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Packing Iron Before the Cameras (NYT Editorial)
New York Times ^ | August 20, 2009

Posted on 08/21/2009 5:05:16 AM PDT by reaganaut1

It is hard to know what is more shocking: the sight of a dozen Americans showing up to flaunt guns outside the venue for President Obama’s speech in Phoenix on Monday, or the fact that the swaggering display was completely legal. We are all familiar with the right to bear arms and the noisome extremes indulged by its zealots. But is there no sense of simple respect due the nation’s elected leader when he ventures forth among the citizenry?

One man strutted through the crowd with an AR-15 semi-automatic assault rifle slung over his shoulder. (That weapon was banned in recent American history until a bipartisan retreat before gun-lobby propaganda.) The man also packed a holstered handgun and completed this war-games ensemble with an ammunition clip in his back pocket. Such lethal parading, he announced, was legal under Arizona law and the public should “get kind of conditioned to it.”

The local police and the Secret Service were aware of the armed protestors and noted that they were kept out of the guarded convention hall where Mr. Obama spoke. That is hardly reassuring, especially this summer when so many protestors seem to consider primal rage a reasoned political statement.

New Hampshire is another “open carry” state. When Mr. Obama held a town hall meeting in Portsmouth on Aug. 11, gun-packing protestors were also there.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banglist; bhotownhalls; guns; handwringers; opencarry
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The gun "flaunters" are not trying to threaten the President but demonstrate that they will defend their rights, politically at first and by other means if necessary.
1 posted on 08/21/2009 5:05:16 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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We are all familiar with the right to bear arms and the noisome extremes indulged by its zealots

Are they joking?????

There are what......11,000 laws which law abiding gun owners must comply with, and we are told that we practice "noisome extremes"?

NYT.....GTH!
2 posted on 08/21/2009 5:07:42 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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“But is there no sense of simple respect due the nation’s elected leader when he ventures forth among the citizenry?”

Gee, this never bothered the NY Slimes during Bush’s tenure.


3 posted on 08/21/2009 5:08:49 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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Never mind the guy in AZ was an Obama/Health Care supporter. Never mind that people are arming in the wake of civil protesters being attacked by pro-Obama union thugs.

This isn't about the right to bear arms, it's about the right to PEACEABLY assemble.

Without the 2nd, there can be no 1st.

4 posted on 08/21/2009 5:09:38 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Brevity: Saying a lot, while saying very little.)
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"But is there no sense of simple respect due the nation’s elected leader when he ventures forth among the citizenry?

In my case there's none for the entire American political class, including the editorial boards of most major newspapers and the electronic media. I have the same antipathy for them that they do for me.

5 posted on 08/21/2009 5:13:49 AM PDT by VR-21 (If it's a vision of the future you want......)
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These fools try to hide the BLACKNESS of the AR-15... and it's owner!


6 posted on 08/21/2009 5:13:56 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. -Arthur C Clarke)
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To: AlphaOneAlpha

Of course, they missed the fact that NH is a “must issue” CCW state.

They should have wondered about how many CCW’s were present, locked, loaded, and ready to rock.

And, yes, I do think that it’s getting to that point.


7 posted on 08/21/2009 5:14:15 AM PDT by benewton
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What about the simple respect that our elected leaders should show towards the individuals that they represent and answer to? I don’t understand this “politician worship” mentality.


8 posted on 08/21/2009 5:18:02 AM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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(That weapon was banned in recent American history until a bipartisan retreat before gun-lobby propaganda.)

Really?

9 posted on 08/21/2009 5:18:12 AM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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But is there no sense of simple respect due the nation’s elected leader when he ventures forth among the citizenry?

There seems none among the elected leaders for the opinions of the citizens.

It seems the only way you can have an opinion is to show up with a gun. If you don't show up with a firearm, then you're just "astroturf" - somebody else's paid shill.

10 posted on 08/21/2009 5:20:26 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Or, #3, that the NYT is incapable of acknowledging that so many gun owners and gun-bearers peaceably assembled, discussed issues, and left with no crimes being committed, not one gun being fired, no one being harmed.

You see, what is shocking to the NYT is not that Americans RESPONSIBLY took advantage of their 2nd Amendment rights ONCE (while the NYT IRRESPONSIBLY takes advantage of their 1st Amendment rights every day), but that these firearms didn’t jump out of their holsters and off the shoulders of their owners and run down the street shooting at people.

You see, the NYT actually believes that it is the object (the firearm) that is guilty of so much “evil” in America, and not the character (and criminality) of those that bear the object.

This idiotic perspective is analogous to people blaming the printing presses at the NYT for the lies of Blair and of the stupid, anti-American drivel that is splattered on their newspaper every day.


11 posted on 08/21/2009 5:20:40 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I want all communists to fail.)
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What's next?" Citizens strolling in helmets and camouflage flak jackets?

...or perhaps helmets and gas masks as the left often does when protesting?

12 posted on 08/21/2009 5:20:40 AM PDT by Roccus (My anger is manufactured.......................................in the WHITE HOUSE and CONGRESS!!)
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“That is hardly reassuring, especially this summer when so many protestors seem to consider primal rage a reasoned political statement.”

What an odd choice of words from the same left Bill Ayers is a part of.


13 posted on 08/21/2009 5:21:08 AM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: reaganaut1

I am currently rereading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and found this remarkable passage in the first para of chap. 3. It’s not the entire para because my typing skills are not that great but the relevant passage is:

“A martial nobility and stubborn commons, possessed of arms, tenacious of property, and collected into constitutional assemblies, form the only balance capable of preserving a free constitution against enterprises of an aspiring prince.”

To me that is a remarkable statement written by an Englishman in a history of the decline of a great empire.


14 posted on 08/21/2009 5:22:06 AM PDT by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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The author is one of those leftist people
who project their own immaturity onto others.

They don’t want others to be entrusted with
the awesome responsibility of carrying the means of self defense
because they know that they themselves could not be trusted with such means.


15 posted on 08/21/2009 5:24:04 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: TNdandelion

The concept of “consent of the governed” comes to mind. I wonder how many of our would-be nobility still understand that concept.


16 posted on 08/21/2009 5:25:23 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: reaganaut1

When’s the last time the NYT lamented the “noisome extremes” of gay pride parade participants?


17 posted on 08/21/2009 5:26:24 AM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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If the politicians don’t stop playing fast and loose with the Constition, the NY Slimes haven’t seen anything yet.


18 posted on 08/21/2009 5:28:15 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Forget going Galt. Its time to go Braveheart.)
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Apparently the NYT is out of touch with the American people:

Poll: Fewer Americans support stricter gun control laws

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/08/gun.control.poll/index.html

Since 2001, most Americans have favored stricter gun laws, though support has slightly dropped in recent years: 54 percent favored stricter laws in 2001, compared with 50 percent in 2007, according to Gallup polling.

Now, a recent poll reveals a sudden drop — only 39 percent of Americans now favor stricter gun laws, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll.


19 posted on 08/21/2009 5:30:35 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: reaganaut1

I know that was just an editorial and all – expressing one’s opinion etc. But does anyone else feel a sense of nostalgia for the days when Journalists actually KNEW about the subject they were talking about?


20 posted on 08/21/2009 5:34:22 AM PDT by GYL2 (Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson)
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