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Michael Vick, Rehabbed? Not Bloody Likely
Pajamas Media ^ | August 19 | Julia Szabo

Posted on 08/19/2009 1:04:19 PM PDT by AJKauf

Former Atlanta Falcon, now Philadelphia Eagle Michael Vick, fresh off Sunday’s appearance on 60 Minutes, sure has his loyal supporters, and they have surprising strength in numbers.

All seem to agree that Vick has done his time for running Bad Newz Kennels, his infamous dogfighting ring. So he tortured, maimed, electrocuted, drowned, and body-slammed a bunch of dogs. You want remorse for that, when other football players kill people? Leave the guy alone! Vick sat in jail long enough, he’s been punished enough, he deserves a second chance, now let him enjoy a full comeback to the NFL with all the benefits that brings.

Besides, isn’t one of Vick’s posse none other than the CEO of the Humane Society of the United States? Enough, already.

I’m no fan of Vick, but I’m trying to see things the way his fans do. And I’m actually starting to like the “he’s done his time” position. Because I can think of some others who’ve done their time and deserve a second chance: the dog lovers of Denver, Colorado...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: animalcruelty; nfl; rehab; vick
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1 posted on 08/19/2009 1:04:20 PM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf

The Humane Society was smart for coopting Vick instead of continuing to protest him. They’d seem pretty petty and impotent in trying fruitlessly to prevent Vick’s return to the NFL. Instead they scored a poster boy for ending animal rights abuses, while seeming moderate and reasonable in the process. In this manner they can establish themselves as a sane group that can be worked with, unlike, say, PETA.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 1:07:47 PM PDT by Devils Avocado
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To: AJKauf

Vick served more time than most people who commit assults against people. He served his time. Get off of his back.

PETA can stick it with their defamation campaign.
HE SERVED HIS SENTENCE. Just because he don’t say the right things that the animal rights PETA pets think he should be saying. Get off his back. He served his time.


3 posted on 08/19/2009 1:09:26 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: AJKauf
I'm sure Ms. Szabo feels equally strongly that, should she be convicted of a felony, and serve her time for it, that she shouldn't be allowed to get paid for writing anymore, after she has done her time. I'm not here to defend Mr. Vick or his actions. But what are the "anti-Vick" crowd suggesting? Sending him to a leper colony?

I fail to have an issue with a convicted felon seeking honest work, and finding it, upon his release from prison.

4 posted on 08/19/2009 1:10:40 PM PDT by squidly
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To: o_zarkman44

I couldn’t agree more. I live in the area and have been sickened by this coverage on the local news. There would probably have been less if he had been convicted for manslaughter.


5 posted on 08/19/2009 1:11:09 PM PDT by twigs
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To: AJKauf

I very much doubt that Vick is sorry for anything other than the fact that he got caught. That said, he probably does some good as a spokesman, however insincere.


6 posted on 08/19/2009 1:11:19 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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To: Devils Avocado

Yeah, right. That’ll work out well for the Humane Society when Vick is again caught involved in animal abuse. Anyone out there really believe Vick learned his lesson? Or, was he just sorry he was caught??? I vote the second option. I’m still trying to understand how someone convicted of those charges only received 18 months. I’d be in jail for a lot longer period of time you can be sure of that.


7 posted on 08/19/2009 1:11:36 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: AJKauf
These folks are so stupid. They had to make a big deal out of it. If they were smart they would have just quietly put him on the team and the first anyone wouldhave heard of it would have been when the ESPN guy asked, "Who is that on the bench?" Let his warm the benc a while at a fraction of the salary and then when the fuss dies down play him and pay him accordingly. But no, they had to be too smart by half.

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8 posted on 08/19/2009 1:12:58 PM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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To: SoldierDad

He wasn’t convicted, he plead guilty, and actually got a longer sentence than his non-celebrity cohorts.


9 posted on 08/19/2009 1:14:03 PM PDT by discostu (Somehow mister reliable was not where he was supposed to be)
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To: squidly

If I were convicted of a felony I would lose my job and never again be able to obtain employment in the field I’m in. Why is Vick different? Oh, in case you’re interested, it would not matter what kind of felony I was convicted of. I would never be able to work in this field.


10 posted on 08/19/2009 1:14:07 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: AJKauf

...I don’t care about all this “he’s paid his debt to society” blather....I’m interested in the way he and his posse killed those dogs with electrocution/drowning/slamming ect...that’s very dark stuff...reminds me of adolescent cat torturers who later abduct, torture and murder women for kicks...at heart, Vick demonstrates a capacity for evil....I don’t think we’ve heard the last of him in that regard....the leopard don’t change his spots....


