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Psystar Vs Mac (Vanity)
Psystar.com ^ | 8/19/09 | mylife

Posted on 08/19/2009 6:01:51 PM PDT by mylife

Howdy folks, I apologize for the vanity post, but My Son needs a Mac for art school and I was wondering if any of you are in graphic arts and if so...

Does any one have a Psystar? will it do the work that is necessary? It's running Mac OS X Leopard v10.5

Also, do you think there could be issue's in the future due to the Apple/Psystar court squabbles?


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KEYWORDS: mac; macintosh; paystar; psystar
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Thanks. I am bone ignorant on Macs and I aint made of money.
1 posted on 08/19/2009 6:01:51 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Do the honest and honorable thing and get a genuine Mac.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 6:02:38 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: Ronin

Honest? Honorable?

Gee thanks for the cheap Dad shot. I dont own a Mac. I am running a walmart special L0L


3 posted on 08/19/2009 6:05:29 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Me too my...but I’m slowly learning.


4 posted on 08/19/2009 6:07:18 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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http://www.psystar.com/


5 posted on 08/19/2009 6:07:37 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Psystar would make an acceptable option (on the practical side, I am not addressing legal issues) for hobbyists who want to run a Mac on the machine with a certain configuraytion available from Psystar.

It is NOT for those who do not work with thes things at a low level on a regular basis.

In short, if you have to ask, it ain’t for you.


6 posted on 08/19/2009 6:07:53 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Randy Larsen

Learning the Mac? or learning Money? L0L


7 posted on 08/19/2009 6:08:52 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Ronin

And think about this...

Back in December I purchased an 20-inch iMac. I also purchased the Apple protection plan. Six months later, while (ironically) installing Windows on Bootcamp, the machine overheated and a portion of the casing about the size of a candy bar actually softened and melted a bit.

I packed it back up the next weekend, took it to the Apple store — and walked out of the Apple Store 2 hours later with a brand new computer — one that was actually an upgrade from the original purchase (better video card).

Cost to me? Train fare from my apartment to Shibuya and back. Total of 340 yen.

Try doing that with ANY PC maker.

Prystar is going to be out of business within a year. If something happens to your machine then, you might be able to use it for a doorstop, but not much else.


8 posted on 08/19/2009 6:09:00 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Thanks


9 posted on 08/19/2009 6:10:48 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Ronin

I didn’t know Mac users were so frugal L0L!


10 posted on 08/19/2009 6:12:18 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Options to Psystar:

New Mac Mini with after market flatscreen

Used iMac on ebay, it doesn’t have to be newest, but should be Intel-based, at least.

Frankly, even at academic pricing, the software will give the hardware a good run for the money. We are probably looking at Adobe CS4, and that will run you a hefty amount.


11 posted on 08/19/2009 6:12:26 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Ronin

Try doing that with ANY PC maker.

Burned out board on a Dell PC under warranty.
Repaired at the office in 3 hrs.
No inconvenience.
No travel.
No cost.
No shit.


12 posted on 08/19/2009 6:13:21 PM PDT by jessduntno (Privatization + Inter-State Sales + Individual Policies + Tort Reform = Healthcare Reform)
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To: mylife

>>>Thanks. I am bone ignorant on Macs and I aint made of money.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=MTE3NjY


13 posted on 08/19/2009 6:15:42 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (ESPN MNF: 3 Putzes talking about football on TV while I'm trying to watch a game.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

For Fun... a friend of mine went to the online Mac store and “built” his desired configuration.

He mashed the pricing button... 25K! L0L

I see reviews on the Psystar that say folks like it better than their old Mac mini.


14 posted on 08/19/2009 6:16:26 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

My lovely and gracious wife is a graphic arteest/ designer and she says there is no substitute for a Mac! With a least a 20” monitor.


15 posted on 08/19/2009 6:17:08 PM PDT by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Book marked.

Thank you.


16 posted on 08/19/2009 6:17:29 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: kickonly88
They love bells and whistles ☺
17 posted on 08/19/2009 6:18:41 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Ronin

In Japan? wow..


18 posted on 08/19/2009 6:19:54 PM PDT by max americana (i)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Looks like this is a good way to go.

Thanks again


19 posted on 08/19/2009 6:20:49 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Well let me put it this way...

I bought a bright and shiny Dell 17” laptop and had Windows Vista Ultimate installed..1800 bucks!

Never could figure out the OS! Used it as a previewer for the Canteen until the motherboard died recently.

I went with Rush Limbaugh’s And EsmeraldaA’s recomendations and bought a new Imac 20”...$1300.

Learning to use the mac so I really can’t offer much of a recomendation other than the mac is lightning fast and user friendly.

Price wise...More computer for less money because the machine doesn’t need all that online protection!


20 posted on 08/19/2009 6:23:47 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: mylife
What sort of specs does your son's computer require? Memory, processor speed, the usual. Just thought I'd ask because the Mac Mini has a tolerable price tag.

Even if PsyStar manages to fight a successful delaying action for a while, I don't see this ending happily for them.

Find out what software your son needs to use and determine whether the Mac Mini will do the job.

21 posted on 08/19/2009 6:24:38 PM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: Randy Larsen

Thanks. Imac “20” eh?

