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Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others: Informant on Radical Right [Hal Turner]
ap ^ | KATIE NELSON

Posted on 08/18/2009 1:36:41 PM PDT by Casaubon

"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest," Orozco said.

Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied on radical right-wing organizations

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: fbi; halturner; newjersey; splc
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To: Casaubon

Seems like a long time ago I remember rumbling and rumors on the internet about him being a ‘plant’.


21 posted on 08/18/2009 1:48:30 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama: The Prevaricating Provocateur.)
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To: Casaubon

Sorry, I see that I wasn’t very clear. I meant to ask if it is certain that he wasn’t working for the FBI when he posted these things a few months ago. I think somebody like that is basically cut off and dumped if he blows it and gets arrested, and maybe that’s his case now.

Also, I have always thought that some of our more hysterical posters here are probably plants. I thought this particularly about illegal immigration, which is something virtually all of us oppose, but which they kept trying to focus solely on Hispanics so we would look like bigots because of the ugly things they said. Every time I hear somebody who’s really over the top, frankly, I think “agent provocateur,” dropping his line and trying to get a nibble.


22 posted on 08/18/2009 1:49:17 PM PDT by livius
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To: pissant

There was another I suspected recently who has since joined the banned. He posted some crap about them killing my children so I would be justified in killing theirs first.

A real nutjob and I’m real glad he’s gone.


23 posted on 08/18/2009 1:52:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

Wondering the same thing.


24 posted on 08/18/2009 1:53:02 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cripplecreek

Was this the idiot that had the guy with the gun logo on alot of his posts?


25 posted on 08/18/2009 1:54:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: livius

like they do with the CIA..if you are caught..too bad..we deny you.

May be the same thing here - especially since it is a new administration.


26 posted on 08/18/2009 1:56:34 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Casaubon

Kind of odd that its a bunch of Democrats who end up getting arrested all the time


27 posted on 08/18/2009 1:59:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: pgkdan

Post 9....Hal Turner.


28 posted on 08/18/2009 1:59:58 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: RummyChick

Because there were massive elements within the FBI that were/are sympathetic to the left wing. They did their bosses no favors during the bush years - unless you realize that they thought George Soros their boss...


29 posted on 08/18/2009 2:03:14 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: RummyChick; Jim Robinson

That comment was on the money. We should be afraid of what they’ll do. Suppose they send someone like him to the 9/12 march on Washington to change the energy of a peaceful but angry crowd into an agitated and angry crowd. It could go downhill very quickly if we don’t keep our heads.

FReepers, be wary of who is around you on 9/12. If they’re a little too susceptible to anger or agitation, be careful. Find out if others around you actually know that person. If not, point that person out to others so everyone can ignore him/her and marginalize his/her effectiveness.

And especially so if he/she claims to be a FReeper. You can find out if he/she is legitimate by asking questions that FReepers should know the answers to.

JimRob - As the convention gets closer are you going to offer tips and suggestions for dealing with obvious troublemakers?


30 posted on 08/18/2009 2:06:44 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Casaubon
The FBI is trying to incite the citizens so that they can be arrested??!! Is there anything more that our government can do to the hated right-wing? Maybe that's what those internment camps they're advertising for are about. (I don't really believe that, but I could be wrong.)

So, Big Sis issues terrorist warnings against Conservatives and returning veterans. They want our neighbors to spy on us and report our "fishy" behavior (anyone not in agreement with Obama's policies). They train people to deliberately incite the right-wing online, so that they'll be arrested. They want to muzzle us on Conservative radio stations. They want Conservatives to FUND public radio (NPR, etc.). That want to ram health care down our throats (when our own private health care insurance works very well -- how about health care just for those that need it, not for those that already have it?).

Please add anything I've left out.

31 posted on 08/18/2009 2:10:03 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: DJ MacWoW

Whaddyaknow? I wonder who’s taken his place since he’s been banned?


32 posted on 08/18/2009 2:14:09 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I have no tips. Maybe someone else does.

We had some leftists try to infiltrate one of our events in Fresno a few years ago. A couple of our big guys successfully muscled, er, shunted them aside until the police arrived. No violence occurred and our event continued peaceably as planned.


33 posted on 08/18/2009 2:15:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: RummyChick

I love you.


34 posted on 08/18/2009 2:18:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Obama--POtuS.)
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To: pgkdan

I’m sure that there are several people of the government persuasion on here. I remember reading DU one day (when I still bothered ugh) and a poster complained that the DoD pinged his computer as soon as he signed on. I imagine FR gets the same scrutiny.


35 posted on 08/18/2009 2:19:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“FReepers, be wary of who is around you on 9/12. If they’re a little too susceptible to anger or agitation, be careful. Find out if others around you actually know that person. If not, point that person out to others so everyone can ignore him/her and marginalize his/her effectiveness.”

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Good Advice, BT. I grew up in the deep south during the fifties & sixties. These people were referred to as instigators then. I think they call them community organizers now.

Same principle applies. Send someone in from the outside, stir up the locals, then get outta town before the SHTF. Don’t want to be around when fingers start pointing, don’t ya’ know!


36 posted on 08/18/2009 2:28:17 PM PDT by hotshu (Keep the Faith, that will be the only thing 0bama doesn't try to steal from us.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

That was on a military thread when someone linked a photo from the DOD website.


37 posted on 08/18/2009 2:29:55 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: darkangel82

Not the same thread that I was reading. (I don’t think) I was reading a General Discussion thread on DU during W’s first term. Can’t remember who the poster was. Anyway, it sounded like this was a frequent thing for him. I remember they said it happened often as soon as they signed on.


38 posted on 08/18/2009 2:37:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Casaubon
I'm going to try to make this brief. A person I work with and several others organized a meeting a few months ago to talk about the policies coming out of Washington. This was even before the Tea Parties. I went to the first meeting they had. Everyone there was middle class and casually but decently dressed. When comments were taken, most of the people who spoke were slightly nervous and had a somewhat difficult time getting their point across, except for one. He was a clean cut young man (mid to late twenties) who claimed to be ex-Army. He walked around as he spoke and was very comfortable with public speaking. He was dressed in black jeans with a black tee shirt with cut off sleeves. His point was that maybe it was past time talking about problems and that it was time to take more aggressive action. He didn't come out and say what the action was, but he implied enough that everyone knew what he meant. His ideas were quickly dismissed by everyone at the meeting. It is my sincere belief that this guy was a plant by law enforcement to see if anyone would bite on what he said.
39 posted on 08/18/2009 2:38:50 PM PDT by suthener
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

thats it yer on the list!!

BTW...i call dibs on my bunk when we get to Obamas re-education/concentration camp.


40 posted on 08/18/2009 2:43:47 PM PDT by Casaubon (Internet Research Ninja Masta)
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