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Tom DeLay--Proud "Birther"
WorldNetDaily ^ | August 19, 2009 | Tom DeLay

Posted on 08/19/2009 5:33:30 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi

Edited on 08/19/2009 5:34:26 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

'Constitution specifically says you have to be natural born citizen'

WASHINGTON Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay pulled no punches on Chris Matthews "Hardball"show on MSNBC today when asked if he is a "birther."

"Well, Id like the president to produce his birth certificate," said DeLay. "I can. Most illegal aliens here in America can. Why can't the president of the United States produce his birth certificate? ...


(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; delay; imom; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obroma; tomdelay; usurpation
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1 posted on 08/19/2009 5:33:31 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi
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To: Vincent Jappi

Good for Tom. Help us expose this marxist quisling.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 5:35:45 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: LucyT

ping


3 posted on 08/19/2009 5:36:07 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Vincent Jappi

What Tom Delay should have said to Chrissy tingly feeling is this....

Chris you certainly agree that Obama is a significant first in the Political history of this country right?, the first black president, the first president born in Hawaii, so I would like you Chris to make a donation to the Childrens ward of the Hospital that Obama was born at in the Name of physician that brought him forth in the world. That simple tidbit of information could be found on the original long version of his BC.

You certainly have friends in the administration give them a call and ask them to find out for you, I mean what harm is knowing the doctors name that actually birthed him. Then make your donation expressly in that doctors name to the hosipital and make it public.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 5:39:51 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (It requires the willing suspension of disbelief to believe what Obama says about Healthcare reform.)
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To: pissant
With his ratings dropping like a rock, it seems he would produce it, and take this negativity out of the news.

Also, the only way this will rid us of him at this point is impeachment. He best cough it up while he controls the congress, and not gamble on the '10 elections.

Congress would not vote for impeachment at this point, but after the mid-terms, he's on his own.

5 posted on 08/19/2009 5:45:56 PM PDT by dfwddr (fubo)
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To: dfwddr

I disagree about impeachment. The office will be vacated immediately if he is found unqualified. If he refused, we’d drag him out by his ears.


6 posted on 08/19/2009 5:47:27 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Vincent Jappi

bravo!


7 posted on 08/19/2009 5:47:39 PM PDT by Always Right (It is not the Townhall crowds that are manufactured, but the Health Care Crisis that is manufactured)
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To: Vincent Jappi

Can you imagine if he mentions the BC issue on “Dancing with the Stars”?? LOL!


8 posted on 08/19/2009 5:48:38 PM PDT by LA Woman3 (LA Woman3 is "deeply concerned" about her country!)
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To: dfwddr

we need someone to independently verify that you had to be 6 weeks old to fly back in 1961. Can anyone find out from the FAA around here?


9 posted on 08/19/2009 5:49:19 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Vincent Jappi

Tom DeLay, Patriot, and someone who, like us, just wants the truth to come out about this issue, which should be no problem for the “transparent president.”


10 posted on 08/19/2009 5:54:25 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Vincent Jappi

Go De Lay!

That said, I think it wouldn’t matter a bit if Obama were proven to have been born on Mars. The press and the majority Dems want him in, and nothing’s going to change that.


11 posted on 08/19/2009 5:58:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: STARWISE; shield; PhiKapMom; Bahbah

Tom Delay is a birther....He wants O’spama to produce his BC.


12 posted on 08/19/2009 6:01:05 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Vincent Jappi
"Well, I’d like the president to produce his birth certificate," said DeLay. "I can. Most illegal aliens here in America can. Why can't the president of the United States produce his birth certificate? ...

ROTFLOL Well put, Tom.

13 posted on 08/19/2009 6:01:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: RummyChick

Not if he flew the British airline that flew from Kenya to Glascow to Vancouver in 1961.


14 posted on 08/19/2009 6:03:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

LOL....he was my rep for a number of years. I always loved this guy. We’ve always had lots in common now another one...a birther like me. ;o)


15 posted on 08/19/2009 6:04:15 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Vincent Jappi

Is their a video clip available? What was the tingler’s expression? Oh, I missed a good one, too precious for words./Just Asking - seoul62......


16 posted on 08/19/2009 6:07:32 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: hoosiermama

thinking more in terms of unwed mother’s home in Canada. Drive to Washington...

Versus
Having a baby in Hawaii and flying a newborn to Washington . I am not sure of the date that she actually showed up for class.

WND is claiming there was a law back then that you had to be 6 weeks old to fly. If anyone can find that law..then you have the smoking gun.


17 posted on 08/19/2009 6:08:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: livius
The press and the majority Dems want him in, and nothing’s going to change that.

