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Jesse Jackson Jr: The public option would be as awesome as the post office
HotAir ^ | 08/19/09 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 08/19/2009 11:19:58 AM PDT by TimWallerston

A layer cake of stupidity, starting with the fact that this guy’s actually doubling down on one of the dumbest gaffes committed by The One since he took office. Parse his logic: If we didn’t have the postal service as an alternative to private carriers like Fed Ex, UPS, and DHL, what, oh what, would stop them from charging $100 per letter? Any theories, possibly involving basic economic dynamics and/or longstanding federal statutes? For fun, try putting the question to a fifth-grader and see if he comes up with an answer more incisive than Triple J.

To think, some people are worried that Obamanomics is based on a very, very deep misunderstanding of economics.

The proliferation of Obama’s gaffes and non sequiturs on health care has exceeded the allowable limit. He has failed repeatedly to explain how the government will provide more (health care) for less (money). He has failed to explain why increased demand for medical services without a concomitant increase in supply won’t lead to rationing by government bureaucrats as opposed to the market. And he has failed to explain why a Medicare-like model is desirable when Medicare itself is going broke.

The public is left with one of two unsettling conclusions: Either the president doesn’t understand the health-insurance reform plans working their way through Congress, or he understands both the plans and the implications and is being untruthful about the impact.

Neither option is good; ignorance is clearly preferable to the alternative.

Preferable, yes, but less likely. Exit question one: Who wants to break the news to Jackson that the money-hemorrhaging postal service has a legal monopoly on first-class mail, which, possibly, means we pay more to send a letter than we would if Fed Ex et al. were allowed to compete? Exit question two: If Jackson’s so worried about monopoly power over health care, why on earth would he support a public option whose creator openly admits that it’s bound to lead to single-payer? Again, is this ignorance or just dishonest spin?



TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; barackobama; bhohealthcare; democrats; gaffes; jjj; publicoption

1 posted on 08/19/2009 11:19:58 AM PDT by TimWallerston
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To: TimWallerston

Comedy can be found now-a-days in the darnedest places!


2 posted on 08/19/2009 11:22:34 AM PDT by downtownconservative (As Obama lies, liberty dies!)
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To: TimWallerston
LOL, I hope they keep using that comparison, as everyone knows and has dealt with the inefficiency of the USPS, except maybe our revered congressmen.
3 posted on 08/19/2009 11:23:23 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: TimWallerston

It is illegal for the competing carriers to deliver letters (apart from the overnight variety). And now the post office wants to restrict services to weekdays only. Why not take Wednesday off instead? Because then they can charge even more for weekend delivery.

And the Post Office now partners with Fed-Ex.

And STILL the post office is going broke.

How long would medicare last if the doctors couldn’t push off the rest of the bill on the insurance companies? Why do you think we pay $5 for a single asprin at the hospital?


4 posted on 08/19/2009 11:23:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: TimWallerston

They seriously think because they changed the words from government run to ‘public option’ people aren’t going to know the difference, there is no difference, its’ still government takeover of the health system. Well, we saw how well man made disasters vs. terrorism, went over...


5 posted on 08/19/2009 11:24:24 AM PDT by Freddd (Government run health care=paying more and being denied what we already have.)
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To: TimWallerston
If we didn’t have the postal service as an alternative to private carriers like Fed Ex, UPS, and DHL

Heck, we might not even have e-mail if it weren't for the post office....or was that Al Gore....

6 posted on 08/19/2009 11:26:21 AM PDT by Always Right (The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that)
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To: TimWallerston

J-Cubed has to support the big O, or that messy little issue re buying the senate seat will come back


7 posted on 08/19/2009 11:28:33 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: TimWallerston
Great! Were going to end up with medical staff running through hospitals with AK-47s shooting anything that moves...
8 posted on 08/19/2009 11:29:16 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: TimWallerston

dishonesty. Liberals can’t win by being honest


9 posted on 08/19/2009 11:29:49 AM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: Always Right

I got a letter yesterday from the census bureau demanding that I fill out my census. Too bad the letter was meant for a guy on the other side of town and was delivered to me by mistake. It was not even close! Why do I feel like the census is going to be just as misdirected as the post office?


10 posted on 08/19/2009 11:30:04 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: mrsmel

Don’t forget, members of Congress get free mailing (franking). To them, the PO looks like a great deal.


