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Ink found in Jurassic-era squid (150 mya squid "can be dissected as if they are living animals")
BBC ^ | August 19,2009

Posted on 08/19/2009 9:40:47 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: sr4402

Maybe it is Black Gold, Texas Tea. Well, the first thing you know Ole Ceph’s a millionaire.....


21 posted on 08/19/2009 10:00:27 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: brytlea

“organic matter”

“Dr Wilby, who led the excavation, said: “We think that these creatures were swimming around during the Jurassic period and were turned to stone soon after death. It’s called the Medusa effect.”

“turned to STONE”

So they reconstituted the fossilized “ink” with a liquid, and drew the picture. This is being completely misconstrued! It was STONE!


22 posted on 08/19/2009 10:02:04 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Red Badger
I haven't heard anything about DNA yet, although they have run DNA tests on the soft tissue of a supposedly 65 mya T. rex. They found all sorts of DNA, some of which belonged to bacteria, etc...but some of which the scientists labeled as "unidentified."
23 posted on 08/19/2009 10:05:32 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“The find was made at a site which was first excavated in Victorian times where thousands of Jurassic fossils with preserved soft tissues were found.”

Preserved soft tissues... these were stone also?


24 posted on 08/19/2009 10:06:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GodGunsGuts

“It would seem that finding unfossilized soft tissue supposedly tens to hundreds of millions of years old is becoming quite commonplace”

No it isn’t. So far it hasn’t ever happened. If you read this article, you’d have understood that they aren’t saying anything like you claim. This is just like your previous prevarications on other “soft tissue” posts.

Leave science to people who are qualified, and leave the lying to “creation science” - it’s all you folks know how to do.


25 posted on 08/19/2009 10:10:37 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Boogieman

“Preserved soft tissues... these were stone also?”

Do you know anything about fossils? Seriously. Do you know anything about them?


26 posted on 08/19/2009 10:16:01 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Boogieman

“Preserved soft tissues... these were stone also?”

Yes. Stone. “Soft tissues “ turned into stone. By conditions at that time that quickly covered the squid so that the soft tissue did not rot away. The “Medusa Effect.
http://tinyurl.com/lfyhb2
TURNED TO STONE.


27 posted on 08/19/2009 10:19:04 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“So they reconstituted the fossilized “ink” with a liquid, and drew the picture. This is being completely misconstrued! It was STONE!”

Friend, at best it is being completely misconstrued. These “creation science” people don’t know what they are talking about. They cannot understand that when soft tissues are fossilized, this is an unusual thing, and worthy of note.

Instead, they prefer, most likely because of their God-given ignorance, to assume that a fossil of soft tissue is actual soft tissue. Don’t be alarmed, the “creation science” cabal cannot be educated on this or any other issue - they are dumb as a box of soft-tissue fossils.

Let them come to the conclusion that all their “research” must come to - that “Therefore Genesis is proven correct”.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 10:21:18 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: GodGunsGuts

150 million.
Right.
sure.


29 posted on 08/19/2009 10:21:30 AM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: steven33442
The Bible says the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and that is good enough for me.

It would be good enough for me, too, if the Bible actually said or even implied that the earth was 6,000 years old. However, it doesn't.

Not only that, but God's revelation to us through his wonderful creation shows us that the universe is about 14.5 billion years old and the earth about 4 billion years old.

I'm sticking with God's revelation instead of a man-made age for the earth.


30 posted on 08/19/2009 10:23:35 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: RFEngineer
I did some further checking, and I will agree that there is some question as to whether or not the "soft tissue" is unfossilized. Although, they are saying that the soft tissue, whether fossilized or otherwise, is so exceptionally preserved that it can be "dissected." But even if the soft tissue turns out to be fossilized, one still wonders how the squid became fossilized in the first place, and by the millions, no less. Sounds like a massive, catastrophic flood and rapid burial (and not "poisoning") to me.

Here's an electron micrograph of the connective soft tissue of the body wall of a supposed "Jurassic" squid.


31 posted on 08/19/2009 10:26:39 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: RFEngineer

You are right! The specimens are just very interesting rocks!
From my link:
“Rapid fossilization of fishes and other animals in the Lower Cretaceous of the Chapada do Araripe, north-east Brazil, has preserved the most delicate structures known in the fossil record. Gills, muscles, stomachs and even eggs with yolks have been found. Interestingly, the material is not particularly rare, and specimens can be purchased from your local rock shop.”

“your local rock shop.”


32 posted on 08/19/2009 10:26:40 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: steven33442

“The Bible says the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and that is good enough for me.”

So, you believe it without all the made up science of the “creation science” movement? If so, you are something that all of “creation science” can never be - honest and faithful.


33 posted on 08/19/2009 10:27:41 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: GodGunsGuts

The Flood, you know it’s true.


34 posted on 08/19/2009 10:30:16 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: RFEngineer

The 6,000 year old number is from Bishop Ussher. The Bible does not say how old the earth is.


35 posted on 08/19/2009 10:31:10 AM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: RFEngineer

Which makes the 6,000 year old number non-scriptural.

Naughty boys, adding something to the Bible. Tsk, tsk.


36 posted on 08/19/2009 10:33:17 AM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: steven33442

The Bible says the Earth is only 6,000 years old, and that is good enough for me.
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Can you point me to chapter and verse wherein this is stated unequivocably?


37 posted on 08/19/2009 10:35:08 AM PDT by dmz
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To: RFEngineer
So far it [soft tissue preservation] hasn’t ever happened.

Actually it has, though it certainly isn't normal. Read this amazing story from Discovery Magazine.

Other than that minor issue, I do agree with you that a 6,000-year old universe is not supported by the Bible or by the scientific facts. One can a single study or a string of studies based upon the same supposition, but when so many experiments performed by such a wide variety of people in so many scientific disciplines lead to the same results, those results cannot honestly be disputed.


38 posted on 08/19/2009 10:37:40 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: dmz

There is no reference to the age of the Earth in the Bible.

The figure was derived by a Bisop Ussher, around 1800(?) so it is a fairly recent development in Christian theology.

Believers in this number used to be called “Ussherites”.


39 posted on 08/19/2009 10:40:09 AM PDT by texmexis best (uency)
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To: texmexis best; steven33442

There is no reference to the age of the Earth in the Bible.
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Which is why I asked Steven for chapter and verse, because there isn’t one. I was kinda hoping to hear it from him, though.


40 posted on 08/19/2009 10:44:45 AM PDT by dmz
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