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Protester carrying AR-15 at Obama Protest Rally in Phoenix was a Publicity Stunt
Talking Points Memo ^ | 8/18/2009

Posted on 08/19/2009 9:18:56 AM PDT by PhxRising

Ernest Hancock, the online radio host who interviewed the man with the assault rifle outside yesterday's Obama event in Arizona, today stated that the whole event was actually planned in advance. Watch the video below.

Hancock appeared on Rick Sanchez's CNN show this afternoon. After explaining a few details about the interview, including the tidbit that he's known 'Chris' (the man with the AR-15) for two years because of their mutual work for Ron Paul, the CNN host said "the more we look into this, the more it appears that it was really planned."

"Oh, it's more planned than you think," Hancock responded. He then let loose with a string of details, including how Hancock contacted the Phoenix police department days before the event and how he was partially motivated to do so because of the controversy surrounding William Kostric, the man armed with a gun outside of Obama's town hall in New Hampshire last week.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
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This was a planned out publicity stunt by Ernest Hancock, who is a Libertarian that runs the website www.freedomsphoenix.com and has his own radio show. Hancock and Chris, who carried the AR-15, are supporters of Ron Paul. Hancock planned this in advance to get publicity for himself and his website.

The MSM are such fools. They completely fell for this publicity stunt and were completely used.

1 posted on 08/19/2009 9:18:57 AM PDT by PhxRising
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To: PhxRising

If I may say so, it was a dumb publicity stunt, worthy of a Ron Paulite. If the purpose was to support the Second Amendment, then it was a really stupid thing to do.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 9:23:29 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Aren’t all protests a “publicity stunt.”


3 posted on 08/19/2009 9:25:31 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: PhxRising
The MSM are such fools. They completely fell for this publicity stunt and were completely used.

"I love it when a plan comes together."
4 posted on 08/19/2009 9:26:17 AM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Cicero
If I may say so, it was a dumb publicity stunt, worthy of a Ron Paulite. If the purpose was to support the Second Amendment, then it was a really stupid thing to do.

I couldn't agree more!

5 posted on 08/19/2009 9:26:23 AM PDT by JD91
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To: Cicero

I totally agree. How to totally destroy the credibility of the Tea Party/Town Hall protests one Ron Paul nut at a time.


6 posted on 08/19/2009 9:26:32 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: Cicero

My A.D.D. is starting to kick in. What’s the word?


7 posted on 08/19/2009 9:28:31 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: PhxRising

I wonder if Chris Matthews will do a week of shows explaining that his past week of hysterical, shrieking shows were based on a hoax?


8 posted on 08/19/2009 9:29:40 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: PhxRising

Have a black guy do it puts an interesting twist on it though. Not sure how it will be perceived, good or bad.


9 posted on 08/19/2009 9:30:01 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Resident Obama: Not a President, not a Citizen, living here but from somewhere else...)
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To: Vendome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edYQiZxyw0I


10 posted on 08/19/2009 9:30:43 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Vendome

Fster yet. That was less than a minute.

What gives?


11 posted on 08/19/2009 9:31:49 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: PhxRising

I would thnk they would have cleared it with the Secret Service.


12 posted on 08/19/2009 9:38:37 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
Funny.

Still I am unable to post without my posts being reviewed. This board is very fluid in it's communication to other Freepers but my posts have taken as long as 20 minutes to even show up.

I have asked the Mods what is going on and heard zip, nada, nothing.

Have you seen the following on your posts?:

“Thank you for your contribution. Your comment has been submitted for review.”

13 posted on 08/19/2009 9:40:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: freekitty

Ernest Hancock cleared the stunt with the Phoenix Police Department. I presume the Phoenix PD cleared it with the Secret Service.

Some people, who were part of this group, stated that they met up with a Phoenix police officer who then escorted them through the crowd.

The Phoenix Police were interviewed concerning this incident and said that they never viewed Chris as a threat.


14 posted on 08/19/2009 9:45:23 AM PDT by PhxRising
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To: Vendome

Couple of things come to mind. One is your IP may be connected to someone who has previously been banned. Or you have made a statement somewhere that sent up a red flag.


15 posted on 08/19/2009 9:49:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I went through all my posts and cannot see what is offensive. I don’t use crude language toward anyone but the only person I had any disagreement with was Jean S..

