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Helen Thomas: "Is Obama Wavering On Health Care For All?" [WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES]
TheBostonChannel.com ^ | 20 Aug 09 | The only reporter to have interviewed all 44 US Presidents, HELEN THOMAS!!!

Posted on 08/20/2009 12:40:29 PM PDT by seanmerc

WASHINGTON -- To win concessions from the hardliners on Capitol Hill, President Barack Obama appeared as though he was ready to give up a jewel in the crown of health reform -- the government-run public option. But after liberal Democrats put up a squawk, the White House scaled back, insisting the president’s commitment to the public option hasn’t changed.

Will the real President Obama please stand up?

Why doesn’t the president come out and say exactly where he stands, where he draws the line? The problem is that for President Obama, there is no "line" on health care. It appears as though he will take what he can get.

Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius signaled Sunday on CNN that the public option, a government-run health insurance alternative, was "not the essential element" of the administration’s health care overhaul.

She said the most important thing is "choice and competition," which opens the door to the less controversial non-profit cooperative idea -- which few understand. In general, health care cooperatives would permit private local, state and regional non-profit groups to enroll members and bargain with doctors and hospitals for reduced-rate care.

Reaction from liberals in Congress was swift. The usually silent Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, D-W.Va., said the public option plan is "a must." And Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis., said that without the public option, there is little hope for real change to a "system that has made good health care a privilege for those who can afford it."

Former Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean, a physician who also served as governor of Vermont, said "you can’t do health care reform without" a government-insurance alternative.

Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., said: "Leaving private insurance companies the job of controlling health care is like making a pyromaniac the fire chief."

President Obama should listen to supporters of the government option.

He knows that VA health care and Medicare work -- and both are government run. But the president apparently may be willing to settle for much less than real reform to get a bill through Congress.

Oddly, many of the white-haired men and women speaking out at the town meetings against the public option clearly are old enough to be receiving Medicare and Social Security.

They should be ashamed of themselves for listening to the scaremongers. Surely they are not so selfish as to deprive the millions of families -- including children -- who are without health care.

But the right-wingers and their talk-show allies -- in addition to highly paid health insurance lobbyists -- are spreading falsehoods about the health plan.

The fat cat drug and health insurance industries -- labeled by some as the "medical industrial complex"-- have poured millions into commercials that deceive Americans on what health care reform is all about.

And in the meantime, the health care industry is raking in record profits -- the 10 largest insurers took in $13 billion in 2007 with CEOs earning an average $12 million a year, according to the labor-backed group, Health Care for America Now.

Think of how many people would profit if that money was available for health care in this depressed economy.

Many poor people are facing foreclosures and evictions. For them, health care is only one big worry among many.

The opponents certainly enjoy all the constitutional protections of freedom of speech -- even to peddle falsehoods. And I would never want to weaken the First Amendment.

But I wonder whether these people -- exhibit A is former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey, now a lobbyist and activist involved in the well-publicized town hall meeting disruptions -- are aware their polemics and disinformation have also created a dangerous climate in the land.

Actually, it’s an atmosphere that too many times in our history has led to national tragedy.

In Phoenix many persons openly carried guns outside where President Obama was speaking. One sported a military-style AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder. When the president went to Portsmouth, N.H. last week for a health-care-related town hall meeting, a protester stood outside with an automatic pistol strapped to his leg.

High among the misconceptions about health care legislation are measures to permit Medicare coverage for end-of-life counseling for the elderly. These legitimate proposals have been attacked as scary government "death panels" that would pull the plug on grandma.

Despite the disinformation campaign, polls show the majority of Americans want some kind of government health insurance -- especially those who have none, many of them unemployed.

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., has a good idea.

His "United States National Insurance Act" would start at birth and ensure that every American, "regardless of income, employment status, or race, has access to quality, affordable health care services."

And why not?


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1 posted on 08/20/2009 12:40:29 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

oddly enough, i agree with helen thomas

obama is a wavering idiot

I think I need a shower now


2 posted on 08/20/2009 12:41:48 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: beckysueb; DirtyHarryY2K; holly go-rightly; Jet Jaguar; Lauren BaRecall; LucyT; machogirl; ...
Yoo-hoo, Helen Thomas ping list members! FReepmail me if you'd like to be added to the list.
3 posted on 08/20/2009 12:41:48 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Mr. K

You’re gonna need a flak vest for agreeing with Helen!


4 posted on 08/20/2009 12:42:38 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

i think that i’ve seen her in that red sweater before. birthday outfit?