11 posted on 08/19/2009 11:30:07 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Freddd

or co-op. government run co-ops are not co-ops


12 posted on 08/19/2009 11:31:08 AM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: TimWallerston
Is he talking about the same Post Office that I have to wait behind a dozen people, half of who don't speak English just to pick up a parcel to large for my PO box?

The same Post Office that's folds in half the vintage autographed photo of Lana Turner that was clearly marked, “do not bend”?

The same Post Office that delivers mail to the wrong house?

the same Post Office that coined a new phrase, “going postal”?

The same Post Office that ask me if my wafer thin 8x10 shipping envelope I am mailing contains liquids or glass containers?

13 posted on 08/19/2009 11:31:41 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Freddd

Well, we saw how well man made disasters vs. terrorism, went over...
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Is there any doubt these clowns are Orwellian?


14 posted on 08/19/2009 11:32:11 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: Dixie Yooper
lol, Going Postal will become Gone Socialist
15 posted on 08/19/2009 11:32:13 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: TimWallerston

And THIS is the guy the Machine has selected to be the next Senator from IL? LOL!!


16 posted on 08/19/2009 11:32:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA
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To: Boardwalk
Why do I feel like the census is going to be just as misdirected as the post office?

Why do i feel the census is going to double the population of every major metro area.

17 posted on 08/19/2009 11:32:42 AM PDT by Always Right (The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that)
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To: ozzymandus

That’s what I was thinking (I just don’t know how much of their postal business is covered by franking).


18 posted on 08/19/2009 11:33:13 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: NavyCanDo

They did me one better— after I moved and rented a PO box from them, they began returning all my mail, credit card statements, bills, etc. almost ruining me before I figured out where my mail was going. When I told them, they just shrugged... not their problem. Then I had to let it go, or no telling what else would happen


19 posted on 08/19/2009 11:35:31 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: TimWallerston

I think our postal workers do a good job, but the price of a stamp takes into account the massive costs of employing tens of thousands perhaps hundreds of thousand workers along with their medical and worker comp benefits.

Privatizing the post office or a portion of it would save the gov’t and American billions of dollar and guess what, you’d probably be getting even Sunday mail if you wanted it.


20 posted on 08/19/2009 11:37:31 AM PDT by nikos1121 (praying for -13)
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To: Always Right

You can best believe that Hussein is getting ACORN geared up for 2010. They got away with black panthers intimidating voters at the polling place, they will now step up their efforts with complete impunity, openly and blatantly. You’d think that if our republican congressmen don’t give a hang about the people they purportedly represent, they’d at least care about losing their own power. These are some of the reasons that I don’t have 100% faith in the coming elections turning back the socialist tide.


21 posted on 08/19/2009 11:37:42 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: mrsmel

LOL, I hope they keep using that comparison, as everyone knows and has dealt with the inefficiency of the USPS, except maybe our revered congressmen.
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Right. They just get their congressional PO slush funds - why should they care? Remember that from the 1990s?


22 posted on 08/19/2009 11:39:43 AM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: TimWallerston

Jesse Jr. I guess the acorn didn’t fall very far from the tree.


23 posted on 08/19/2009 11:41:34 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: SeattleBruce

I remember the term “slush fund” and the brouhaha, but not the exact scenario. I will google it, unless you have the time to break it down for me :)


24 posted on 08/19/2009 11:42:34 AM PDT by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: TimWallerston

You know Doc, if the government ran healthcare like they ran the Postal Service ...

Cliff, you do know that you are sitting in a bar, in your USPS uniform at noon, right?

25 posted on 08/19/2009 11:47:53 AM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: TimWallerston
If we didn’t have the postal service as an alternative to private carriers like Fed Ex, UPS, and DHL, what, oh what, would stop them from charging $100 per letter?

Well let see.

For Fed Ex it would be UPS and DHL

For UPS it would be DHL and Fed Ex.

And for DHL it would be Fed Ex and UPS.

Pretty complicated, huh Jessy Jr?

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26 posted on 08/19/2009 12:09:52 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TimWallerston

That’s what we’re afraid of, numbskull!..................


27 posted on 08/19/2009 12:17:01 PM PDT by Red Badger (I am totally against spooning............it eventually leads to forking................)
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To: GeronL

co-op. government run co-ops are not co-ops
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It’s important that we keep continuously defining the Orwellian language so we know what we’re talking about.

Thank you.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 12:24:30 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: a fool in paradise

“How long would medicare last if the doctors couldn’t push off the rest of the bill on the insurance companies? Why do you think we pay $5 for a single asprin at the hospital?”

What have you been smokin’?