That leads me to believe that Jean S. is a Mod and has some problem. Would be nice to know as one adult to another what the problem is but, Jean S. is starting to look rather suspicious to me.

IF IT IS NOT JEAN S. ADMN MODERATOR, YOU SHOULD BE UPFRONT WITH YOUR REASON.

IF IT IS JEAN S. WELL THEN WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, DON’T WE?

BTW, my IP has nothing to with how they flag posters and I have been mobile for a few days anyway. It was a good suggestion though.


16 posted on 08/19/2009 10:02:54 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: PhxRising

bump and read -—(contrived gun issue)


17 posted on 08/19/2009 10:08:56 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Vendome

hoo Wah


18 posted on 08/19/2009 10:15:41 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: PhxRising
I find it interesting that someone peacefully exercising their lawful Constitutionally-protected right was orchestrated as a publicity stunt. I am also amazed at all the angst it has caused.

I would say that their plan was a success. They certainly got publicity.

19 posted on 08/19/2009 10:18:17 AM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. NRA, GOA, SAF, CCRKBA. FUBO.)
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To: Obadiah; Cicero

I have NO problem with it. More people need to carry, any time, any place. And if libs wet themselves over it, so much the better. Your attitudes are more like those lily-livered cowards afraid to exercise a RIGHT because you might offend someone who hates you already...


20 posted on 08/19/2009 10:35:04 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: aragorn

AFAIC, just because you have the right to do something doesn’t necessarily make it the best thing to do.

However, the MSM seemed to not be able to see any firearms carried by a number of Black Panthers who gathered in a protest in 2000 against Bush:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2009/08/18/media-barely-noticed-legal-gun-brandishing-leftist-black-panthers-2000


21 posted on 08/19/2009 10:37:41 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat

To complete the thought, when leftists legally carry firearms in public near the POTUS and it is not an issue with the MSM, yet when non-leftists do the same thing and it is an issue, then what, exactly, is the issue? It is certainly NOT the RKBA.


22 posted on 08/19/2009 10:39:36 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: dcwusmc

As an owner myslf, I believe there is a right time and a wrong time to make statements. This was inappropriate. It plays right into the corrupt MSM’s agenda to cast these protests as made up of crazy wingnuts looking to off the POTUS.

While you and I might not think it a big deal, I am quite sure the MSM and all of the other Obama supporters will use this for nefarious reasons — to our detrement.


23 posted on 08/19/2009 10:46:09 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: PhxRising

???

Of course it was planned.

???


24 posted on 08/19/2009 10:47:13 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches over Israel will Neither Slumber nor Sleep.)
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To: theBuckwheat
...legally carry firearms in public near the POTUS...

One thing I have not seen adequately reported (likely I managed to miss it somewhere) was exactly where the citizens were located with respect to the security zone around POTUS?

Seems to me that, in each case, they must have been outside that zone, or the Secret Service or local LEO would have intervened. One can extrapolate, then, that both the Secret Service and local LEO did not believe these folks to be a threat. Please tell me again, then: why all the fuss?

25 posted on 08/19/2009 10:47:36 AM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. NRA, GOA, SAF, CCRKBA. FUBO.)
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To: Vendome

I’ve never heard of FR software reviewing posts.


26 posted on 08/19/2009 10:52:14 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Scalp dem and hang dem up high" - Super Cat)
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To: Vendome

You are being monitored.........


27 posted on 08/19/2009 11:13:50 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Osage Orange

by who? Can’t be the Cherokee, the Pawnee or the Osage Nations.

We are friends.

Must be the cave dwellers of Arizona


28 posted on 08/19/2009 11:25:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Probably....

Or the Emmanual Bros.........

29 posted on 08/19/2009 11:27:08 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A community organizer cannot bitch when communities organize..... - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Osage Orange

well I guess I am suddenly and mysteriosly off whoever’s list.


30 posted on 08/19/2009 11:31:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

31 posted on 08/19/2009 11:34:53 AM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: Star Traveler; LucyT; MHGinTN; Vendome

Well I guess I am suiddenly and mysteriosly off whoever’s list.

Thanks for listening to my plaintive cries for attention.

Now let’s agitate and postulate some more.