5 posted on 08/20/2009 12:44:39 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Please, don’t bring up those images again.


6 posted on 08/20/2009 12:46:44 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: machogirl

7 posted on 08/20/2009 12:47:10 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: seanmerc

Erkkk....

Drzzlll.....

Mfftttt.....


8 posted on 08/20/2009 12:48:01 PM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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To: seanmerc

Is she so naive she thinks she would get a real answer to that Q!


9 posted on 08/20/2009 12:48:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: machogirl

10 posted on 08/20/2009 12:49:01 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither)
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To: seanmerc
You didn't need to be that graphic with your images.

However, as I am about to have lunch, I appreciate your efforts to diminish my appetite before some crafty doctor slices my foot off for $30,000.

That being said, none of the proposed bills would provide health care for all. Not one. So what the hell is Helen Thomas babbling about?
11 posted on 08/20/2009 12:49:17 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment
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To: seanmerc
Actually, she was almost making some pretty good points, and then, I came to this line:
Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., has a good idea.

I stopped reading, because I started laughing so hard...

12 posted on 08/20/2009 12:50:06 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters now.)
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To: seanmerc

And you had to post that picture just before supper.


13 posted on 08/20/2009 12:50:37 PM PDT by donhunt (I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.)
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To: seanmerc; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Look! Seanmerc posted HT photos, and messed up my ping page again.


14 posted on 08/20/2009 12:50:50 PM PDT by LucyT
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I don't always agree with Helen, but I give her points for working so late in her years.





15 posted on 08/20/2009 12:52:07 PM PDT by Sparko (Obama: The only man who can make COMMUNITY a dirty word.)
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To: BigEdLB
As long as the graphic warning stands, just want to include an oldie but goodie.

Don't know what it is, but something about this graphic makes me crack up every time I see it.

16 posted on 08/20/2009 12:52:13 PM PDT by C210N (A patriot for a Conservative Renaissance!)
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To: seanmerc
ROFL!

Ya got me with your warning. I just had to take a look. Yikes!

17 posted on 08/20/2009 12:53:10 PM PDT by elizabethgrace ("It is better to approximately right than precisely wrong." – Fortune Magazine, 1994)
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To: seanmerc
Emergency eyewash:







18 posted on 08/20/2009 12:53:10 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: seanmerc

Was that necessary?

I know we were warned, but really.


19 posted on 08/20/2009 12:53:12 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: seanmerc
OK, now I get it.

This is a left-wing plot, right?

It's the new WH strategy to keep posting those Helen pics and make conservatives so sick that even they will be begging for 'free' single-payer healthcare too, is it?

Very clever. ;-)

20 posted on 08/20/2009 12:55:00 PM PDT by leilani
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To: C210N

All I can see is a placeholder/advertisement for photobucket.


21 posted on 08/20/2009 12:55:18 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: seanmerc

22 posted on 08/20/2009 12:57:55 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: Jewbacca
The one left off:


23 posted on 08/20/2009 1:00:00 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: seanmerc

Hey Helen? You have any problems meeting health costs today?

Are you going to need medical services in 10 years when everyone else is under this program?

Then shut your pie hole about things that don’t concern you.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 1:00:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Barry Falsewitness is proud of his "healthy skepticism" of organized religion. He's a deceiver.)
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To: seanmerc

i think it’s what was said about that red sweater which makes me want to vomit (even more than usual) ;)


25 posted on 08/20/2009 1:01:08 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: BigEdLB

am i supposed to picture Helen as princess Leah? ;)


26 posted on 08/20/2009 1:02:08 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: seanmerc

I dunno....there’s something about that “come hither” look coupled with the leopardskin duds.......


27 posted on 08/20/2009 1:02:26 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Impeach now....not next month... now)
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To: COUNTrecount

do you think that red is a good color for helen? ;)


28 posted on 08/20/2009 1:02:57 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: BigEdLB

You need to learn to post two images at a time and add the “separated at birth?” caption. LOL.


29 posted on 08/20/2009 1:05:58 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: LucyT

You gotta love it! :-)


30 posted on 08/20/2009 1:09:09 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: machogirl

Thanks for ruining the image of Princess Leia...


31 posted on 08/20/2009 1:11:35 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc
What Does She Have That I Haven't Got!!!???

Photobucket

32 posted on 08/20/2009 1:12:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: seanmerc

you weren’t drinking anything and spewed all over your monitor, did ya?


