohioWfan]

Of course Armey's group is being "credited" by the MSM. They lie. It's what they do.

Armey had nothing to do with the vast majority of Tea Parties on April 15, but the lying MSM said he financed the whole thing (all 800,000 or so of us, I guess - he must be a really rich guy).

IMO, it is counterproductive to try to discredit or destroy an ally IN THIS FIGHT just because of what the leftist media says, and the fact that Armey isn't bothering to refute them. (Why should he, anyway? Would they even report it?)

He's bringing troops to this critical battle. Don't turn them back because you don't happen to like the guy.

We need to win this.

[Jim Robinson]

I don’t think Armey can coopt an army, but an army can coopt him. We (the grassroots Tea Party movement) wanted a March on Washington, he had one planned at FreedomWorks and we joined it! We got our march! It’s been planned for months and we’re now fully mobilized and ready to roll. Nothing is going to stop us now!

We need a huge protest in DC to fight against Obama’s Marxist takeover of America. I’m not going to quibble over who claims credit for getting it done. Let’s just get it done! There will be plenty of time to fight amongst ourselves after we win the war.

Woo hoo!!

Rebellion is brewing!!

DONT TREAD ON US!!

[Brookhaven]

True enough. But we must be vigilant that noone tries to use the movement for their own political purposes (which is the RINO way.)

[pabianice]

DC will cancel it for “safety reasons.”

[streetsmart]

I don’t think Armey can coopt an army, but an army can coopt him. We (the grassroots Tea Party movement) wanted a March on Washington, he had one planned at FreedomWorks and we joined it! We got our march! It’s been planned for months and we’re now fully mobilized and ready to roll. Nothing is going to stop us now!

We need a huge protest in DC to fight against Obama’s Marxist takeover of America. I’m not going to quibble over who claims credit for getting it done. Let’s just get it done! There will be plenty of time to fight amongst ourselves after we win the war.

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Thanks Jim for the input. I do have concerns that this revolt is not perceived as anything but what it is. “We the people standing up for our Freedom and Liberty”.

[ohioWfan]

Amen and AMEN!!

[SE Mom]

Excellent Jim!

The more the merrier:)

[Palladin]

I don’t understand your reasoning.

“We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately”.

~~Benjamin Franklin

[WVNan]

Amen. It’s amazing what can be accomplished when you don’t care who gets the credit. Anti-obama everything crowds in D.C. will count as bodies. That’s all that matters for this march. The MSM will hardly report it anyway, much less give credit to anyone except those “rightwing terrorists”. One battle at a time folks. For this one we need body count.

[Oldpuppymax]

I am unable to go, but I would dearly love to. Actual Americans MUST have a HUGE turnout at events like these.

[itssme]

We need to show up IN GREAT NUMBERS. Let’s hope all groups agree to unite and appear as a united, solid front...no bickering, folks...this is TOO IMPORTANT to blow on egos. We are in the right, and right is MIGHT.

[Kenny Bunk]

"No, I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. We have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides." -Sarah, 2009

Sorry. Not a good answer.