My good friend said the hospital in Santa Monica charged him $34 for a SINGLE aspirin.


29 posted on 08/19/2009 12:35:55 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: NavyCanDo

“Is he talking about the same Post Office that I have to wait behind a dozen people, half of who don’t speak English just to pick up a parcel to large for my PO box?
The same Post Office that’s folds in half the vintage autographed photo of Lana Turner that was clearly marked, “do not bend”?

The same Post Office that delivers mail to the wrong house?

the same Post Office that coined a new phrase, “going postal”?

The same Post Office that ask me if my wafer thin 8x10 shipping envelope I am mailing contains liquids or glass containers? “


You mean the same Post Office that said to me “Oh, Tokyo CHINA -— I heard of dat!!!”

And he was wearing a huge I LOVE MY JOB button.

My mother looked long and hard at that, and then slowly said,

“I’ll Bet!!!”


30 posted on 08/19/2009 12:39:36 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: TLI

“If we didn’t have the postal service as an alternative to private carriers like Fed Ex, UPS, and DHL, what, oh what, would stop them from charging $100 per letter?
Well let see.

For Fed Ex it would be UPS and DHL

For UPS it would be DHL and Fed Ex.

And for DHL it would be Fed Ex and UPS.

Pretty complicated, huh Jessy Jr?”


Very well put.


31 posted on 08/19/2009 12:42:06 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: SeattleBruce

If me, you and a few other FReepers paid in to buy a swimming pool, and shared its expenses, that would be a co-op. If the city owns the pool and lets everybody use it and forces me you and a few other Freepers to pay for it, that is NOT a co-op.


32 posted on 08/19/2009 12:43:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: GeronL

I belong to a co-op (our local telephone company) which has done so well that we get capital credits ($$$) at the end of the year.

The Feds idea of a co-op is more reminiscent of a black hole.


33 posted on 08/19/2009 12:52:17 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: wordsofearnest

There are rural electricuty co-ops too, these seem to work better than city systems in some ways, although when a line goes down it might take more time to find it in a wide open area. Not always though.


34 posted on 08/19/2009 12:57:43 PM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: a fool in paradise

I think I read somewhere that there used to be competition in mail delivery, until Congress legislated a monopoly for the USPS, which at the time was losing money due to too much competition. (Does anyone know if that’s correct?) Seems like an appropriate analogy.


35 posted on 08/19/2009 12:59:59 PM PDT by boomstick (I really underestimated the creepiness.)
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To: GeronL

An even better metaphor, definition. I tried using the metaphor of a growing economic pie with a liberal at the Rick Larsen (D) town hall last week - logic and logical metaphors drive them INSANE...it’s funny, actually, to watch the meltdown..


36 posted on 08/19/2009 1:00:27 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try TRAITORS.))
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To: 1000 silverlings

they just shrugged... not their problem.

Been to the post office lately? That’s why Jesse wants the hospital to be a reparations thing too.


37 posted on 08/19/2009 1:04:51 PM PDT by dusttoyou (IF YOU AREN'T AT THE TABLE, YOU'RE ON THE MENU)
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To: TimWallerston

We never use the US mail anymore. Everything’s done through the computer. Expect the govt to seize that next, and charge for email and electronic bill payments.


38 posted on 08/19/2009 1:05:26 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Rebellion is not brewing. Frog is brewing.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
My good friend said the hospital in Santa Monica charged him $34 for a SINGLE aspirin.

That's $0.05 for the aspirin, and $33.95 Shipping & Handling.

39 posted on 08/19/2009 1:15:37 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: TimWallerston

Life expectancy.

Not good news for Obama. He will remedy this statistic though with his Obama Death Care plan.

CDC says life expectancy in US up, deaths not
By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical Writer Mike Stobbe, Ap Medical Writer 36 mins ago

ATLANTA – U.S. life expectancy has risen to a new high, now standing at nearly 78 years, the government reported Wednesday. The increase is due mainly to falling death rates in almost all the leading causes of death. The average life expectancy for babies born in 2007 is nearly three months greater than for children born in 2006.


40 posted on 08/19/2009 1:21:26 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: TimWallerston

These crooks aren’t that dumb. They have to be doing this for a reason which has yet to be revealed. Wait for the other shoe to drop.


41 posted on 08/19/2009 1:41:44 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I never wait for the other shoe to drop or expect that it will.


42 posted on 08/19/2009 3:21:01 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Boardwalk

bttt


43 posted on 08/19/2009 4:46:39 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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