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Telephone workers brief Mass. Congressional Delegation on Verizon's proposed job cuts
Open Media Boston ^ | 7/20/2009 | Rand Wilson

Posted on 08/20/2009 11:13:35 AM PDT by HalfFull

Angry about how a highly profitable corporation like Verizon is threatening hundreds of layoffs, telephone union leaders and some potentially laid off workers held an unprecedented briefing with the staffs of five members of Congress and both Massachusetts senators.

The meeting was convened in Senator Kennedy's office at the Boston Federal Building and was attended by leaders of all the Massachusetts IBEW telephone workers' unions.

"Despite being a very profitable corporation, Verizon announced it wants to cut 8,000 jobs nationally and as many as 500 jobs in Massachusetts," said Myles Calvey, Business Manager of Local 2222 and Chairman of the IBEW System Council T-6. "If Verizon is allowed to do this, it will lead to suicides, foreclosures and broken families. This is nothing but pure corporate greed."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: economy; layoffs; telephone; verizon
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1 posted on 08/20/2009 11:13:36 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: HalfFull

Looks like we’re going for an even 600,000 jobs lost next month, Eh?


2 posted on 08/20/2009 11:16:23 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: HalfFull; All

Go Verizon...


3 posted on 08/20/2009 11:16:50 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: HalfFull

Suicides? Going a little over the top aren’t they?

Everyone knows the drill. When the going gets tough, businesses cut employees.

BTW, has anyone asked what kind of severence package these employees will get? My guess is pretty darned good compared to most other people losing thier jobs.


4 posted on 08/20/2009 11:21:08 AM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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To: HalfFull

Union dictating company policy. Verizon sells it’s landlines to a small company, and that company is not teetering on bankruptcy.

This article is about LANDLINE workers. A hundred years ago it would have been buggywhip workers.

Times and technology change. I used to be a mainframe COBOL IMS DB2 programmer. I live in Seattle so I had to find a different occupation or see my wages plummet.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 11:22:24 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: HalfFull

Protecting the ‘buggy wheel spoke union” ??


6 posted on 08/20/2009 11:23:25 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: HalfFull
A job is not a right. If the business has no need of the labor, there is no reason to keep them around warming seats and contributing nothing to the bottom line. Why do the union hacks think they are untouchable in a recession?

I'm playing a tiny violin as I sit 930 miles from home to earn a living. I'm missing my youngest son's birthday today. I'll spend my own birthday away from home next week. It's a crappy economy. You go where you must to keep earning income.

7 posted on 08/20/2009 11:24:37 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: RobRoy

>>Union dictating company policy. Verizon sells it’s landlines to a small company, and that company is now teetering on bankruptcy. Looks like a pretty smart business decision by Verizon

This article is about LANDLINE workers. A hundred years ago it would have been buggywhip workers.

Times and technology change. I used to be a mainframe COBOL IMS DB2 programmer. I live in Seattle so I had to find a different occupation or see my wages plummet.


8 posted on 08/20/2009 11:24:46 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: RobRoy
Times and technology change. I used to be a mainframe COBOL IMS DB2 programmer. I live in Seattle so I had to find a different occupation or see my wages plummet.

When PacBell ushered 6,000 people out the door in Dec 1991, I seriously looked at the Seattle area. The choices were Microsoft or supporting small IBM servers. Too bad. I enjoyed the year I lived in Federal Way (1964). I took a better job in San Diego. I'm still hooked up to that one.

9 posted on 08/20/2009 11:29:03 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: HalfFull
Despite being a very profitable corporation, Verizon announced it wants to cut 8,000 jobs nationally and as many as 500 jobs in Massachusetts

Non sequitur.

What do Verizon's profits have do do with the number of employees needed to run the business?

10 posted on 08/20/2009 11:29:34 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: Brookhaven
Everyone knows the drill. When the going gets tough, businesses cut employees.

I know someone who works for Verizon. He's professional, and is not in a union. It is true that Verizon is very profitable. It's also true that management is obsessed with laying off people. They've been that way for years, even when the economy wasn't this bad.

11 posted on 08/20/2009 11:29:35 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

I know someone who works for Verizon. He’s professional, and is not in a union. It is true that Verizon is very profitable. It’s also true that management is obsessed with laying off people. They’ve been that way for years, even when the economy wasn’t this bad.
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I’ve worked for three large telecoms (AT&T, GTE, & Verizon.) It was true at all three. The reason?

1. The telecom business has been shrinking for decades. Long distance now a give away. Local land lines going away (replace by cells phones or internet phones.)

2. The only growing part of the industry is cellular, but that’s very competitive. Big telecoms still have a monopoly mindset, and just aren’t fast or mobile enough to work in a competive market like cellular.

