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Obama's parents didn't live at newspaper birth address
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 18, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 08/18/2009 6:38:14 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Additional documents uncovered by WND support a previous report that President Obama's parents did not live together as husband and wife at the Honolulu address listed in birth announcements in two local newspapers.

Both newspapers, the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin, carried the announcement that Barack Obama Jr. was born Aug. 4, 1961, to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, residing at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.

Moreover, Mr. and Mrs. Obama apparently did not live together after their marriage, with Dunham evidently remaining in the rented 6085 Kalanianaole Highway house.

Barack Obama Sr. lived alone at an 11th Avenue address in Honolulu, closer to the university. Dunham left Hawaii for Seattle in August 1961, the month of Barack Obama Jr.'s birth, to study at the University of Washington.

WND can find no listing in the Polk directories to document Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. ever living at the same address.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; imom; mystery; mysteryman; naturalborn; obamafamily; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma
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1 posted on 08/18/2009 6:38:14 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Par for the course with this “transparent” President.

Oh, if we could only put him under a truth spell. What doozies he would tell us about.


2 posted on 08/18/2009 6:40:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (When did it become the Democrat You-Shut-Up-And-Listen-To-Me Tour?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

so now there is proof that the Dunhams were at that address?


3 posted on 08/18/2009 6:42:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RobinMasters

This crushes another one of the final pillars of protection that the leftists have been leaning on for the last 16 months.

There aren’t many that are left in tact, all have taken damage, including the BO website version 14 months ago that has been smack-down proven to be an abject fake.


4 posted on 08/18/2009 6:44:00 PM PDT by HighWheeler (The higher the concentration of libs, the bigger the tragedy that follows.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Got any Sodium Pentothal?


5 posted on 08/18/2009 6:45:39 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: RummyChick

yeah....if this is true, it is probably Obama was born in Hawaii. His mom probably living with the grandparents.


6 posted on 08/18/2009 6:47:57 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

I think it’s likely that there are problems with the birth certificate.

Even if he was born in Hawaii, it’s possible that the hidden birth certificate shows something embarassing. Such as : his parents not being married, his name being “Barry Dunham” or something other than Barack Obama, the father’s name on the certificate being blank, or something else that he doesn’t want the world to know about.


7 posted on 08/18/2009 6:53:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Always Right

I wouldn’t go that far...back then..she could very well have been sent to a home for unwed mothers.

however, it puts to rest the claim that the announcement couldn’t possibly be right because no one associated with them lived there.

It might be interesting to see how they afforded such a place, etc.


8 posted on 08/18/2009 6:54:51 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: HighWheeler
including the BO website version 14 months ago that has been smack-down proven to be an abject fake.

Not to mention that on his FaceBook page it says he is 52 years old, not 48

9 posted on 08/18/2009 6:55:40 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: RobinMasters; Chief Engineer

Woah, now, this doesn’t jibe at all with the research, with sources, done right here on FR, and elsewhere. I’m recalling FReeper Chief Engineer was one of the main researchers (or a SN with “engineer in it, sorry if it’s not you, CE). The house was for sale and vacant, and then the Lefforges bought it, before Obama was reportedly born. There was even speculation that Madelyn Dunham was aware of the vacancy through her position in the mortgage department at the bank, and that she must have thought it a “safe” address to use for the announcement that she initiated herself.


10 posted on 08/18/2009 6:56:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Dilbert San Diego

A member on Ancestry.com actually has Frank Marshall Davis listed as one of Stanley A. Dunham’s husbands. No marriage date given, no source for the information.


11 posted on 08/18/2009 6:56:49 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: RegulatorCountry

Could mom have lived in the cottage in the back. Is it a separate address or the same? Any phone bills and such?


12 posted on 08/18/2009 7:00:21 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport, and school records.)
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To: RobinMasters

STRANGE....some kenyans dont claim babies


13 posted on 08/18/2009 7:05:39 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: texas_mrs

I don’t understand their finances. This house was suppose to have been an expensive house. Where did they get the money? If they had so much money...why didn’t they help Ann go with Sr to Harvard?

I don’t think they were ever really married. I think they had to come up with a plan for a black baby, claimed she married Obama Sr..and then she divorced him later making everything look legitimate.

there is nothing to show there was any kind of marital relationship between those two. Jr doesnt look anything like Sr.


14 posted on 08/18/2009 7:05:47 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RobinMasters

does this place them on the island at the time of Obama’s birth?


