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Consensus Thaws On Global Warming
IBD Editorials ^ | August 20, 2009 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 08/20/2009 5:54:39 PM PDT by Kaslin

Global Warming: What's the climate change scare really about? Not what the alarmists want the public to think. Just ask the retiring head of Greenpeace. In an unguarded moment, he might spill the secret again.


During an Aug. 5 interview with the BBC, Gerd Leipold, outgoing executive director of Greenpeace, admitted that his organization emotionalizes issues to influence the public. At the time, he was admitting his group had made an error in its July 15 news release that claimed "we are looking at ice-free summers in the Arctic as early as 2030."

"I don't think (the Greenland ice sheet) will be melting by 2030," he said. "That may have been a mistake."

Or maybe it was one of those examples that Greenpeace embellished to stir fear in the public? If so, it wouldn't be an isolated case. Others have admitted they're willing to bend the truth in order to draw attention to the cause.

Twenty years ago, Stanford University environmentalist Stephen Schneider told Discover magazine that it's perfectly fine "to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts we might have. . . . Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."

Al Gore noted the power of propaganda when he once told Grist, a magazine for environmentalists, that "it is appropriate to have an overrepresentation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience."

So why all the distortions about global warming? To save the planet, to save us from ourselves? No. To choke economies in developed nations, particularly the U.S.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: globalwarming

1 posted on 08/20/2009 5:54:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 08/20/2009 5:55:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Wednesday, July 08, 2009

Consensus

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(C)Copyright 2009, C. Burke. All rights reserved.


A long time ago, I learned that Science was about observation, data and proof, and there was always room for debate. And, the ones using the word 'deniers' should get a new dictionary and look up the word 'consensus'.

Ironically, this kind of Inquisition could stifle the most inquisitive minds.



3 posted on 08/20/2009 6:01:27 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Kaslin

Global Worming; Ask an amateur Astronomer what the Sun is up to these days.


4 posted on 08/20/2009 6:11:59 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Kaslin

“Al Gore noted the power of propaganda when he once told Grist, a magazine for environmentalists, that “it is appropriate to have an overrepresentation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.”

So, Al, you’re saying it’s OKAY to lie about stuff in order to push YOUR agenda on the masses? You ought to be ashamed and change your name to Goebbels.


5 posted on 08/20/2009 6:21:30 PM PDT by J40000
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To: J40000

Of course he does. He’s a liberal and liberals are hypocrites and liars


6 posted on 08/20/2009 6:24:17 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Of course he does. He’s a liberal and liberals are hypocrites and liars

In defense of liberals, some are merely deluded.

(And a few have simply, honestly, reached wrong conclusions. Where they are wrong.)

7 posted on 08/20/2009 6:38:18 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Kaslin
Stanford University environmentalist Stephen Schneider told Discover magazine that it's perfectly fine "to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts we might have. . . . Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."

Ok, Mr. Schneider, to be honest, I'll never believe another thing you or any other envrio-whacko says. How's that for a balance? Ever hear of a little thing called credibility? No? Well, maybe that's because you no longer have any.

8 posted on 08/20/2009 6:44:21 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Kaslin

“He’s a liberal and liberals are hypocrites and liars”

Exactly! If their lips are moving, they are lying!


9 posted on 08/20/2009 7:25:01 PM PDT by Laserman
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10 posted on 08/20/2009 10:13:21 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Barack Obama: in your guts, you know he's nuts!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Already 20,000 overnight hotel stays that had been reserved for the December United Nations climate summit in Copenhagen have been canceled. Either a lot of people are losing interest — or they're thinking it will just be too cold.

LOL!

11 posted on 08/20/2009 11:08:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping.


12 posted on 08/21/2009 6:49:30 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: Kaslin
"I don't think (the Greenland ice sheet) will be melting by 2030," he said. "That may have been a mistake."

Mistake? When it's intentional it's called a "lie".

13 posted on 08/21/2009 6:50:56 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Fishy rumors posters" Check 'em out:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2311664/posts)
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To: neverdem
I have been an avid follower of the activity on The Sun for more than 6 years, pretty much daily, as well as looking in detail at raw data from earlier years: sunspot data, 10.7 data, SOHO, STEREO -

I have NEVER seen Sol as “quiet”, “featureless”, whatever you wish to label it, as it has been during the past month.I illustrate my point with the following picture, today's "Magnetogram", which reveals the magnetic features on the Sun. Even during the 52-day spotless period last year, I don't recall the magnetogram being as blank as the past week. Usually, there is something or other that is visible even when Sol is spotless. This just looks like a gray plate with a little salt and pepper on it.

About 2 months ago, there were strong thoughts that Sol was “waking up” and Cycle24 would start to pick up. I considered that likely. The last 2 weeks I have gone from questioning what is going on to seriously concerned about the lack of activity. NOT ONE PERSON ALIVE TODAY has been aware of a period of quietude similar to this current minimum. It is increasingly likely every day that goes by with Sun in such a quiet state, that it is more quiet than it has been in several hundred years. It is NOT understood, but such quiet states have been highly correlated with COLD temperatures on Earth.

Sol SHOULD be ramping up in activity right now, and rapidly. Every solar scientist thinks that ought to be true. If it does not do so very soon, there are going to be a whole load of scientists going back to the drawing board to reconsider the data and the hypotheses.

14 posted on 08/21/2009 6:54:56 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys
If it does not do so very soon,

What kind of timeframe are we talking with "very soon" -- a couple of months, a year, two years?

15 posted on 08/21/2009 7:05:46 AM PDT by maryz
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To: AFPhys

My “winter” eczema is almost finally resolved. If Sol keeps snoozin’, I’m afraid my “winter” eczema will become a perennial.


16 posted on 08/21/2009 6:48:46 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: AFPhys
Given the Gramscian takeover of the sciences...

it is interesting to ponder how close the words

"solar scientist"

are

to the word

"socialist".

Cheers!

17 posted on 08/21/2009 8:11:13 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I really should not have stated that “EVERY solar scientist” expects rapid ramping up.

Livingstone and Penn of the NSO have measured that the magnetic field of sunspots has been decreasing. Since sunspots are a result of magnetic field activity, if this continues sunspots could disappear. However their data does not even go back as far as 1990, so there really isn’t any reasonable expectation of what to expect.


18 posted on 08/22/2009 6:47:31 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Kaslin
Gerd Leipold, outgoing executive director of Greenpeace, admitted that his organization emotionalizes issues to influence the public.

So who didn't know this all along?

19 posted on 08/22/2009 12:30:22 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Kaslin

Since global warming involves a belief process, it should be considered a religious doctrine, and as such is forbidden from being the state religion of the federal government.


20 posted on 08/24/2009 4:34:33 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The Kenyan Warlord must fail !!!!!)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

21 posted on 08/24/2009 2:48:26 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Power is not alluring to pure minds." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AFPhys
Ask any old time "Ham" radio operator, which I am one, about sun spot activity over the last 60 years or so. This is the worse I have ever seen it, shutting down High Freq bands from long distance communications. Also, this is the coolest Summer I have experienced in CA in a long time. Last night the low in this area was 48 degrees F. August should have had temps in the 106-110 range and we didn't have them. Very few days over 100, today is only going to hit about 88.

Winter's coming on and I've a hole in my coat!(Johnny Cash)

22 posted on 08/24/2009 3:19:09 PM PDT by calex59
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