With him falling flat on his face with everything he's trying to ram through, plus the economy continuing to tank, even the dems and the press will eventually turn on him.

18 posted on 08/19/2009 6:13:32 PM PDT by Bullish ( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
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To: Vincent Jappi

I think Obama should produce his birth certificate even though there is ample evidence he was born in Hawaii. However, I think it’s counterproductive to force him to produce a birth certificate or to go on about his being a Kenyan. My instincts are that this is what the Democrats want: to define the right as a bunch of kooks that hate the president so insanely that they will latch onto anything (i.e., exactly what the left was with Bush). I don’t know what we get out of this birth certificate attack; it will fail. I prefer to ignore the issue and go after him for being an incompetent wannabe dictator who will tax and spend at every opportunity. This resonates with the people.


19 posted on 08/19/2009 6:15:05 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: ElectronVolt

Attack on all fronts.


20 posted on 08/19/2009 6:20:18 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Bullish

I hope so.


21 posted on 08/19/2009 6:20:52 PM PDT by livius
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To: Vincent Jappi

“”I know,” Matthews responded. “But I’ve never asked you for yours.”

“Ask me!” DeLay responded. “I’ll give it to you!” “

As far as I know it is the President of the US that has to be a natural born citizen according to the Constitution. I don’t think it is required for a Congressman. So Matthews argument is spurious as usual for the bombastic fool.


22 posted on 08/19/2009 6:22:38 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: hoosiermama

I saw that today. He pretty much just shut Chrissy down.

Hey, I have to produce all sorts of things, he said.

DeLay 10, Chrissy 0.


23 posted on 08/19/2009 6:24:33 PM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: ElectronVolt
Don't underestimate what the extreme anti Bush crowd accomplished. They gained media legitimacy and framed Bush without so much as a fight. Not fighting back was one of Roves biggest regrets.
24 posted on 08/19/2009 6:24:46 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: pissant

That’s a visual I could get behind!!!


25 posted on 08/19/2009 6:30:36 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Where is my much anticipated Obama Opus?)
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To: ElectronVolt
My instincts are that this is what the Democrats want: to define the right as a bunch of kooks that hate the president
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Republicans and independents haven't drunk the Obama Kool-Aid.

Asking for proof that a president is natural born is a sensible question and **easily** resolved by obama with a mere nod of the head.

Spending millions of dollars in attorney time, fight the release of vital records all the way to the Supreme Court, rescinding an officer's orders...now that is NUTZ!

The nutty one here is Obama!

By the way, Obama **himself** claims that his father was a British and Kenyan citizen. It is rational for citizen to ask clarification of the matter from our courts.

26 posted on 08/19/2009 6:35:10 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: pissant

That’s the way I feel and I hope the military support is likewise as a whole damn bunch need to go with him.


27 posted on 08/19/2009 6:35:24 PM PDT by mcshot (My President will be honest, transparent, open and have a legitimate birth certificate.)
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To: LA Woman3
Can you imagine if he mentions the BC issue on “Dancing with the Stars”?? LOL!

I was going to say...he can forget about winning "Dancing with the Stars!"
28 posted on 08/19/2009 6:45:30 PM PDT by Miss Didi ( "After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

Hey hey .. ho, ho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyJC_uVysuM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wnd.com%2Findex.php%3Ffa%3DPAGE.view%26pageId%3D107424&feature=player_embedded#t=71


29 posted on 08/19/2009 6:45:42 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: seoul62

Here you go...

http://www.youtube.com/v/PyJC_uVysuM


30 posted on 08/19/2009 6:57:04 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: Vincent Jappi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4yoRuAkMeM


31 posted on 08/19/2009 6:57:06 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Obama wants to raise taxes and kill babies. Palin wants to raise babies and kill taxes.)
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To: STARWISE

AWESOME! Thanks for the ping. As Obama moves to destroy this country more and more everyday, we can expect to see a rise in ‘Birthers’...lol. It may be the only hope of saving our country! Obama and the democrats are completely out of control!


32 posted on 08/19/2009 7:00:20 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: hoosiermama

Even babies need passports though.


33 posted on 08/19/2009 7:01:58 PM PDT by diefree
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To: Vincent Jappi
The Left likes to use the newspaper announcements as irrefutable "proof" that he is a natural-born citizen. What they're ignoring is that the issue is not necessarily where Obama was born, but rather to whom. He could've been born right next to the Liberty Bell, but this would be immaterial if one or both of the parents owe allegiance to some other foreign country. A person born to a father who has a double allegiance, or who is not a citizen of the U.S., is not a natural-born citizen, period. The fact that Hawaiian newspapers announce his birth means nothing. Place of birth does not define nor control citizenship -- and it certainly does not define natural-born citizenship.