11 posted on 08/19/2009 1:14:53 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Vick just hung around with a bad crowd. Bunch of hanger-on losers who wanted to ride his jock. He never did any of this crap before he went to the NFL.


12 posted on 08/19/2009 1:16:04 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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To: wastoute

There are no quiet signings in the NFL, all signings are public information. And he is at a fraction of his salary, he’s down to $1.6 million from his previous salary of $10 million, and he’s going to be suspended for the first few games of the season so he won’t even get all the 1.6.


13 posted on 08/19/2009 1:16:06 PM PDT by discostu (Somehow mister reliable was not where he was supposed to be)
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To: discostu

Pleading guilty to a crime is a conviction. Look it up. The longer sentence might have something to do with the fact that the fights took place on his property, and that he admitted to being directly invovled with the killing of the dogs after they were no longer able to be used for fighting. So, what’s your point?


14 posted on 08/19/2009 1:16:10 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: AJKauf

I have mixed emotions about this issue but wouldn’t mind reading the thoughts of other Freepers.

Of course there’s the all-American argument that Vick has served his time and there’s a lot of truth to this, no?

There’s also the argument that the man has a right to pursue a livlihood after doing his time and this is true?

Finally, shouldn’t the decision be up to the fans when all is said and done?

For no matter how noble my belief that he’s served his time, I just can never forget that this man threw dogs into a pool of water while it was electrified and allowed them to be electrocuted, all the while as they screamed with the horrific pain.

I can’t forget that he picked up dogs by their legs and body-slammed them against brick walls, again with the screams of pain and if they didn’t die from that torture, he had them shot to a final peace with a bullet.

And for what? Because this animal living only by its instincts and with its major desire to please its owner, failed at providing Vick funds from his torture of other innocent animals by the gruesome sport of dog fighting. Every way you look at it this is a bad, bad thing and only really, really bad people can do stuff like this.

I’m not an Eagles fan but if the Ravens took up Vick on their team I’d never watch a game again, buy a product from any sponsor of the games or read another word about the team.

So I proffer the good and noble sentiments that I should have but my gut instinct is to completely dislike this fellow as much as I’d like to believe he’s changed his ways. But that’s just me.


15 posted on 08/19/2009 1:16:31 PM PDT by Fishtalk (If you're a Freeper and have a Blog Freepmail me with the link. I'll do you if you do me.)
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To: AJKauf
Hey, lotta fresh starts:

New team, new city, new possition.

As a man of influence in the Philadelphia Cock Fighting Community, I intend to reach out to introduce him to a new passtime.

16 posted on 08/19/2009 1:17:31 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: SoldierDad

You are a soldier and a Dad I must guess. Because some of the commenters above your comment disillusioned me completely. How to defend this guy...tell us to “get off his back”?

Thank you for making me think I’m not the only crazy one that still thinks only an evil person can do what that man did.

He’s out of jail, good. He served his time, good. But no law says I got to watch any football game he’s in, good.


17 posted on 08/19/2009 1:19:05 PM PDT by Fishtalk (If you're a Freeper and have a Blog Freepmail me with the link. I'll do you if you do me.)
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To: twigs

Vick and Plaxico, poster children for left wing extremists. Vick= PETA, Plaxico= Gun control anti 2nd amendment leftist factions.

This is a media feeding frenzy that most people dismiss as extremists because they are insignificant rants.


18 posted on 08/19/2009 1:19:22 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: SoldierDad
"Yeah, right. That’ll work out well for the Humane Society when Vick is again caught involved in animal abuse. Anyone out there really believe Vick learned his lesson? Or, was he just sorry he was caught??? I vote the second option."

Oh, he's absolutely just sorry he was caught. But I think it's probably been made pretty clear to him that his entire image is riding on constantly demonstrating his remorse, and that the Eagles, the Humane Society, his own agent, and anybody else with a chunk of brain cells has told him that if it happens again his career will be over and he'll end up in jail for a decade.

I don't think he was addicted to dog-fighting, I think he just thought it was fun and thought that the animals didn't deserve to be treated like living creatures. I'm sure his ethics haven't changed, but I strongly doubt he'd ever consider going back to that sort of thing — too many people watching.

Of course, there's a long list of people who whose first stupid act did not preclude their second. We'll see.

19 posted on 08/19/2009 1:19:25 PM PDT by Devils Avocado
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To: STONEWALLS

Thank you....only bad people can do what he did, it’s my story and I’m sticking to it.


20 posted on 08/19/2009 1:19:57 PM PDT by Fishtalk (If you're a Freeper and have a Blog Freepmail me with the link. I'll do you if you do me.)
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