15 posted on 08/18/2009 7:06:16 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Dilbert San Diego

is this saying that he was born in hawaii


16 posted on 08/18/2009 7:08:24 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: RobinMasters

Good work by WND. The only “news” outlet that seems to pay for investigative reporting anymore


17 posted on 08/18/2009 7:10:35 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: texas_mrs

Maybe Obama’s father is Frank Marshall Davis and Obama’s mother went thought a sham marriage to Barrack Obama Sr. because Davis was already married. In 1961, there was still a social stigma about children born out of wedlock.

Plus, Barrack Sr. would get a American family which would have helped him stay in America. Barrack Sr. was in America on student visa at the time of Barrack’s birth.

That’s just a theory but it makes as much sense as anything else.


18 posted on 08/18/2009 7:10:56 PM PDT by Ticonderoga34 (Free Obama's Birth Certificate!)
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To: RummyChick

The way I read it, her parents owned the house and were renting it to her, or renting her a room.


19 posted on 08/18/2009 7:12:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: UCANSEE2

No, the parents lived there. Ann did too, I reckon due to her young age. The owners, the Leforges, purchased it in 1958.


20 posted on 08/18/2009 7:14:27 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LucyT

more info PING


21 posted on 08/18/2009 7:14:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dalebert
is this saying that he was born in hawaii?

It's saying that his mother gave her parent's address for use on the birth certificate, and that she lived there(rented?) afterwards.

22 posted on 08/18/2009 7:15:37 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: Ticonderoga34

Perhaps obama was offered something from someone to participate in the sham.

I don’t think he intended to stay in America. He wanted the education and then he was off to Kenya to radically change the country.

Odinga, who caused all the uproar in Kenya with Obama’s help, had a father that was VP back then.


23 posted on 08/18/2009 7:16:20 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RobinMasters

marking...


24 posted on 08/18/2009 7:16:34 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: pissant; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...

Thanks, pissant.

... now, back to work.


25 posted on 08/18/2009 7:17:38 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: UCANSEE2

No, the University Professor owned it, but apparently was staying elswhere. It would be interesting to see where he was at the time.

The owner had ties with a Congress Critter.

This whole story about the house just adds fuel to my speculation that the CIA was involved with that family.


26 posted on 08/18/2009 7:19:26 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: UCANSEE2

thought there was no birth certificate?

do they have on now?


27 posted on 08/18/2009 7:21:25 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Always Right

then where is birth cert?


28 posted on 08/18/2009 7:22:35 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The questions should focus on his relationship with Lolo Soetoro.

Was he adopted and did he get Indonesian citizenship at any point. Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship. Did Barry Soetoro ever lose his American citizenship for any reason, even though no fault of his own.

Personally, I think it’s unlikely that anything will ever turn up, but as you said, there is something that BHO doesn’t want the American people to see.


29 posted on 08/18/2009 7:22:44 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: RummyChick

thought the grandparent lived there


30 posted on 08/18/2009 7:23:25 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: YellowRoseofTx

Yes and the age difference is newly posted on that sight. Last week it was posted at 48. Go figure why the profile page has changed on his age.


31 posted on 08/18/2009 7:23:32 PM PDT by classified
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To: UCANSEE2

most people dont rent there kids rooms, the kids live with them...aside from that i put an birth announcement in the local news paper when my grandson was born in another state and forgot to list where he was born. it was published that way.


32 posted on 08/18/2009 7:26:38 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: All; Always Right

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NEVER FORGET

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Excerpt from GLOBE Magazine, August 17, 2009 Issue - Pages 34-35:

But now the focus has shifted to Canada. The theory is that OBAMA’s mother went back to her Seattle-area home before the birth and slipped over the border to have her son in Vancouver because she fgured her Kenyan-falthered child would have an easier time if he had both U.S. and Canadian passports.

“But when she found out OBAMA Sr. had another wife, she chose to coneal BARACK’s Canadian birth and registered him in Hawaii as a U.S. citizen to prevent OBAMA Sr. from possibly taking him away on his Kenyan Passport,” explains Canadian political broadcaster BRIAN BARRON.

.

NEVER FORGET

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33 posted on 08/18/2009 7:27:17 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: dalebert

grandparents lived there..didn’t own it..according to WND.

Did they pay rent?

Maybe they were allowed to stay there for free.

Where were the owners?

Who financed the purchase?

Interesting questions that might tell a tale.


34 posted on 08/18/2009 7:27:51 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: pissant

That may be true. I was referring to what the article tried to infer as fact.

And the article is difficult to follow, as it is written is a rather chaotic order.

The Leforges (lefforges?) purchased it in 1958, but didn’t live there til 1963.

They may have rented it to the Dunham’s, who may have let their daughter stay there just around the birth of Barry what’shisname..


35 posted on 08/18/2009 7:27:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: RummyChick
I agree. The whole scenario and the constant moving of information has the scent of the CIA all over it.
36 posted on 08/18/2009 7:28:43 PM PDT by classified
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To: UCANSEE2

so there is a US birth certificate?