The economy for telecoms has been in a depression for the last 20 years.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 11:37:32 AM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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To: HalfFull
If Verizon is allowed to do this, it will lead to suicides, foreclosures and broken families. This is nothing but pure corporate greed.

These idiots need to move to Russia where all corporations are run for 'the common good' and life is wonderful all the time /sarc. Of course Verizon is allowed to run their business as they need to. They are accountable to their stockholders, not their employees. This 'pure corporate greed' BS is pure propaganda... Verizon management is using their resources as they need to perform the tasks that earn their income. They have no obligation to pay hundreds of thousands of unneeded workers to sit on their asses, just to fatten the union dues. They aren't government motors.

But just wait... soon there will be US Congressional investigations, questions about executive compensation, and another major US corporation under the thumb of Chicago thug politics. This fascist regime needs to end soon. Let's make sure we vote the b*stards out.

13 posted on 08/20/2009 11:39:01 AM PDT by GulchBound (Who owns you?)
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To: HalfFull
"Despite being a very profitable corporation, Verizon announced it wants to cut 8,000 jobs nationally and as many as 500 jobs in Massachusetts,"

Copper telephone service is disappearing. These people can't do anything else. So just because Verizon is profitable, it has to continue to employ useless union workers? They could use that same twisted logic to make GM hire them as soon as GM becomes profitable. Of course, in that case, they'd probably never work again...

14 posted on 08/20/2009 11:40:11 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: HalfFull

I don’t care if Verizon is making more profit than an oil company, and planning to lay off everyone but the night janitor! Yes, it IS corporate greed, pure and simple. But THERE IS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT GREED!

The only thing worse than amoral capitalists setting corporate policy is an incompetent, amoral government setting corporate policy.

Change your phone provider. Write the PR flacks at Verizon. Protest outside their offices. Buy a billboard. Show them for the heartless, greedy bastards they are. But for ALL our sakes, don’t get Congress involved.


15 posted on 08/20/2009 11:43:39 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: HalfFull

I think as soon as they get this health care thing passed, taking over all telephone service providers will be next up for the 0bama thugs. After all, we can’t trust the phone companies to be working in our best interests, and some of their executives get very high salaries.


16 posted on 08/20/2009 11:46:14 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Myrddin

I actually milked the Cobol thin all the way to 2004 as a contractor. I finally stuck at the last place I contracted (still there) as a Business Analyst. I thank the Lord and feel blessed that I was able to laterally move (moneywise) into this position.


17 posted on 08/20/2009 11:51:39 AM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: HalfFull

I worked for BLS for 30 years and the CWA protected the lame and lazy and destroyed the “Telco”


18 posted on 08/20/2009 12:06:19 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: HalfFull
"If Verizon is allowed to do this, it will lead to suicides, foreclosures and broken families. This is nothing but pure corporate greed."

Talk about fearmongering at its finest. So maybe Verizon ought to do what Eastern airlines did, let the union run it into the ground until it destroys the company.

19 posted on 08/20/2009 12:08:16 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: NEMDF

i sup my income with bell dividends and think nows the tim to liquidate...


20 posted on 08/20/2009 12:09:31 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: HalfFull

A company does NOT retain employees “because it is profitable”!
It is “profitable” because it retains only the workforce necessary to accoplish the job!
Heartless?
Our company announced layoffs this week and I’ve been layed off before.
If someone wants to recieve a paycheck, irrespective of value added.....find a government position!


21 posted on 08/20/2009 12:15:45 PM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: HalfFull

How DARE a company do what is in it’s best interest. Doesn’t Verizon realize that the well being of union thugs is the only important consideration!! I wonder how long it will take for Hussein to decide that firings/layoffs must go through his office for approval.


22 posted on 08/20/2009 12:29:11 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: HalfFull
telephone union leaders and some potentially laid off workers

Aren't we all "potentially laid off workers?".

WTF, over.

23 posted on 08/20/2009 12:50:11 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrat - The Party of Bull Connor, slavery, Jim Crow laws, Obama and Suzanne Kosmas)
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To: Brookhaven

Verizon does layoffs in departments that are profitable, have growing businesses, and are already understaffed.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 3:11:15 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: HalfFull
Verizon, all the baby bells as well as the major corporations have taken their orders from the EEOC and support social engineering with affirmative action hiring and promotions. They forced their employees to participate in taking diversity training which includes sensitivity training and politically correct speech. Particularly, you guessed it, with respect to people of color, women and homosexuals.

Social engineering combined with the inefficiencies caused by the union I would expect more layoffs in the near future.
25 posted on 08/20/2009 3:59:38 PM PDT by orinoco
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