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Obama Administration: Depressed and Disabled Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care
IsraPundit ^ | 8/19/09 | Bill Levinson

Posted on 08/19/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by Winged Hussar

Depression, disability, and "being a financial burden" could constitute "Lebensunwerte Leben" (Life Unworthy of Life) in U.S. Government end of life planning document

"The Death Book for Veterans: Ex-soldiers don't need to be told they're a burden to society" by Jim Towey in today's (August 18) Wall Street Journal says,

    Last year, bureaucrats at the VA's National Center for Ethics in Health Care advocated a 52-page end-of-life planning document, "Your Life, Your Choices." It was first published in 1997 and later promoted as the VA's preferred living will throughout its vast network of hospitals and nursing homes. After the Bush White House took a look at how this document was treating complex health and moral issues, the VA suspended its use. Unfortunately, under President Obama, the VA has now resuscitated "Your Life, Your Choices."
We downloaded this document directly from the Veterans Administration, and the content suggests that both family finances and depression--a non-terminal illness--could constitute Lebensunwerte Leben, or "life unworthy of life." Smoke is generally indicative of fire and, although HR 3200 says nothing about mandatory end of life planning, euthanasia, or anything else similar to Germany's Aktion T4 program--the euthanasia program that served as a precedent for the Holocaust--we have shown (http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=16320) that there is indeed fire to go with the smoke. "Your Life, Your Choices" is simply more evidence, and it even suggests that war veterans with depression consider themselves a burden on the society that sent them to war.

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To: Winged Hussar
Use Their Words Against Them
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41 posted on 08/19/2009 3:36:19 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (veritas odium parit)
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To: penelopesire

Think of this: if the $900 billion Porkulus had been skipped, and if it takes a million dollars to save a life (exaggerating for effect) then that could have saved 900,000 lives and we would be no worse off than before.


42 posted on 08/19/2009 3:36:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: Monkey Face

There should be another statement to choose: “I think the Obama administration should eff off.”


43 posted on 08/19/2009 3:39:09 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: Winged Hussar; All
 
44 posted on 08/19/2009 3:39:10 PM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: Magic Fingers
Now that might be a fun way to go out...

Fun can be addicting.

45 posted on 08/19/2009 3:39:48 PM PDT by 4woodenboats
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To: Jeffrey_D.

HELL YEAH GIVE THEM THE FULL ALINSKY! THEY DESERVE IT!


46 posted on 08/19/2009 3:40:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: penelopesire

“p. My situation causes severe emotional for my family (such as feeling worried or stressed all the time).”

I feel deeply sorry for anyone who could not check that box.

(Poor Toots.)


47 posted on 08/19/2009 3:41:33 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Bon mots

The United States should forgo the Obama administration and abort it.


48 posted on 08/19/2009 3:41:36 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Winged Hussar; darkwing104; Arrowhead1952; StarCMC; MS.BEHAVIN; Kathy in Alaska

I hate these people.

Can I still say that?


49 posted on 08/19/2009 3:43:11 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Marking Time On The Government's Dime)
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To: driftdiver

That choice should be up to each individual. There is no such thing as euthanasia in a Christian society. It’s murder.While life may not be worth much to some of those in really bad shape, those questions are criminal. If there is a segment of our society that really does deserve the best care we can give them, it’s those who gave up their well-being to protect others, or at the orders of their officers.
Potential to ration health care to our soldiers and provide it for illegal aliens? How much of this are we going to put up with?


50 posted on 08/19/2009 3:44:01 PM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion)
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To: Old Sarge

Hell yeah, and they are despicable, mean, nasty, and their mothers wear combat boots to stomp on the unborn.


51 posted on 08/19/2009 3:44:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: Winged Hussar
Empty Suit Administration: Depressed and Disabled All Veterans Should Consider Foregoing Medical Care

There. One can't fix a statement like that, but I did update it to more accurately reflect the position of the administration.
52 posted on 08/19/2009 3:45:30 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: the long march

But that is between the family and a private doctor not the federal government involvement which is where I draw the line.

My parents had living wills and powers of attorney but the federal government didn’t come in and say no more healthcare as you are too old or disabled.

Huge difference. Like comparing an apple and an orange.


53 posted on 08/19/2009 3:46:02 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Quix

Paging Dr. Quix. Paging Dr. Quix. We have a questionnaire that was made up by a mad man.


54 posted on 08/19/2009 3:46:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (59 million Americans joined hands and shouted, "Yes, We Can March off This Cliff!")
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To: frogjerk
LOL ... this guy too.


55 posted on 08/19/2009 3:46:46 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Winged Hussar
I've got news for this bunch, I'm a Nam vet, I'm 62 years old and I plan on staying on this side of the grass as long as possible. The big reason for that is so that I can continue to obey my oath...to protect and defend this country against all enemies foreign and domestic. Once a Ranger, always a Ranger and I plan to give them the fight of their lousy lives. Come and try to "counsel" me you a$$holes, and I'll slap you up side the head with the butt of my newly acquired M-14, bring your "friends" and I'll turn it around and use the "business end".

My God will take me when He sees fit and He is much more power than all of you. When it's time I'll let His will be done, and not until, so take a hike, I don't need you and I don't like you.

PS. 90% of the Nam Rangers I know feel exactly the same way, and we are armed and trained. Proceed at your own peril, and we ain't forgotten nothin'. We still got the 2nd an we'll use it!

56 posted on 08/19/2009 3:49:07 PM PDT by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: driftdiver

That’s basically what my dad did.


57 posted on 08/19/2009 3:49:34 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: the long march
Families who care how their loved ones are treated should have these discussions NOW

That is the ONLY part of your post I agree with.

However....there is no way in YOU KNOW WHERE I'd ask my Daddy or Mom or hubby...the types of questions on there.

Life is precious!!! It is God given!!!!

58 posted on 08/19/2009 3:49:51 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

These people running our government are sick and heartless! I am so mad I can’t see straight. We should print out a bunch of these things to hand out to people at the townhalls all over the country!! Let them see just how despicable Obama and the democrats are!


59 posted on 08/19/2009 3:51:45 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

You can confirm it right here: note “va.gov.”

http://www1.va.gov/pugetsound/docs/ylyc.pdf


60 posted on 08/19/2009 3:52:33 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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