Skip to comments.Attorney: FBI Trained NJ Blogger to Incite Others(Hal Turner-Government Informer!!)
Posted on 08/18/2009 2:33:06 PM PDT by NetLiberty
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) - A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges was trained by the FBI on how to be deliberately provocative, his attorney said Tuesday.
Hal Turner worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an "agent provocateur" and was taught by the agency "what he could say that wouldn't be crossing the line," defense attorney Michael Orozco said.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Abolish the FBI. Nothing but a bunch of crooked, creeping busybodies.
Holy entrapment, Batman, set the kitties alert status to plaid if they’re gonna be pulling that kind of carp.
“Word—and warning—to the wise, and to all of us here on FR.”
Nothing to worry about...we’ve already been “flagged” and “phished” I am sure...I know I have personally indulged in self-flagulation...as far as provocateurs go...don’t we already have them?
jess, who isn’t sure what to make of provocateurs...
I wonder what his FR screen name is.
No difference because the other 50% were trolls from the Southern Poverty Law Center, ACORN and the White House ... I'll bet "flag" was shut down because all the "hate" stuff in the US is generated by left wing groups trying to discredit right wing groups. And I'm not kidding about that...
He might have several... He's the hothead who "can't take it anymore" and the person who wants you to pray for his second cousin's cat.. ( stops real communication between us) . Or he's the second one on a post who "cast doubt"... so many troll tactics...
Hal Turner. Banned too.
His screen name was Hal Turner. He was banned.
This disclosure should be more dangerous to Turner than a Federal prosecution. Nobody likes a rat.
Hal Turner, aka "Hal from North Bergen", was a regular caller on the Bob Grant Show ages ago when Bob was on WABC, before moving to WOR.
My knowledge of Hal comes once-removed. I know someone else who started a talk show on a local station in Northern New Jersey. This guy was paying for the airtime, mind you. He invited Hal, Frank from Queens and John from Staten Island to be the regular panel to talk about the issues.
It got a bit heated, and there was friction with the studio, and my friend suggested to Hal that he should take a week off. Hal suggested that the guy paying the bills should take a week off. Yeah. Hal was gone after that.
The damage was done, however, and the station pulled the plug not long after. Frank and John went on using the name "The Right Perspective" on the Internet.
Hal was a piece of work.
He had a FR account, briefly, years ago. (Early 2000s, maybe). If he's used it since then, I've been lucky and missed his rants.
He was banned. :-)
Church Committee Oversight Uncovered FBI Spying on Innocent Americans
In the early 1970s, revelations about the FBI spying on innocent Americans shocked the
country. Led by Senator Frank Church, Congress thoroughly investigated allegations of
FBI abuses and made recommendations to prevent further abuse. What the Church
Committee found was breathtaking.
From the 1950s through the early 1970s, the FBI and other intelligence agencies launched
various domestic programs to spy on Americans. Political dissidents, anti-war activists,
civil rights activists, groups from the left to the right were infiltrated, disrupted, and
harassed, often for nothing more than exercising their First Amendment rights.2 For
example, government agents infiltrated the Womens Liberation Movement.
sources reported on the formation of the Conservative American Christian Action
Council, and even collected information about the anti-Communist John Birch
3 The NAACP was investigated to determine if it had connections with the
Communist Party. In the first year of the investigation, the FBI issued a report stating that
the NAACP had a strong tendency to steer clear of Communist activities. No
evidence was ever adduced by the FBI to rebut this report, yet the FBI investigation
continued for a total of twenty-five years.4
Warning PAAALEEEZE. It is just a matter of acceptance that everyone that posts here gets the’s a once or twice over by the Alphabet agencies.
Until there is a Constitutional Convention that strips Americans of the Right to Free speech, they better leave us alone. I have been on FR since 96-97-98 can’t remember the exact year, but everyone that has been here that long know the rules and WHEN the TROLLS are present.
This explains so much for me.
Why this guy was posting on white supremacy web sites and posting links from FR to these sites while observing the references to these sites by embedding the links.
These were old posts and appear to be from the time he was working for the FBI.
The guy was phishing to determine relationships between FR and these sites. Apparently he got nothing other than dragging FR’s Name through the mud by giving left wing Bloggers ammo.
This was a dirty trick by the FBI to Smear FR.
FR needs to come up with a tool to catch all of these links to sites like this so these references can be reviewed to make sure they are kosher. Never know when a hidden embedded link will become fodder for some left wing blogger.
FBI Inciting the mob to violence and Hal was a FBI Plant on FR, who would have thunk that no only we would get this story, the FBI would confirm it.
Do you remember that troll from D.C tht kept getting banned and would keep coming back with new names. It seems he only stopped when his name and address was posted. You know this guy isn’t the only one. I seem to remember one period where there was a concert attack by “neo-nazi,kkk” types. Wonder if they were part of this cabal formed by the FBI.
No I don’t, but you have been here from Mar 25, 2009 so how would you remember anything?
Sorry, anyone one that has joined since Obama landed gets more scrutiny.
You mean the stormfront idiots?
Sorry beat you, I had to change my screen name. I was under Marty60 from the beginning. Had to leave for a while due to family illness and death. So try taking a chillpill.
Have to ask, no prob.
Is that who was behind that filth. I’m so glad Jim was 10 steps ahead of them.
I remember when we used our e-mail addresses, how long did that last a couple of months. I know it got hairy with direct e-mails from the scum.
I don't remember getting any emails when our addy's were included but then in the beginning I read more that I posted. I was sure that everyone was waaaaaaaay smarter than me. Now I know they are but they let me talk anyway. LOL
You can’t get into your old name? You should contact a Mod and see if they can help.
I had lost some of my files , no password. Had to change it, I contacted Jim but it’s fine. I just miss the kind of personal (for internet) connection I lost. Especially from long time people I respect.
That’s a shame. Really. Have you thought of putting your old handle in your tagline spot? Then more people would recognize you.
Thanks for the suggestion ...never thought of that...
Way beyond "flag" ....
Hal Turner in being held without bail.
link is here
The greater likelihood is that the radical guy you are talking to is working for the Fedgov.
Much wisdom in your posting, there seems to me to be a lot of enthusiastic melodramatic sensationalistic "theater" going on nowadays -- and I sometimes wonder how much of it consists of intentional attempts to enflame & ensnare & entrap elsewise innocent naive individuals.
Do you happen to believe, as many have posited, that our country is on the brink of a civil war?
All the worlds a stage - and all the men and women merely work for the government?
No, not at the brink.
I have studied to much history to think that.
That's really difficult to imagine.
Some of my friends seriously believe that something 'ODD' will occur, some type of "wild card" event, out of the sky blue, utterly unexpected will occur - which will radicalize the population into separate groups who then fight eachother, on a large scale like outright civil war, but I total disagree.
Certainly, as you suggest, historically speaking, there would have to be many many many more factors at work to bring a huge nation, comprised of so many different groups & interests, to the ACTUAL brink of civil war.