1.3k wont break the bank


22 posted on 08/19/2009 6:26:44 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Charles Martel

Thanks.

I guess my post was premature. I need to do more research.

I just would like to get him the best machine for the money.


23 posted on 08/19/2009 6:29:22 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Ronin

My neice is a kid, she broke her monitor on the Toshiba laptop. They sent a box, postage pre-paid, they masiled off the box. About a week or two later a new Toshiba laptop is delivered by FedEx.

After a phone call they even reset the warranty


24 posted on 08/19/2009 6:32:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Pro-Freedom Fiction Writers Unite! - http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: mylife
>They love bells and whistles ☺ Wives, or graphic design artists?
25 posted on 08/19/2009 6:38:48 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Both!


26 posted on 08/19/2009 6:42:33 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Yes Sir!

Nice machine...


27 posted on 08/19/2009 6:49:47 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: mylife

If he signs up with Apple as a developer, he can get a one time developer’s price discount. I don’t know if that stacks with other discounts, but it’s 50% off any Mac. So that $2000 Macbook Pro will go for $1000, rather than $2000.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 6:51:24 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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He mashed the pricing button... 25K! L0L

You can get similar numbers with multi-processor, multi-monitor PCs.

Even an entry level Mac Pro (with extra RAM) will do just fine for under 3K. When your daughter is graduated, that's the kind of Mac she would use.

Unless she is doing full motion video, the Mini should be adequate. No one said that it was the fastest or the best, but when you are on a budget, something's gotta give.
29 posted on 08/19/2009 6:53:57 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: mylife

If your son needs a computer for school, I have 2 words for you: Lenovo ThinkPad. Best laptops made. Get it with 64 bit Windows.


30 posted on 08/19/2009 6:56:45 PM PDT by Astronaut
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It has to be a Mac Os for graphics.


31 posted on 08/19/2009 6:58:55 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I said SON quite clearly.


32 posted on 08/19/2009 7:00:04 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: benjibrowder

Thanks for the tip!


33 posted on 08/19/2009 7:01:02 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: jessduntno

Dell treats company clients a lot better than they do private owners.


34 posted on 08/19/2009 7:10:46 PM PDT by Ronin (Nemo me impune lacesset)
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To: mylife
Photoshop ~$800-$1000
Gimp $0.00

35 posted on 08/19/2009 7:17:11 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: mylife

Ooops. Sorry got confused with another thread.


36 posted on 08/19/2009 7:17:54 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

No worry’s


37 posted on 08/19/2009 7:20:09 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

I want to try gimp! I must download that now!


38 posted on 08/19/2009 7:21:00 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

D’loading now.


39 posted on 08/19/2009 7:23:14 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife
Pixelmator for Mac OS X here for $59.00

40 posted on 08/19/2009 7:33:03 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Thanks


41 posted on 08/19/2009 7:36:06 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Dell treats company clients a lot better than they do private owners.

Honest...three years ago...bad sound card in my XPS at home...sent a guy who replaced it with an upgrade inside the box next day...at about 7pm. Dell gets a bad rap, but I have never had anything but good service from them...home or office.


42 posted on 08/19/2009 7:46:32 PM PDT by jessduntno (Privatization + Inter-State Sales + Individual Policies + Tort Reform = Healthcare Reform)
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To: mylife
why_I_use_Linux

Save yourself some money! I made the above picture using a FREE program called GIMP I use it with Linux but it also works for Windows and Macs. All the graphics I make are with GIMP. Another nice thing about GIMP is that many years from now your old files will still be compatibility with whatever new version is out there.

43 posted on 08/19/2009 7:47:21 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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I just downloaded GIMP but haven’t installed it yet


44 posted on 08/19/2009 7:58:59 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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I would pass. By the time you trick it out to an equivalent mac it’s not that much cheaper. Based on what you say go for the imac. Stay away from linux until you are proficient with your mac and are comfortable with troubleshooting installs and setups.


45 posted on 08/19/2009 8:12:23 PM PDT by pacific_waters
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To: mylife
Gimp has lots of helpful tutorials free but I taught myself how to do it with a book. Sometimes you have to download the help file separately depending on the version. Check out the works done by this GIMP master Josh Sommers.
46 posted on 08/19/2009 8:14:37 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: pacific_waters

You don’t need Linux for Gimp, I Just happened to learn about Gimp because It comes standard on most Linux versions, but it’s made for Windows and Mac also.( I was tired of all the problems I’ve had with Windows over the years and BOUGHT a Linux only machine right from Dell. It’s worked out great for me.)


47 posted on 08/19/2009 8:21:44 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: pacific_waters

Thanks. I was just looking at options.

I love a lot of this open source stuff, and to be honest..

There is a lot of learning that’s involved with “bucking” the incumbent


48 posted on 08/19/2009 8:49:44 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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Thanks. I will install it and fool with it


49 posted on 08/19/2009 8:51:03 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: jessduntno
Burned out board on a Dell PC under warranty. Repaired at the office in 3 hrs. No inconvenience. No travel. No cost. No shit.

Exactly the same experience when I had an "infant mortality" hard drive failure on my new Dell. A repairman visited my house the next business day and replaced the drive.

50 posted on 08/19/2009 8:55:05 PM PDT by r9etb
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