Snopes attempts to explain this away by stating that "these [parental] qualifications...are moot because they refer to someone born outside the United States." From every analysis of the Framers' documents and 14th Amendment that I have read, this is false. The qualifications apply regardless of birthplace.

Snopes further claims that since the 14th Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States," then that means that since Obama was born in Hawaii, then he is a natural-born citizen. Nope. Simply being a citizen of the United States is not the same as being a natural-born citizen.

Of course, an actual birth certificate would clear all of that up in an instant. So why is Obama spending millions to avoid producing this and other personal documents? Because he has something to hide, that's why. People don't spend millions to stonewall the release of something that wouldn't hurt them at all if it were released.

34 posted on 08/19/2009 7:08:38 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: RummyChick

Putting together all of the timelines, I’m inclined to go with the Canadian birth. Birth was too close to her enrollment in college in WA. Wish someone up in that area would do some digging.


35 posted on 08/19/2009 7:10:56 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: ElectronVolt

“...even though there is ample evidence he was born in Hawaii.”

Show us your ample evidence.


36 posted on 08/19/2009 7:12:24 PM PDT by Balata
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To: WVNan

Wnd had hired an investigator in Hawaii..and they didn’t bother to look in the Polk directory last year????
Now all of a sudden they find that Toots was living the good Professor’s house. Where was the Professor?

All we need is that smoking gun about newborns not being allowed to fly from Hawaii..and it should be enough to get some people thinking about this whole thing.

But I don’t trust WND..so that rule might not even be true.


37 posted on 08/19/2009 7:20:27 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: diefree

Not if she has a note from the hospital that information on the birth has been sent to the AM embassy for registration. Many young children traveled on their parents passport at that time.


38 posted on 08/19/2009 7:28:27 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: RummyChick

fr mail.


39 posted on 08/19/2009 7:29:44 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: WVNan

FR mail


40 posted on 08/19/2009 7:34:53 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: RummyChick

Do we know which airlines were flying out of HI at this time. I think the individual airline is the place to look for this info.

For example, on American Airlines (the company) infants can travel with a parent from the second day after delivery, although the airline recommends waiting until at least seven days after delivery.


41 posted on 08/19/2009 7:35:53 PM PDT by Balata
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To: STARWISE

Excellent video!!

Yeah, Chrissy...we want to see his “papers”.

Where’s the Birth Certificate?


42 posted on 08/19/2009 7:39:33 PM PDT by azishot
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To: BushCountry

Thank you./Just Asking - seoul62........


43 posted on 08/19/2009 7:40:09 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: Balata

I don’t have the link now but there was a radio interview with WND. He claims there was a law or a policy that was changed in the 70s. Before this change..the newborn had to be 6 weeks. He was talking like this would be for all airlines.


44 posted on 08/19/2009 7:42:41 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: diefree

My initial passport to come to the United States was a light greenish color-*(shows you how old I am)*, plus I have my original birth certificate!!!!!! Listen, if the one knows truly what he is and where he was born, then there is nothing to hide. Why give your critics feed for fodder??????/Just Asking - seoul62.......


45 posted on 08/19/2009 7:48:58 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: hoosiermama

you are right in that but the child’s name and photo had to be on the mother’s passport. I know because I have one for me and my daughter.


46 posted on 08/19/2009 7:49:13 PM PDT by diefree
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To: diefree

In 1961 no passport was needed to come from Vancouver to Seattle.


47 posted on 08/19/2009 7:50:48 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

The rules for flying in on airlines were different from crossing the border by automobile.


48 posted on 08/19/2009 8:03:47 PM PDT by diefree
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To: hoosiermama

HM, I’b beginning to think that the Vancouver connection may be the key. The missionary in Kenya who had connections in Vancouver is just too coincidental. Wish someone would go to Vancouver and search for any existing homes for pregnant girls in 61. Also dig for records for some kind of “footprint” SA might have left there.


49 posted on 08/19/2009 8:07:59 PM PDT by WVNan ( (Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.: Sun Tzu))
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To: RepublitarianRoger2

The difference between the birthplace issue and the dual nationality issue is:

–we know that the Usurper will be exposed as such if it is proved that he wasn’t born in the US but we don’t know if he was or not.
The relevant strategy is a political campaign asking for the real certificate.

–We know that the Usurper is a dual citizen but we don’t know if a court will find this a sufficient reason to declare him ineligible.
The most advisable strategy is to ask for a judicial assessment of his status.

Both strategies are enough to expose the Usurper, and both imply som kind of wager. Both should be pursued.


50 posted on 08/19/2009 8:15:08 PM PDT by Vincent Jappi (Parempi myöhään kuin ei milloinkaan)
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