Skip to comments.Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others: Informant on Radical Right [Hal Turner]
Posted on 08/18/2009 1:36:41 PM PDT by Casaubon
"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest," Orozco said.
Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations
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Wonder what his FReeper name was?
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?
So how many more of them are out there? He was working during the Bush years..why wasn’t he trying to incite the left wing?
Well, it wasn’t Jim Thompson...or that other guy whatzitsname?
Strange story. Is it entirely certain that he’s not still working as an agent provocateur?
No doubt, right? There’s something wrong with a system of justice that incites violence so it can prosecute violence.
Hal Turner. He was banned years ago.
Video cameras and the internet will help us more than anything. It's always about intel. We just need to keep our eyes open and post it online wherever these quisling rats pop up. Like the bloggers in Alaska and the asshat in Alaska that kept filing ethics charges on Palin.
Two can play at these games... good for the goose, good for the gander.
Intel, Intel, Intel.. just keep posting and disseminate locations, names, backgrounds and especially relations between one group of lib rat-turds and another. The thing that criminal organizations like the democrat party hate is publicity. Let's keep giving it to them. ...like ACORN
People too this guy seriously? Hal Turner? I only saw people calling his show years ago and trolling him. I thought he was an @sshat.
This sort of crap was going on back in the 50s and 60s with the klan. I have no love for the KKK but why incite them to do something they may not do with encouragement?
The only reason I can think of is to use it as a means to change thinking and that is just plain wrong.
My first thought too...
Hal is missing a few cards from the deck. Why would they pick such a half wit?
What he did was entrapment had it been successful, afaiac.
Are you... series?
This is hugh!
If he worked Chicago, Ralm Emanuel has GOT to be involved.
If they are looking for an “agent provacatuer” it was probably “rabscuttle”.
2002-2007 - Bush years. And we thought Obama was a treat to personal liberty.
No, I’m not saying Bush was behind this. But it should be clear that big government can’t be trusted.
Seems like a long time ago I remember rumbling and rumors on the internet about him being a ‘plant’.
Sorry, I see that I wasn’t very clear. I meant to ask if it is certain that he wasn’t working for the FBI when he posted these things a few months ago. I think somebody like that is basically cut off and dumped if he blows it and gets arrested, and maybe that’s his case now.
Also, I have always thought that some of our more hysterical posters here are probably plants. I thought this particularly about illegal immigration, which is something virtually all of us oppose, but which they kept trying to focus solely on Hispanics so we would look like bigots because of the ugly things they said. Every time I hear somebody who’s really over the top, frankly, I think “agent provocateur,” dropping his line and trying to get a nibble.
There was another I suspected recently who has since joined the banned. He posted some crap about them killing my children so I would be justified in killing theirs first.
A real nutjob and I’m real glad he’s gone.
Wondering the same thing.
Was this the idiot that had the guy with the gun logo on alot of his posts?
like they do with the CIA..if you are caught..too bad..we deny you.
May be the same thing here - especially since it is a new administration.
Kind of odd that its a bunch of Democrats who end up getting arrested all the time
Post 9....Hal Turner.
Because there were massive elements within the FBI that were/are sympathetic to the left wing. They did their bosses no favors during the bush years - unless you realize that they thought George Soros their boss...
That comment was on the money. We should be afraid of what they’ll do. Suppose they send someone like him to the 9/12 march on Washington to change the energy of a peaceful but angry crowd into an agitated and angry crowd. It could go downhill very quickly if we don’t keep our heads.
FReepers, be wary of who is around you on 9/12. If they’re a little too susceptible to anger or agitation, be careful. Find out if others around you actually know that person. If not, point that person out to others so everyone can ignore him/her and marginalize his/her effectiveness.
And especially so if he/she claims to be a FReeper. You can find out if he/she is legitimate by asking questions that FReepers should know the answers to.
JimRob - As the convention gets closer are you going to offer tips and suggestions for dealing with obvious troublemakers?
So, Big Sis issues terrorist warnings against Conservatives and returning veterans. They want our neighbors to spy on us and report our "fishy" behavior (anyone not in agreement with Obama's policies). They train people to deliberately incite the right-wing online, so that they'll be arrested. They want to muzzle us on Conservative radio stations. They want Conservatives to FUND public radio (NPR, etc.). That want to ram health care down our throats (when our own private health care insurance works very well -- how about health care just for those that need it, not for those that already have it?).
Please add anything I've left out.
Whaddyaknow? I wonder who’s taken his place since he’s been banned?
I have no tips. Maybe someone else does.
We had some leftists try to infiltrate one of our events in Fresno a few years ago. A couple of our big guys successfully muscled, er, shunted them aside until the police arrived. No violence occurred and our event continued peaceably as planned.
I love you.
I’m sure that there are several people of the government persuasion on here. I remember reading DU one day (when I still bothered ugh) and a poster complained that the DoD pinged his computer as soon as he signed on. I imagine FR gets the same scrutiny.
“FReepers, be wary of who is around you on 9/12. If theyre a little too susceptible to anger or agitation, be careful. Find out if others around you actually know that person. If not, point that person out to others so everyone can ignore him/her and marginalize his/her effectiveness.”
Good Advice, BT. I grew up in the deep south during the fifties & sixties. These people were referred to as instigators then. I think they call them community organizers now.
Same principle applies. Send someone in from the outside, stir up the locals, then get outta town before the SHTF. Don’t want to be around when fingers start pointing, don’t ya’ know!
That was on a military thread when someone linked a photo from the DOD website.
Not the same thread that I was reading. (I don’t think) I was reading a General Discussion thread on DU during W’s first term. Can’t remember who the poster was. Anyway, it sounded like this was a frequent thing for him. I remember they said it happened often as soon as they signed on.
thats it yer on the list!!
BTW...i call dibs on my bunk when we get to Obamas re-education/concentration camp.
Now that's just too funny.
That’s what I suspect. Also, this admin is out to get us.
Realistically speaking, I’m sure there are extreme nutcases out there who can be classified, loosely speaking, as “right wing.” That is, they’re extremists but not statists, not followers of Marx or Alinsky, and instead are probably either way-out libertarians or followers of some cultist such as that Mormon polygamist flake.
They’re hardly typical, but on the other hand, I don’t think they’re really much of a threat. The assassins we have had have generally been either leftists - such as Lee Harvey Oswald, Russian and Cuban pawn - or Muslims - such as Sirhan Sirhan. Still, I guess it doesn’t hurt to keep an eye on the more bizarre groups of either right or left, under any administration. In practice, however, the leftist groups always get a break.
I think Obama and the gang have probably been trying to increase the agent provacateur activity in hopes that some incident will actually occur - or that one created by them can plausibly be attributed to us (or conservatives in general, at least).
Scary story, and I think you're right. Whenever I see anybody here say, "well, you know what I mean..." I think it's probably an attempt to get a few actionable words, if nothing else.
Wow! Did anybody else know him personally?
He tried posting under Hal Turner many times during the clinton years. I think Jim banned him for His racist postings.
The funny thing is, the most convincing argument against him being a plant was that he was too obvious and stood out too much. Except for the clothes, though, he looked like a stereotypical young FBI agent.
After all, this government does not consider us to be the 'boss' of them, quite the contrary.
We are the herd to be managed in their eyes.
And the few he had left were stacked erratically.
He was banned years ago
Bush’s Fault. It happened during his watch. And “Robert Swan Mueller III”. UFB! NO MORE RATS OR RINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And other parties to act in a manner so that DHS could classify them to be terrorists, I presume.
Someone in the FBI needs to burn for this one. Instead, they'll probably get promoted like Lon Horiuchi.