33 posted on 08/20/2009 1:14:27 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Sparko

always flirting with the dem presidents, you sassy helen you


34 posted on 08/20/2009 1:16:09 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Westbrook

i think the big picture in the beginning is sort of like a vaccine. it is so huge and in-your-face, it kind of inoculates us for the rest. ya think?

i suppose if you don’t faint from the first picture... that which does not kill us will make us stronger (or blind)


35 posted on 08/20/2009 1:18:56 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Jewbacca

isn’t this a pic of that high school pole vaulter that was making the rounds a couple years ago?

she is a world of difference from the latest track star from South Africa.

that track star really looks like a guy, or a hermaphrodite.


36 posted on 08/20/2009 1:21:26 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

I don’t know.

She’s one of the top 10 pole vaulters in college right now, and she struck me as very pretty. I am sure I’m not the only one who noticed.

Looks a bit like a fellow Israeli.


37 posted on 08/20/2009 1:25:50 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: seanmerc

“And why not?”

and why not? because when it comes down to painkillers vs pacemakers for YOU Helen, Obama will pick the painkiller. YOU will end up in a dirty crowded ward when you need medical care the most, just like in the UK.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 1:27:17 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama acted stupidly...and that's after knowing all the facts.)
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To: seanmerc

Pull the damned trigger, Hound!


39 posted on 08/20/2009 1:29:03 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Don't fire unless fired upon, but it they mean to have a war, let it begin here." J Parker, 1775)
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To: machogirl

She loved them all ;)

She really has not changed much. See these older black and whites

http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE022008.jpg?size=67&uid=1000656D-0AAB-438E-B9FF-951B6BE16806

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1780386-18.jpg?size=67&uid=b2a521e0-f400-4449-9bb0-5910e4338143&uniqID=bc3366ef-066d-4482-bfcc-8a11744a7f03

and here she is with President Reagan

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U833911-11.jpg?size=67&uid=07bf7edd-486e-4363-8d4e-3cc3c14c2170&uniqID=0fc97e83-8e9d-42fa-9483-4be81868e00c


40 posted on 08/20/2009 1:29:22 PM PDT by Sparko (Obama: The only man who can make COMMUNITY a dirty word.)
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To: Jewbacca
Great Handle! Great tagline!
Love the pic on your homepage.

Yids rule :-)

41 posted on 08/20/2009 1:33:07 PM PDT by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: machogirl

LOL!!

I love Helen Thomas threads, hideous though the images may be.

They lighten up my day with laughter evoked from the very creative comments left by my fellow FReepers.


42 posted on 08/20/2009 1:33:32 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: machogirl

PS Some more from Corbis

here she is in 1973

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1780985.jpg?size=67&uid=769be958-c91e-45f8-8f98-996c7ac1599c&uniqID=79dcb0f0-d36d-46d0-8d42-64cf1ba182a8

here on right in 1969
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1632307A.jpg?size=67&uid=bb594be1-1f22-43c0-8181-003f2f3a5f32&uniqID=f184e12f-0f11-45ca-b8c7-c5765b6954ba

Last one, I promise, from 1952, Helen on the left, taking posture lessons

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1008212.jpg?size=67&uid=fa7b4800-12ec-4afe-ae95-aa8f71ddb3df&uniqID=b3428f0e-038b-4f9c-9700-2239bc62e953


43 posted on 08/20/2009 1:35:27 PM PDT by Sparko (Obama: The only man who can make COMMUNITY a dirty word.)
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To: Sparko

“She really has not changed much.”

Well, she’s been un-dead since 1982.


44 posted on 08/20/2009 1:39:55 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca

LOL.

View at your own risk.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7421/manwithgrapesmx3.jpg

That which has been seen, cannot be unseen.


45 posted on 08/20/2009 1:45:09 PM PDT by Sparko (Obama: The only man who can make COMMUNITY a dirty word.)
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To: Mr. K

This beast should of asked where he stood BEFORE the election but then he would of lost even to McCain


46 posted on 08/20/2009 1:45:14 PM PDT by italianquaker (“Every inch of this Administration is rife with corruption and cronyism.” --- Michelle Malkin)
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To: machogirl

No.


47 posted on 08/20/2009 1:47:48 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: seanmerc

Give her an eye patch and a pirate hat and she could go “Aaargggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!”


48 posted on 08/20/2009 1:50:44 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: machogirl

I think red is a good color for the entire administration.


49 posted on 08/20/2009 2:37:25 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither)
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To: seanmerc

Excuse me for saying it this way, but... Holy crap! Did the picture have to be that big and detailed?


50 posted on 08/20/2009 2:55:58 PM PDT by roostercashews
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