37 posted on 08/18/2009 7:29:19 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: RummyChick

i remember reading somewhere, that some unwed moms without getting married, just claimed a name as their deceased husband. obviously before the net, and the IRS knowing everything about you, it would have been a lot easier to make it up.


38 posted on 08/18/2009 7:32:18 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: dalebert
do they have on now?

The best that modern technology and lots of money can make.

39 posted on 08/18/2009 7:33:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: classified
Go figure why the profile page has changed on his age.

I'm sure it was O or his obots throwing up another smoke screen to add to the confusion and speculation about this birth certificate

40 posted on 08/18/2009 7:34:13 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: RummyChick

Sure does appear that way doesn’t it?


41 posted on 08/18/2009 7:34:30 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: dalebert
most people dont rent there kids rooms, the kids live with them

I'm not sure, from this article, whether her parents even 'lived' there.

42 posted on 08/18/2009 7:36:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

So Obama may actually be a Canadian.

That explains everything.


43 posted on 08/18/2009 7:38:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: LucyT

Bump Dat...


44 posted on 08/18/2009 7:38:21 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: dalebert
so there is a US birth certificate?

If there is, I don't know of anyone who has seen it, except for the Governor of Hawaii who only claims that she knows it was locked away.

45 posted on 08/18/2009 7:40:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Where's this tagline thing everyone keeps talking about?)
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To: RummyChick

Is it me or is WND muddying (?sp) the waters with each article? I used to have a pretty good handle on things until recently. Everything WND puts out is old news with their own spin...confuses the hell out of me.


46 posted on 08/18/2009 7:43:21 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (I piddy da foo if JimmyT zots you)
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To: classified

the other thing to consider is this:

Sr had a scholarship. He had to LIE on that marriage application to get married. He could have lost his scholarship and been booted out of the country.

So IF they did get married...who promised him that he would have no problems so that he would go along with the charade.

Let’s say the CIA was involved with the family.

Now look at Rahm’s family. There is a radical story there with his father being part of the underground. Likely has Mossad connections. Has the same last name as the man who identified Eichmann so he could be tried for War Crimes - though Rahm’s father supposedly claims they weren’t related. Non-relative went to Switzerland after Eichmann started making threats about the emigration scheme. Rahm’s father went to School in Switzerland. Stopped for a while to try to smuggle guns to the underground from Czech. Interrupted his training to become a medic in the 1948 War.

Rahm’s Granddaddy was a Union Organizer in Chicago...

So what are people that have been involved with the CIA and the Mossad or some equivalent...doing in power...and why such an Anti-Israel stance?


47 posted on 08/18/2009 7:43:38 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Always Right
IF... he was born in Hawaii and is still hiding the certificate, I'd think the most likely reason is that it undermines his story in Dreams of my Father, which is what vaulted him into Chicago politics in the first place.

If the book was a lie (and maybe not even written by him), then what else about him is a lie?

However, IF... he was born in Hawaii, then why is he also hiding his college records? Could it be that he was an American but still scammed the government by going to school as a foreign student by registering under a dual citizenship?

-PJ

48 posted on 08/18/2009 7:44:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (This just in... Voting Republican is a Terrorist act!)
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To: dalebert; All
is this saying that he was born in hawaii

No. Indeed, it's strong circumstantial evidence that he probably wasn't. Then and now the Hawaiian law regarding birth certificates provided that the original, basic birth certificate, the "Certificate of Live Birth," as all such documents were and are actually entitled, could be acquired either by: 1) being issued by a hospital or other birthing center and signed by its designated officials and the attending physician or 2) if he child was not born in a birthing center, by one of the child's parents filling out and signing the Certificate. In option 2) there was and is no requirement of notarization and no requirement of corroboration and independent verification. Hence, if the Illegal Alien was born in Kenya, it would have been a piece of cake for Madelyn Dunham to make him into a "natural born American" by completing a fake Certificate showing him born at the Dunhams' address, forging Stanley Ann's signature to it, and mailing it in.

Use of the Dunham address in the newspaper notifications indicates that's exactly what happened. Thereafter, all of the subsequent secondary documents, including the newspaper birth announcements and the "Certification of Live Birth," were legally produced, being based on the original fraudulent Certificate, without anyone having to do any other illegal acts (GIGO).

49 posted on 08/18/2009 7:46:21 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: UCANSEE2

i just looked at one that has no cereal number ,,,,the isued by obama handlers ...was there a virginia certificate also? and they kenya on has another man listed as fater....

and is his name barry or barak? where can i find his highchool and college grades?


50 posted on 08/18/2009 7:47:02 PM PDT by dalebert
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