32 posted on 08/19/2009 11:38:38 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

You said — Now let’s agitate and postulate some more.

As they say out on the street... “abso-dam-lutely”... LOL...


33 posted on 08/19/2009 11:51:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Let’s try this from Home.


34 posted on 08/19/2009 11:53:23 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Star Traveler

Okay. Fixed.


35 posted on 08/19/2009 11:53:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Star Traveler

Be back in a few hours.

Got a couple of quick appointments.


36 posted on 08/19/2009 11:54:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Cicero

You said — If I may say so, it was a dumb publicity stunt, worthy of a Ron Paulite. If the purpose was to support the Second Amendment, then it was a really stupid thing to do.

And being a publicity stunt, with it being cleared ahead of time and having a police officer right there, just a few feet away, knowing what the situation was (i.e., planned ahead of time and a radio interview “set-up”) — it takes away from it being “for real”...

What I would like to know is what would happen is about 100 people showed up all at once, with those over their shoulders... LOL...

Then you would see the *real story* on this issue... :-)


37 posted on 08/19/2009 12:00:04 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Deb

I made myself watch some of Matthews show last night, and he had Ron Reagan on. The two of them kept insinuating this man and the others were there armed to threaten the president. They should be embarrassed about their overreaction.


38 posted on 08/19/2009 12:00:28 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Great find. I remember that story, and I’ve been wondering how the media coverage of it would compare to media coverage of armed protesters today.


39 posted on 08/19/2009 12:12:20 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Obadiah; Neil E. Wright

No, I don’t think so. Not in Arizona, anyway. And I understand that a LOT of others were in the neighborhood carrying their pistols openly, as they have every right to do. This being the case, I think it should happen MORE often until people get used to seeing armed Americans walking freely and proudly down the street, exercising their absolute right to bear arms.

If the lefties and the MSM want to wet their panties ‘cause WE exercise OUR rights, just like the Black Panthers and other HOODLUMS do, too bad, so sad.

I’m pinging my brother ‘cause he lives in AZ and might have more light to shed.


40 posted on 08/19/2009 12:59:51 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: PhxRising
The MSM are such fools. They completely fell for this publicity stunt and were completely used.

That part is no news at all. lol

41 posted on 08/19/2009 1:18:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: dcwusmc
I think it should happen MORE often until people get used to seeing armed Americans walking freely and proudly down the street, exercising their absolute right to bear arms.

I do too. I don't care if it was a publicity stunt. He carried it lawfully and respectfully and that needs to be done until it is so passe that it wouldn't work as a publicity stunt.

42 posted on 08/19/2009 1:25:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: TigersEye
Coming up on Chris Matthews' show ... he's still got his panties all twisted about this. I guess he didn't get the Talking Points Memo telling him it was a stunt.
43 posted on 08/19/2009 2:15:57 PM PDT by onemiddleamerican
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To: Obadiah

Actually, I think it was a really good idea. You see, the SRM like to portray EBRs as capable of action all by their lonesome, and here we have a case where one was actually seen in public... and it didn’t leap to life and gun everyone down! It didn’t turn its owner into a blood-crazed killing machine.

All in all, I’d call it a win.


44 posted on 08/19/2009 5:07:46 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (All of my hate cannot be found, I will not be drowned by your constant scheming)
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To: dcwusmc
I have NO problem with it. More people need to carry, any time, any place. And if libs wet themselves over it, so much the better. Your attitudes are more like those lily-livered cowards afraid to exercise a RIGHT because you might offend someone who hates you already...

Agree, I don't like the Lindsey Grahams either. These fellows appeared to have acted very rationally and planning appropriately.

45 posted on 08/19/2009 6:27:23 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Freedom First in 2010)
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To: airborne

AYBABTU very nice


46 posted on 08/19/2009 7:19:15 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Vendome

ping the admin mod...


47 posted on 08/19/2009 7:45:48 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

Kissed and made up.

thanks


48 posted on 08/19/2009 7:59:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Gilbo_3; Vendome

He’s been let off of “double secret probation”.


49 posted on 08/19/2009 8:09:26 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: 2111USMC; Gilbo_3

LOL!

Free at last, Free at last!


50 posted on 08/19/2009 9:29:11 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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